Ukraine War Thread Part 2
With Russia effectively declaring war against the food supply of Africa, Asia and China, it might be time for Turkey to back up it's rhetoric or remove butt from porcelain. Positioning Turkish ships into Odesa harbour will take about 20 hours, as part of the FONOPS they have signed up for, and they would be at liberty to have self defence ROE to take out missile threats. NATO, can assist if given access by Turkey through the Bosphorus, it is discretionary by Turkey, at this time. Involvement of mines would be a trigger to defend against Russia, the only bad faith player in the area with offensive mining capabilty.
The invention of the quad bike might not get a patent issue, but it is a nice try for the septagenarian super army that Putin is working on, they will be feared in hospices and retirement homes across the wide steppes of FR. There is room for colostomy bags if the stuff hits the fan. At the pace it travels, it will confuse the lead computation a bit, more like a stationary target, quite confusing.
RuAF training reality simulation is getting impressive. If they added shooting the team member beside you and blowing up your leaders in their dacha miles away from the practice fox holes, it would be great. "on ya Vlad!".
Vlads efforts at removing the little respect that remains for the RF on a world stage are successful, Takes skill to alienate all of your own allies, but, credit where it is due, Vlad, threatening the food security of Africa, Asia and China is a brilliant move, should be added to Dale Carnegies little book on how to win friends...
Instead of trying to made quad bike soldiers, or refurbishing T-34's to "modernise" the RuAF, perhaps these are better investments...
The invention of the quad bike might not get a patent issue, but it is a nice try for the septagenarian super army that Putin is working on, they will be feared in hospices and retirement homes across the wide steppes of FR. There is room for colostomy bags if the stuff hits the fan. At the pace it travels, it will confuse the lead computation a bit, more like a stationary target, quite confusing.
RuAF training reality simulation is getting impressive. If they added shooting the team member beside you and blowing up your leaders in their dacha miles away from the practice fox holes, it would be great. "on ya Vlad!".
Vlads efforts at removing the little respect that remains for the RF on a world stage are successful, Takes skill to alienate all of your own allies, but, credit where it is due, Vlad, threatening the food security of Africa, Asia and China is a brilliant move, should be added to Dale Carnegies little book on how to win friends...
Instead of trying to made quad bike soldiers, or refurbishing T-34's to "modernise" the RuAF, perhaps these are better investments...
"From July 20, all ships sailing in the Black Sea to Ukrainian ports will be considered as potential carriers of military cargo. Countries on the flags of such ships will be considered involved in the Ukrainian conflict on the side of the Kyiv regime," Russian Defense Ministry.
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/stat...82986721222661
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/stat...82986721222661
https://casebook.icrc.org/a_to_z/glossary/blockade#
https://digital-commons.usnwc.edu/cg...8&context=ils#
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journ...2B21DCB66D9428
" The prohibition of the use of force prohibits operations that do not discriminate between ships that contribute to the enemy war effort and those that do not. Therefore, visit and search operations can only be based on specific suspicions against individual ships. Blockades, which are by definition indiscriminate, cannot be enforced outside territorial waters. "
Getting grain shipping close to Ukraine through the Bosphorus and through neutral Bulgarian and Romanian territorial waters would seem OK. Going further than that requires sufficient military overwatch that it probably requires NATO, and a UN resolution, so it won't happen. If a way can be found for Ukraine to run a shuttle and tranship grain in neutral waters that might be a helpful path. But that requires a way of doing the transhipment.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
The interfactional military vs FSB civil war continues to escalate…
Russia opened a criminal case against Colonel of GRU Vladimir Kvachkov, a close Girkin's ally and a member of the "Angry Patriots Club", accusing him of discrediting the Russian Armed Forces.
Russia opened a criminal case against Colonel of GRU Vladimir Kvachkov, a close Girkin's ally and a member of the "Angry Patriots Club", accusing him of discrediting the Russian Armed Forces.
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Apparently Turkey will not cover Ukrainian vessels.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Ukraine’s Ambassador to Poland, @Vasyl_Zvarych, says Poland could be about to decide to send another 20 MiG-29 fighter jets to Ukraine
Polish President Duda has said it could be done but would need US approval as the planes have been upgraded with US tech
Polish President Duda has said it could be done but would need US approval as the planes have been upgraded with US tech
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Russia designing quad riding synthetic soldier also known in the west as the remote controlled old age shopping trolley with a dressed manikin plonked on top.
https://twitter.com/UKikaski/status/1681605543415144449
https://twitter.com/UKikaski/status/1681605543415144449
every missile fired at Ukraine is a criminal act, time to cease and desist with some emphasis on removing the toys from the child in charge. After all, that is what any responsible adult would do, which apparently rules out the UN and most of our governments.
That's a lot of crimes at one time
It distracts the King who has no clothes, who otherwise will draft the designers and engineers into frontline blenders.
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Apparently Turkey will not cover Ukrainian vessels.
https://twitter.com/sentdefender/sta...43049053196289
https://twitter.com/sentdefender/sta...43049053196289
Is that an escalation, depends on your view, but sitting not he sidelines wringing hands hasn't worked well for de-escalation so far.
UN Charter Article 51 "It works both ways, Vlad"
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UN Charter Article 52 "Stopping Vlad is quite within individual UN states to do"
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UN Charter Article 1 "Purpose"
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UN Charter Article 2 "Practices"
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Art 1 means Russia is an aggressor nation. Art 2(5) gives scope of action for all UN states to assist Ukraine, and 2(5) also prohibits aid to the aggressor nation, something that a few UN states seem to have erred over. Art 51 gives the basis for assistance of Ukraine against Russia. None of the above needs the spineless UN to actually get their butts off their polished porcelain thrones, it is a right within the charter, in fact it is an obligation to be compliant with Art 1 - Purpose.
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I see the latest US supplies includes port and harbour security equipment.
[https://www.defense.gov/News/Release...-for-ukraine/]
[https://www.defense.gov/News/Release...-for-ukraine/]
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No wonder China wants the grain deal restarted, if true.
Source: Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s nightly speech
Quote: "This attack proves that their target is not only Ukraine, and not only the lives of our people. About a million tons of food is stored in the ports that were attacked today. This is the volume that should have been delivered to consumer countries in Africa and Asia long ago.
The port terminal that suffered the most from the Russian terror last night had 60,000 tons of agricultural products stored in it, which were intended to be shipped to China. That is, everyone is affected by this Russian terror."Background:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/19/7412066/
Russia’s demands to restart it.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/19/7412070/
Never going to happen is it?
60,000 tonnes of agricultural products destroyed by Russian missiles were to be sent to China – Zelenskyy
60,000 tonnes of agricultural products destroyed by Russia's missile strikes on Odesa Oblast on the night of 18-19 July were to be delivered to China.Source: Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s nightly speech
Quote: "This attack proves that their target is not only Ukraine, and not only the lives of our people. About a million tons of food is stored in the ports that were attacked today. This is the volume that should have been delivered to consumer countries in Africa and Asia long ago.
The port terminal that suffered the most from the Russian terror last night had 60,000 tons of agricultural products stored in it, which were intended to be shipped to China. That is, everyone is affected by this Russian terror."Background:
- As a result of Russian attacks on infrastructure facilities in Odesa Oblast, 60,000 tonnes of grain were destroyed in the port of Chornomorsk.
Russia’s demands to restart it.
Source: Russian President Vladimir Putin, quoted by Russian news outlets
Details: Putin has claimed that Russia has "shown miracles of restraint and tolerance by extending the Black Sea Grain Initiative".
"At the same time, no one was going to fulfil any obligations and agreements on the grain deal; they only constantly demanded something from the Russian Federation. The West did everything to derail the grain deal, sparing no effort," Putin said.He has also said that the Black Sea Grain Initiative supposedly led to direct losses of US$1.2 billion for Russian farmers.
Quote from Putin: "Our country is able to replace Ukrainian grain, both on a commercial and free basis. Moreover, we are expecting a record harvest again this year. The extension of the grain deal as it existed has lost all meaning.
That is why we opposed its further extension. We are not against the deal itself. And we will consider coming back to it, but on one condition: if all the principles of Russia's participation in the agreement are fully taken into account and, most importantly, implemented."
More details: Among the conditions Putin has voiced were the lifting of sanctions on Russian grain and fertiliser supplies to world markets, the connection of banks to SWIFT, and the end of "all restrictions".
"We do not need any promises or ideas; we need these conditions to be fulfilled," Putin added.
He has also named the resumption of supplies of spare parts for agricultural machinery and "resolving the issue of freight and insurance for Russian ships" among the conditions.
In addition, Putin has said that the Tolyatti-Odesa ammonia pipeline "should be restored". He has added that "Russian assets related to agriculture" should be unblocked. Putin has claimed that these conditions are set out in Russia's Memorandum with the UN.
"If all these conditions are fulfilled, we will immediately come back to this agreement," Putin said.
Putin reveals "conditions" of Russia coming back to Black Sea Grain Initiative
Russia will "consider the possibility" of coming back to the Black Sea Grain Initiative only if its terms are fully implemented.Source: Russian President Vladimir Putin, quoted by Russian news outlets
Details: Putin has claimed that Russia has "shown miracles of restraint and tolerance by extending the Black Sea Grain Initiative".
"At the same time, no one was going to fulfil any obligations and agreements on the grain deal; they only constantly demanded something from the Russian Federation. The West did everything to derail the grain deal, sparing no effort," Putin said.He has also said that the Black Sea Grain Initiative supposedly led to direct losses of US$1.2 billion for Russian farmers.
Quote from Putin: "Our country is able to replace Ukrainian grain, both on a commercial and free basis. Moreover, we are expecting a record harvest again this year. The extension of the grain deal as it existed has lost all meaning.
That is why we opposed its further extension. We are not against the deal itself. And we will consider coming back to it, but on one condition: if all the principles of Russia's participation in the agreement are fully taken into account and, most importantly, implemented."
More details: Among the conditions Putin has voiced were the lifting of sanctions on Russian grain and fertiliser supplies to world markets, the connection of banks to SWIFT, and the end of "all restrictions".
"We do not need any promises or ideas; we need these conditions to be fulfilled," Putin added.
He has also named the resumption of supplies of spare parts for agricultural machinery and "resolving the issue of freight and insurance for Russian ships" among the conditions.
In addition, Putin has said that the Tolyatti-Odesa ammonia pipeline "should be restored". He has added that "Russian assets related to agriculture" should be unblocked. Putin has claimed that these conditions are set out in Russia's Memorandum with the UN.
"If all these conditions are fulfilled, we will immediately come back to this agreement," Putin said.
Never going to happen is it?
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Russia is still pushing Crimea as a holiday resort to the punters at home.
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Russias latest crime.
Shades of Raiders of the Lost Arc.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/19/7412010/
Shades of Raiders of the Lost Arc.
Russian archaeologists and collaborators are excavating in the occupied Crimea at the site of the ancient Greek city of Chersonesos, looking for "evidence" of its belonging to Russia.
Source: National Resistance Center
Quote: "Excavations of a Ukrainian monument of national importance on the site of the ancient Greek city of Chersonesos are underway on the temporarily occupied Crimean peninsula.
Russian archaeologists and local collaborators are carrying out excavations under the supervision of the military. The main task facing the robbers of the historical monument is to prove the "belonging of the city to the Russian Federation."
Details: The Center adds that the occupiers want to prove that Chersonesos was actually inhabited by Slavs and was called the city of Korsun.
In the future, as the centre assumes, Russian propaganda will "draw a line" to Kyivan Rus, whose heir it considers itself. This will allegedly allow the occupiers not only to "justify their right to the peninsula" but also to level the history of the Crimean Tatars as "an insignificant stage in the history of Crimea".
Russian historians can resort to the deliberate destruction of Greek heritage in that area. The Center reports that many artefacts are being exported to the Russian Federation, and systematic looting and destruction of monuments are ongoing.
Source: National Resistance Center
Quote: "Excavations of a Ukrainian monument of national importance on the site of the ancient Greek city of Chersonesos are underway on the temporarily occupied Crimean peninsula.
Russian archaeologists and local collaborators are carrying out excavations under the supervision of the military. The main task facing the robbers of the historical monument is to prove the "belonging of the city to the Russian Federation."
Details: The Center adds that the occupiers want to prove that Chersonesos was actually inhabited by Slavs and was called the city of Korsun.
In the future, as the centre assumes, Russian propaganda will "draw a line" to Kyivan Rus, whose heir it considers itself. This will allegedly allow the occupiers not only to "justify their right to the peninsula" but also to level the history of the Crimean Tatars as "an insignificant stage in the history of Crimea".
Russian historians can resort to the deliberate destruction of Greek heritage in that area. The Center reports that many artefacts are being exported to the Russian Federation, and systematic looting and destruction of monuments are ongoing.
No wonder China wants the grain deal restarted, if true.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/19/7412066/
Russia’s demands to restart it.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/19/7412070/
Never going to happen is it?
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/19/7412066/
Russia’s demands to restart it.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/19/7412070/
Never going to happen is it?
Feed 45 UN states? Not a bad win for China, who needs the same food supply too.
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Partial reopening of the Kerch bridge though traffic flows are a pittance.
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Something to think about: during the Cold War, one of the assessed strategies of the Soviet Navy was offensive maritime mining operations. Basically, send a sub, or a few, loaded with mines to areas near an important port (of some nation) and put a bunch of mines down, then sub stays well out of territorial waters. .
Wait for the first ship (neutral or nation's ship) one to blow up a mine and see how cautious the {nation} gets.
I can see an op like that off of Odessa being already a part of a Russian Navy contingency plan.
Something to think about: during the Cold War, one of the assessed strategies of the Soviet Navy was offensive maritime mining operations. Basically, send a sub, or a few, loaded with mines to areas near an important port (of some nation) and put a bunch of mines down, then sub stays well out of territorial waters. .
Wait for the first ship (neutral or nation's ship) one to blow up a mine and see how cautious the {nation} gets.
I can see an op like that off of Odessa being already a part of a Russian Navy contingency plan.
"We received intelligence that the Russian Navy had laid sea mines on the approaches to Ukrainian ports with the aim of sinking commercial ships and blaming Ukraine", - US National Security Council spokesman Adam Hodge
you seem to be spot on, Lonewolf. Bloody Russkies, they never change.
"We received intelligence that the Russian Navy had laid sea mines on the approaches to Ukrainian ports with the aim of sinking commercial ships and blaming Ukraine", - US National Security Council spokesman Adam Hodge
https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/...19251005702145
"We received intelligence that the Russian Navy had laid sea mines on the approaches to Ukrainian ports with the aim of sinking commercial ships and blaming Ukraine", - US National Security Council spokesman Adam Hodge
https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/...19251005702145
"The war in Ukraine will have demonstrated the impotence of the United Nations if a permanent member of the Security Council with full veto power becomes a rogue state without consequence. For the havoc it created, Russia must now be evicted from the UN.
This is how.........
China is the only country in the Security Council that might veto sending a vote on expelling Russia to the General Assembly. If we want Russia to be appropriately punished, China must be offered a deal: "
I'm guessing that China - just like Turkey - might want a lot of sweeteners.
https://thehill.com/opinion/internat...a-from-the-un/
India would be the next in line for the SC. Something China might not want to happen. What is better than a broken friend like Russia with all the reefs and claims issues brewing?