Ukraine Crisis 2014
Stick to the issues Melm.....this is about the Ukraine, Obama, Putin.....not Nixon, Reagan, or the Bush's.
I am, of course, referring to their relations with Native Americans, rather than the British.
It was on the back of broken treaties with the Indians that the United States as we know it today largely came into being...some would say.
Trail of Broken Treaties 20-Point Position Paper - An Indian Manifesto
Do keep up racedo.
It was on the back of broken treaties with the Indians that the United States as we know it today largely came into being...some would say.
Trail of Broken Treaties 20-Point Position Paper - An Indian Manifesto
Do keep up racedo.
Or the War of 1812....where we had to show them the door a second time with help from those Indian fellers and some Pirates down New Orleans way.
And as a sovereign independent nation that had been invaded by a bullying former colonial master, you had every right to fight us and kick us out (and for a second time, as you helpfully reminded me).
I hope the similarity with Ukraine and Russia today isn't lost on you, but I suspect it is.
Ps, apologies for burning the White House down...
I hope the similarity with Ukraine and Russia today isn't lost on you, but I suspect it is.
Ps, apologies for burning the White House down...
The Ukraine People are quite free to repel any invading force.....just as we did. If we had different leadership....perhaps we would be more inclined to give them assistance and stand with them.
We don't....they are on their own.
Our guy was so concerned he skipped the NSC Meeting on the Situation. Probably had a Tee Time that conflicted with the Meeting and one must maintain priorities.
We don't....they are on their own.
Our guy was so concerned he skipped the NSC Meeting on the Situation. Probably had a Tee Time that conflicted with the Meeting and one must maintain priorities.
Like I said, I haven't been too impressed with Obama's response to this crisis either (though my disappointment is based on his actions [or lack of] as opposed to any ideological position I might have with regard to his presidency).
I guess the difference is that I don't think it's ok to ignore your treaty obligations, but hey ho.
I guess the difference is that I don't think it's ok to ignore your treaty obligations, but hey ho.
Obama? Show some moral leadership as the President of the United States and spell out some of the consequences he keeps referring to.
Perhaps then he might want to implement some of these consequences (I'm assuming they will be political and economic, rather than military), should Putin persist.
That would be a start...
Perhaps then he might want to implement some of these consequences (I'm assuming they will be political and economic, rather than military), should Putin persist.
That would be a start...
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
South Georgia, now Ukraine. The fear in eastern Europe is, where next?
In particular in Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia - all of which have similarly large ethnic Russian populations and disputes concerning their rights and pleas on their behalf to "Mother Russia". All also now EU and NATO members looking fearfully over their shoulders and wondering if the rest will stand by them.
Will we, if push comes to shove?
UNSC, EU, NATO to hold urgent meetings over Ukraine
.......Meanwhile, Lithuania and Latvia called upon the North Atlantic Council, the decision-making body of NATO, to hold an extraordinary session on Ukraine, citing security concerns.
"Russia must respect Ukraine's sovereignty, territorial integrity and borders, including the movement of Russian forces in Ukraine," said Secretary General of NATO Anders Fogh Rasmussen on his official Twitter account. Rasmussen also voiced an "urgent need" for de-escalation in Crimea, highlighting that "NATO allies continue to coordinate closely.".............
Lithuania To Invoke NATO Treaty On Ukraine
Lithuania’s FM Linkevicius has said Russia’s decision to deploy forces in Ukraine means “Nato, art. 4 becomes valid,” referring to article 4 of the Nato treaty, EUObserver.com reported.The article says Nato members must meet for consultations if “the territorial integrity, political independence or security of any of the parties is threatened.”
In particular in Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia - all of which have similarly large ethnic Russian populations and disputes concerning their rights and pleas on their behalf to "Mother Russia". All also now EU and NATO members looking fearfully over their shoulders and wondering if the rest will stand by them.
Will we, if push comes to shove?
UNSC, EU, NATO to hold urgent meetings over Ukraine
.......Meanwhile, Lithuania and Latvia called upon the North Atlantic Council, the decision-making body of NATO, to hold an extraordinary session on Ukraine, citing security concerns.
"Russia must respect Ukraine's sovereignty, territorial integrity and borders, including the movement of Russian forces in Ukraine," said Secretary General of NATO Anders Fogh Rasmussen on his official Twitter account. Rasmussen also voiced an "urgent need" for de-escalation in Crimea, highlighting that "NATO allies continue to coordinate closely.".............
Lithuania To Invoke NATO Treaty On Ukraine
Lithuania’s FM Linkevicius has said Russia’s decision to deploy forces in Ukraine means “Nato, art. 4 becomes valid,” referring to article 4 of the Nato treaty, EUObserver.com reported.The article says Nato members must meet for consultations if “the territorial integrity, political independence or security of any of the parties is threatened.”
Far be it from a non Obama voter to defend him, but...
Just because you haven't heard about it doesn't mean it hasn't happened. If as reports say he had a come to Jesus talk with Putin, that would seem to be a better venue a few days into the situation to cajole, infer or downright threaten actions.
Just because you haven't heard about it doesn't mean it hasn't happened. If as reports say he had a come to Jesus talk with Putin, that would seem to be a better venue a few days into the situation to cajole, infer or downright threaten actions.
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Looks like Obama's all about talk and no action.
Looks like Obama's all about talk and no action.
If as reports say he had a come to Jesus talk with Putin,
The Helmet Headed, girlie bike riding Basket Ball player who cannot hit a basket, former Community Organizer is going to intimidate a former LtCol in the KGB?
Now by golly....that is funny no matter who you are!
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Exactly what do SASLess, sitigeltfel,ORAC etc want Obama to do?
From the tone of their posts it sounds like threatening military action is their thing.....
Is the USA ready to go to war for Ukraine? yes or no?
Is the USA willing to risk going to war for Ukraine? yes or no?
If the answer to the above is no then all that is left is talking and sanctions
From the tone of their posts it sounds like threatening military action is their thing.....
Is the USA ready to go to war for Ukraine? yes or no?
Is the USA willing to risk going to war for Ukraine? yes or no?
If the answer to the above is no then all that is left is talking and sanctions