Ukraine War Thread Part 2
US made 70mm unguided rockets used on Ukrainian MI24's
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A limited drone attack on Kyiv overnight, just 10 UAVs all shot down, the main attacks bring again against the grain storage and loading facilities in Odesa.
'Serious damage' at port on Danube river
Russia’s overnight drone strikes caused “serious” damage at the Ukrainian port of Izmail on the Danube river, an industry source told Reuters. Russia stepped up attacks on Ukrainian agricultural and port infrastructure after Moscow refused last month to extend the Black Sea grain deal that had allowed for exports of Ukrainian grain.
'Serious damage' at port on Danube river
Russia’s overnight drone strikes caused “serious” damage at the Ukrainian port of Izmail on the Danube river, an industry source told Reuters. Russia stepped up attacks on Ukrainian agricultural and port infrastructure after Moscow refused last month to extend the Black Sea grain deal that had allowed for exports of Ukrainian grain.
An industrial source also confirmed to Reuters that Izmail was the main target of the attack, describing the level of damage as “serious”.
Russia 'sets fire' to grain storage in Odesa
Russia set fire to some grain storage facilities in Odesa, as it launched an attack on the southern coastal region, Ukrainian officials said.
Russian drones attacked and damaged port and grain storage facilities.
Russia 'sets fire' to grain storage in Odesa
Russia set fire to some grain storage facilities in Odesa, as it launched an attack on the southern coastal region, Ukrainian officials said.
Russian drones attacked and damaged port and grain storage facilities.
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Intrigued to understand how Starlink know what uses the satcom kit is being put to. How can they know if its voice traffic or drone telemetry ? Ukraine mil surely don't speak to Elon about upcoming Ops so this must be coming via the US DoD ? Or is it just a location issue , they are restricted to coms in defined areas and have to ask for different area coverage ?
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I think Musk fears being seen as a 'war monger' or (worse) a 'war profiteer'. Plus he has no long-term interest in pissing off Russia. Musk is a long-term thinker and figures there will eventually be long term peace with Russia.
So he can make a public announcement that he's 'preventing' Starlink's use in the Ukraine war, but since the units provided to Ukraine are not geo-linked, the actual affect is minimal.
Gives Musk 'plausible deniability'.
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This thread has wandered far from aviation and far from the war.
Is all quiet on the Eastern Front?
Is all quiet on the Eastern Front?
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This forum, through the efforts of Nutloose, and a few others keeps the subject at the front of a forum that has a substantial number of followers, usually individuals with a modest or better comprehension of the world situation at this time. There is a considerable number of us that have former military service, and others that have technical knowledge that is applicable to the situation that exists today, insofar as keeping up the noise on our continued support of Ukraine, and all actions to get the RF to reverse their train wreck of a foreign policy, to respect other parties borders. After all, that is what they signed up for by joining the UN in the first place. They want the membership and then $#1t on the obligations.
There are ulterior motives to supporting Ukraine; supporting their boots on the ground stop our boots being left on the field with our own blood and bits inside them, as there is zero in Russias history that suggests that Ukraine is their end game, they are a cancer, led by a CRIMINAL administration. We can either keep the subject in the public domain, as Nutloose is active doing, and give support to that end, or we can complain that much of this thread is peripheral to military aviation.
At this moment in time, Ukraine has requested OPSEC, and if it seems like slow news on military aviation matters, that should be a good thing.
I am conflicted on the publishing of strikes within Ukraine, it provides BDA to the criminals. Same goes for showing the drone imaging of attacks on RF, it is giving some intel away to the criminals. It may be good for keeping up the flames of outrage, but it is otherwise a gift to those trying to work out why some attacks are effective and others are not.
Our international response is of interest to the PRC leader as he weighs up whether the world at large has the fortitude to respond to further land grabs by despots.
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Looks like the Russian Army has suffered a mass-casualty event.
5 Ukrainian HIMARS missiles have struck Russian infantry units gathering at a training camp on Dzharylhach Island in the Kherson region.
100+ Russians are estimated to have been killed.
5 Ukrainian HIMARS missiles have struck Russian infantry units gathering at a training camp on Dzharylhach Island in the Kherson region.
100+ Russians are estimated to have been killed.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
There are battles raging across the front but little bein* reported - Ukraine because of COMSEC as they advance and Russia because of losses and a clampdown by the Kremlin.
With Oryx having retired, so to speak, this guy is a good source to follow. e.g.
Here are the losses I could identify today.
![](https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/774x1722/image_cb3a7b898220ceffacc1150d2f83a8d68b42ebd7.png)
With Oryx having retired, so to speak, this guy is a good source to follow. e.g.
Here are the losses I could identify today.
![](https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/774x1722/image_cb3a7b898220ceffacc1150d2f83a8d68b42ebd7.png)
Do any HIMARS rounds support cluster munitions? These 5 looked like H.E.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Rapid development of new generations of drones isn’t just being limited to the air…
REMOTE CONTROL SEA POWER: Ukraine’s rapidly evolving naval drones threaten Russian warships in the Black Sea. Each iteration is increasingly stealthy, has greater range, and packs more destructive warheads. Their development can be seen below.
![](https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1213x829/image_6670a1b490bcfdfe89c74e590956b1fbe5031fd7.png)
REMOTE CONTROL SEA POWER: Ukraine’s rapidly evolving naval drones threaten Russian warships in the Black Sea. Each iteration is increasingly stealthy, has greater range, and packs more destructive warheads. Their development can be seen below.
![](https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1213x829/image_6670a1b490bcfdfe89c74e590956b1fbe5031fd7.png)
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The occupational administration of Crimea is hiding an attack on a military base in Hvardiiske.
Ru media reported that drones were flying to the airfield, but all were shot down, although there is video confirmation of missile hits. The russians introduced censorship on news about arrivals against the backdrop of mass flight from Crimea after the strike on the Kerch Bridge, reports @evocation_info
![](https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1213x779/image_84ef6bc7accdc4a9234878938e03e6de8416db2e.png)
Ru media reported that drones were flying to the airfield, but all were shot down, although there is video confirmation of missile hits. The russians introduced censorship on news about arrivals against the backdrop of mass flight from Crimea after the strike on the Kerch Bridge, reports @evocation_info
![](https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1213x779/image_84ef6bc7accdc4a9234878938e03e6de8416db2e.png)
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Not very keen on dispersing their assets, are they!
The occupational administration of Crimea is hiding an attack on a military base in Hvardiiske.
Ru media reported that drones were flying to the airfield, but all were shot down, although there is video confirmation of missile hits. The russians introduced censorship on news about arrivals against the backdrop of mass flight from Crimea after the strike on the Kerch Bridge, reports @evocation_info
Ru media reported that drones were flying to the airfield, but all were shot down, although there is video confirmation of missile hits. The russians introduced censorship on news about arrivals against the backdrop of mass flight from Crimea after the strike on the Kerch Bridge, reports @evocation_info
The photo is straight off google earth but is 2023, so, yeah, dispersal seems to not have a high priority at that time. Must say, losing the planes on the ground is a better bit of military aviation than going into Ukraine which is a hornets nest anywhere west of their ramp & revetments. It is an invitation, like Tommy Lee Jones in M.I.B. yelling "EAT ME!" at another cockroach (not Lord Farquard per se)
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Rolling drunk soldiers/sailors/airmen for their cash on hand is a very old story.
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Another fire in Moscow, this time a battery plant, I take it the smoke is sulphur?