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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 1st Oct 2022, 19:19
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The only allies Putler has left are yelling "nuke 'em!"


Reuters: Chechen leader Kadyrov says Russia should use low-yield nuclear weapon after new defeat in Ukraine

...Kadyrov slammed top commanders for their failings and wrote on Telegram: “In my personal opinion, more drastic measures should be taken, right up to the declaration of martial law in the border areas and the use of low-yield nuclear weapons”.

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Old 1st Oct 2022, 20:57
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Why that damned bridge needs to go.

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Old 1st Oct 2022, 21:14
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Suspect sea mine booby trap next to track.

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Old 1st Oct 2022, 21:53
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
There is no rational reason to not striking the rail bridge. It has gone past its expiry date
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Suspect sea mine booby trap next to track.



https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status...13632991776768
that's worth a PGM or a drone hand grenade at the very least.
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Old 1st Oct 2022, 22:16
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Originally Posted by Beamr
The only allies Putler has left are yelling "nuke 'em!"


Reuters: Chechen leader Kadyrov says Russia should use low-yield nuclear weapon after new defeat in Ukraine

...Kadyrov slammed top commanders for their failings and wrote on Telegram: “In my personal opinion, more drastic measures should be taken, right up to the declaration of martial law in the border areas and the use of low-yield nuclear weapons”.

So if Kadyrov is promoting the use of low yield nuclear weapons due to Russia losing ground in conventional warfare, perhaps the west should offer to equip Ukraine forces with a similar low yield capability, only for use after a first strike from Russia and only against true and verified Russian military targets on the Russian side of the border. I agree this would look like nuclear escalation but cluld also me seen as a minor MAD policy.
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Disclaimer: My opinion is miliarily and politicaly uninformed so feel free to shoot me down.
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Old 1st Oct 2022, 22:38
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There is no rational reason to not striking the rail bridge. It has gone past its expiry date
Those tanks are going to the Ukrainians, it's just part of the ongoing transfer of equipment from the Russians



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Old 2nd Oct 2022, 00:51
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Those tanks as you call it are taking innocent Ukrainian lives and is not a laughing matter.
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Old 2nd Oct 2022, 02:37
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Those tanks as you call it are taking innocent Ukrainian lives and is not a laughing matter.
Hopefully they can be taken out before deployment.
If the Russians’ big plan is to strike north or east from Crimea…good way to telegraph their brilliant plan by sending those tanks together across the causeway/bridge in daylight. They they have to support them. Logistics may be difficult.
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Old 2nd Oct 2022, 04:31
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Those tanks as you call it are taking innocent Ukrainian lives and is not a laughing matter.
The Ukrainians have maintained high morale throughout this evil act of Russia, and part of that has been from their sense of humor. The only part of the comment by 627 that would be annoying is that it wasn't a Ukrainian that thought it up. There is additionally a lot of truth in the observation; Russia could simplify a lot of their processes by just handing their equipment over to Ukraine, and shooting 1:4 of their troops, and taking off a limb of the remainder.

Dropping the rail bridge is still a worthwhile use of a PGM, as really, Ukraine has more Russian equipment than they really need at this time. Now, if Germany would hand over some Leopards, they would make room for those though. Kerch has been in range for months, and Ukraine knows how to drop the spans.
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Old 2nd Oct 2022, 04:45
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Originally Posted by albatross
Hopefully they can be taken out before deployment.
If the Russians’ big plan is to strike north or east from Crimea…good way to telegraph their brilliant plan by sending those tanks together across the causeway/bridge in daylight. They they have to support them. Logistics may be difficult.
So Ukraine expect a large counter-attack from the south/Odessa. Would it not be a good idea to let those forces in then shut the door behind them? Take the bridge out once they're in place no logistics trail and all those tanks/men become useless very quickly.
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Old 2nd Oct 2022, 06:50
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
120 tanks?
I count 24?
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Old 2nd Oct 2022, 08:49
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Originally Posted by peter we
120 tanks?
I count 24?
A lot of people count APCs as tanks ... because they have no grasp of military detail.
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Old 2nd Oct 2022, 10:11
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Originally Posted by peter we
120 tanks?
I count 24?
TBH I can't see even 24 tanks there. First two look a lot like Strela-10 SAM's, third a MT-LB with probably a ZU23-2 AA-gun mounted on top, then 10ish BMP IFVs following another 10ish MBT's (hard to tell from poor quality video but T72 or T80) and the rest as far as that video and eye can see are KAMAZ and ZIL trucks.
There is roughly half a mechanized BTG worth of fighting vehicles there that can be seen.
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Old 2nd Oct 2022, 11:24
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let all that military equipment in, they don't have anyone to operate them, once in can't be used anywhere else and they don't get them back. We need to leave the bridge up for the time being, so that the russians can run away.lol
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Old 2nd Oct 2022, 12:29
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
The problem is that the bridge is about 250km from Ukrainian controlled territory. Not sure Ukraine has anything that could hit it from that range. I'm guessing not, otherwise they would have hit it already. Ukraine has asked for ATACMS, which would have the range, but as far as I know the US has refused so far.
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Old 2nd Oct 2022, 12:29
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Originally Posted by Xeptu
let all that military equipment in, they don't have anyone to operate them, once in can't be used anywhere else and they don't get them back. We need to leave the bridge up for the time being, so that the russians can run away.lol
One must admire the tactics and planning of the Ukrainians as well as their bravery. I think they know exactly what they're doing in letting the bridge remain but keep their plans to themselves -- including security in the field. No flocks of hand-flapping reporters breathlessly announcing latest moves and speculating what will happen next, much of what we know comes from fighters on both sides using social media which they really shouldn't. Best for the Russians to receive one unpleasant surprise after another.
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Russians reporting UKR breakthrough on the Kherson front.

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They appear to be at a loss why Lyman fell


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Old 2nd Oct 2022, 13:04
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Originally Posted by MikeSnow
The problem is that the bridge is about 250km from Ukrainian controlled territory. Not sure Ukraine has anything that could hit it from that range. I'm guessing not, otherwise they would have hit it already. Ukraine has asked for ATACMS, which would have the range, but as far as I know the US has refused so far.

hmmm. how do you get a 70km missile to hit a target 250km away????
Rubik's cube is more difficult. Apollo 13 CO2 scrubbers was more demanding....
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