Is Ukraine about to have a war?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Zagreb_Tu-141_crash

To be fair, one of those things also flew over NATO territory recently, and was not shot down:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Zagreb_Tu-141_crash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Zagreb_Tu-141_crash
We can pick up as many peace time examples as we like (Zagreb, Matthias Rust, Kortrijk crash, lake Inari etc) but those were not across a front and all of those were tracked on radar and many intercepted/escorted. But this is not the case with the Engel strike.
To compare with the Engel strike: I trust the air defence in NATO countries would be in a more alert posture if there was an actual war they were involved in and missiles would be coming in from the opposite side, especially if it would be something slowish flying 900km/h for over 600km in essence good 40min in hostile airspace. We are not talking of hypersonic wunderwaffe here.

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Zelensky visiting the wounded soldiers in hospital and handing out awards, the third one is an English speaking guy, (Derek?) nice to see Zelensky addressing him in English and by his name too.

Zelensky visiting the wounded soldiers in hospital and handing out awards, the third one is an English speaking guy, (Derek?) nice to see Zelensky addressing him in English and by his name too.
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Not many of our leaders act with the dignity, courage, leadership that Zelenskyy exhibits every day. The Baltic countries seem to be bestowed with some fine leaders at present, but for our own, and the rest of the UN, what on earth did we all do to deserve such a lack of fortitude? Here is a true leader, and war fighters prepared to defend their country against blatant aggression by a brutal neighbour, and we continue to vacillate on giving them the tools to defend themselves. Ukrainians are dying because of our leaders lack of moral fortitude, and our concerns on the price of a gallon of gas. As a consequence of the half hearted response that has been given, more Russian cannon fodder will also be turned into fertiliser.

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Bomb disposal visiting Chernobaivka, you can see the captured Russian Hind that the guy was swinging on the rotors of, and also the recaptured Ukrainian Mil-17 that looks like it has been used as a spares ship.

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yes but Engels is a long way from that border - in the 80's the whole of Russia was at risk - now they clearly think its only the areas close to the Ukraine - WRONG

What puzzles me (but I may have missed it) is any certainty that these attacks originated from Ukraine territory. Perhaps, like a few other recent "bangs" in Russia it was an "inside" job?

Well, we've seen photos of the old Soviet Strizh 75 kg warhead drones that Ukraine have repurposed and used on the airfields (which an astonished Russia has recognized), and we've seen the clever boat drones that they used to disturb the fleet in Sebastopol, so how about a quick one-two combo on VP's bridge project? Perhaps they are waiting for the first fuel train to make a tentative crossing. And perhaps the locomotive/engine drivers should be wearing paraglider packs.
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Hmmm, but one thing, WTF has it to do with the US what they donate?

I share your suspicion that this was either an inside job, perhaps an attack by an anti-Putin faction, or even Ukrainian SF working deep inside Russia. Too much just doesn't add up to convince me 100% that this was a Ukrainian missile attack. Putin also has a great deal to gain, in terms of internal Russian propaganda, by arranging some minor damage deep inside Russia as a way to keep up the pretence that Ukraine and NATO present a real threat on Russian territory.
I'm convinced the fog of war has firmly settled around some of the attacks well within Russian territory.

Hmmm, but one thing, WTF has it to do with the US what they donate?
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/stat...46080151216129
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/stat...46080151216129

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Lots of variants though, the Spanish ones didn't get sent becuse they needed a lot of work to recommission them, I think they were Leo 2-4's where as they are now up to -7 or 8's?


Hmmm, but one thing, WTF has it to do with the US what they donate?
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/stat...46080151216129
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/stat...46080151216129

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A lot of people keep mentioning giving them F16’s, so I thought I would link a Mig 29 Verses F16 combat training comparison
https://theaviationgeekclub.com/f-16...he-first-time/
https://theaviationgeekclub.com/f-16...he-first-time/

I'll correct myself a bit, as the question is more regards the Leo 1 which has been offered by Rheinmetall to Ukraine and of which there are existing stocks for sale waiting with Bundeswehr.
The Leo 1 has more to do with US manufactured parts as it had a Cadillac-Gage stabilization system for the main gun.
The Leo 2 is more or less European build except for eg the Trophy system which is of Israeli origin. But that wouldn't concern the US.
I believe our friends across the pond are saying it's quite ok to deliver the Leo 1's to Ukraine on their behalf.
The Leo 1 has more to do with US manufactured parts as it had a Cadillac-Gage stabilization system for the main gun.
The Leo 2 is more or less European build except for eg the Trophy system which is of Israeli origin. But that wouldn't concern the US.
I believe our friends across the pond are saying it's quite ok to deliver the Leo 1's to Ukraine on their behalf.

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Putins wittering on about nukes again but appears to be indicating they would be only used in response to a strike if the subtitles are correct.
