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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 27th Feb 2022, 19:35
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 19:36
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Originally Posted by Flyhighfirst
Yet Roman Abromovich refuses to even mention the Russian invasion in his press conferences. Seize his assets put him on a commercial flight and be rid of!
RA's private jet was seen departing Nice (he was likely staying on his superyacht in Monaco) on Friday and it flew to Moscow........rumour was Vlad the Mad summoned all his Oligarch cronies for a conference.
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BREAKING: Kosovo asks the US for a permanent military base and requests NATO membership
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 19:39
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UNITED NATIONS, Feb 27 (Reuters) - The United Nations Security Council on Sunday called for a rare emergency special session of the 193-member General Assembly on Russia's invasion of Ukraine, which will be held on Monday, as western allies step up a diplomatic campaign to isolate Moscow.

The vote by the 15-member council was procedural so Russia could not wield its veto. A resolution convening the General Assembly session was adopted with 11 yes votes. Russia voted no, while China, India and the United Arab Emirates abstained.

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This will be only the 11th emergency session of the UN General Assembly in the history of the UN.
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 19:44
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A ray of hope … thanks, ORAC.
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 19:46
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Today Georgian men refused to provide Russian ship with fuel and when asked what should Russians do without fuel - their answer was "use the paddles instead»
And a bit of optimism for tonight. Near Zaporizhzhia paratroopers deployed to the forest using old maps. But the forest was illegally cut down and there was nothing there. Paratroopers captured immediately


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Old 27th Feb 2022, 19:47
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Sweden to send 5000 anti-tank weapons to Ukraine, along with helmets and other protective equipment - Swedish PM.

Sweden is breaking a long-standing policy of not sending arms to countries engaged in military conflict. First time this kind of support has been offered since Sweden supported Finland against the Soviets in 1939.

Of note in this context: Sweden is ‘alliance-free’, i.e. it is not part of Nato, but it no longer describes itself as ‘neutral’.
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 19:47
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We need to be careful - Putin needs to be provided with a way out of this nightmare that allows him to save face.
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 19:56
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It seems that some nice pieces of kit from the eastern european air forces will have ŕ second life. But not against the enemy they were built for!
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 19:58
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Originally Posted by Fonsini
We need to be careful - Putin needs to be provided with a way out of this nightmare that allows him to save face.
A very good point, but any Exit Strategy would damage his cherished reputation. A simple return to the status quo ante isn’t going to fit his mindset … he will need something in return. A pledge that UA will never join NATO? Fair enough … that can be abrogated at the drop of a hat, just like the Minsk Agreement. He’s already on the back foot … what would anyone offer him to just go back to the ORIGINAL borders (yes, including Crimea)? And that will be a difficult debate.
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 19:58
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Originally Posted by RAFEngO74to09
tweet of EU sending FJ
The Ukrainian government has asked for FJ's they are able to use. Which EU countries still have stocks of old Soviet FJ's in full combat ready state....

https://www.barrons.com/articles/eu-...ll-01645994409
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 19:59
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Originally Posted by Fonsini
We need to be careful - Putin needs to be provided with a way out of this nightmare that allows him to save face.
Indeed! This should not be completely ignored. Revenge has rarely done any good in history. However tempting it may be.
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 20:00
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Originally Posted by Beamr
The Ukrainian government has asked for FJ's they are able to use. Which EU countries still have stocks of old Soviet FJ's in full combat ready state....

https://www.barrons.com/articles/eu-...ll-01645994409
Poland?! MiG29s
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 20:01
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Originally Posted by Fonsini
We need to be careful - Putin needs to be provided with a way out of this nightmare that allows him to save face.
Save face? As several have said, Putin has crossed the Rubicon, there’s no face to be saved. He will perhaps be made accountable in this life, and most certainly in the next.

We need to provide a way for Ukraine to prevail. We have no need to provide Putin anything.
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 20:05
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This is all going pear shaped for Putin, if one of his underlings doesn’t put a bullet in the back of his head this could all turn ugly. Lukashenko might see the writing on the wall here too.
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 20:16
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EU supplied aircraft will most likely be MiG-29 and Su-25 from Poland and Bulgaria where they're being phased out
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 20:19
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Also known as the 'inside-out bomb"
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 20:22
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Originally Posted by Una Due Tfc
This is all going pear shaped for Putin, if one of his underlings doesn’t put a bullet in the back of his head this could all turn ugly. Lukashenko might see the writing on the wall here too.
I have a strong feeling that if Putin decides to use nukes, there will be an immediate coup and we'll never hear from Vlad again. Granted, that might happen even if Vlad doesn't try to play the nuke card since this is turning into an unmitigated disaster for Russia..
I'm also praying that I'm right...
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