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Old 5th Jul 2016, 17:11
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Originally Posted by High Energy
Send me a PM and I'll answer your questions. No problem.
Hey, High Energy !

I sent you the email. Looking forward to hear from you !

Thanks !
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Old 9th Jul 2016, 03:27
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Hello everyone,
I have just completed my video interview. I had only one question "tell me about yourself" . Is it the normal interview? I saw that some of you had 3 questions?
Thank you for your help
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Old 9th Jul 2016, 07:37
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Interesting.. They asked me 3 questions during the video interview. Why you, why flydubai and tell us about yourself.. Im going next week for the assessment day in Istanbul. They informed me it should be a simulator and technical interview. Is there anybody who did the assessment in Istanbul and could provide information regarding the technical interview?
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Old 9th Jul 2016, 10:52
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While you are in Istanbul for the interview , ask them what has happened in Rostov on Don where they have crashed an Aircraft Killing more than 60 people and what has been done since then in the company to avoid it in the future ?
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Old 9th Jul 2016, 18:29
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Also ask how many pilots have quit just in 2016. Ask if the company even cares how many have quit.....
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Old 11th Jul 2016, 13:59
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what are the chances of going DEC from FZ to EK? Has it ever been done?
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Old 11th Jul 2016, 23:38
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Does anyone have up to date informations about the 3 days assessment in Dubai?
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Old 12th Jul 2016, 00:13
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Matr check ur pm
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 08:49
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wanted to thank some of the members of this group who have helped me. I have been accepted and offered a class date with FlyDubai in fall 2016. I am super excited on my career opportunity. I would like some assistance if possible as to what to expect in training and how i can prep myself for the training program as I am coming from the regionals in the USA. Appreciate any feedback. Thank you fellow aviators.
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 20:30
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Here is the best advise: DONT WORK FOR THIS AIRLINE.

Even after a hull loss, even after reading things are only getting worse, after being told about 20% of the pilot group has resigned in the last 8 months......you still think this is a good option.

I give up.
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Old 15th Jul 2016, 17:49
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LostinT2dxb There are two things in this world you'll never find;

1 - a perfect wife

2 - a good airline to work for on PPRune.

Every arline i visit on pprune pilots are SCREAMING donot work here!!! so where exactly should us up and coming pilots work? I have friends who work for EK FZ qatar and ethiad and are all happy and content with their lives. Id never come on here to take advice on where to work from people ive never met. Id prefer to ask someone who has a similar background to myself to hear their POV. This thread is about flight deck positions for FZ. Quite frankly half of you guys on here are quite spoiled to be completely honest. You complain about flying 85 hour rosters for 9k a month plus housing and subsidies for your kids education while being shuttled to work and being fed, You have forgotten about the rest of us in the real work flying 90 to 100 hours a month making 3 grand a month after taxes with no allowances.

You have forgotten about the rest of us who fly Piston engine aircrafts for 15 sectors a day with no lunch breaks.

You have forgotten about us who fly for commuter airlines who's turbo prop engines fail once a month

You have forgotten about the instructors who train students who couldnt land a 152 on a 12000 foot runway trying to get to that ATP

You have forgotten about the guys who are out of work and have a family to feed.

Almost every major airline has experienced hull loss.
If i read you the new terms United sent out to its workers 2 weeks ago with regards to FDP's that my buddy working their emailed me im sure you'd go on your little rant over on the united website also.

Dont forget where you came from and what you had to do to get there. Others will do what they have to do until they can do better.

If they go to FZ, BA, AA, or EK and they donot like it.. they leave, its that simple. Quit acting like because YOU say donot go to this airline means People wont. THEY DONOT KNOW YOU.

The last airline i flew with there were people just like you saying the exact same things. It was the absolute opposite. The airline was well organised, Everything ran smoothly. Request were always granted speedily and without any hassles. experiences differ based on who you are as an individual, your path and your background.

That being said whoever goes to FZ i wish you guys nothing but success. Make the best of it and always remember things can always be worse. If it becomes unbearable, donot sacrifice your safety or integrity, Leave. YOU HAVE A CHOICE. Donot complain about it on here make a change, Only you can control you.

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Old 15th Jul 2016, 18:27
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Bravo ifly462!!
Your post should be framed and put on the front page of pprune.
Take care.
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Old 15th Jul 2016, 18:51
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Thanks ifly462!

Inherently it's easier and more socially acceptable to put someone down or talk bad about the (any) airline. It's hard to stand up and put some perspective on things. Talking positive is a big no no.

I've worked for a major and I've lost my job at another legacy, had no money to feed the family and no future prospects due to a 'useless' typerating. Been there, done that. Dark times.

Now I make loads of money in the left seat, fly an awesome plane and have a great set of collegues. I'm not tired (yes you can re-read that again!) and see my family every day. I've got no desire to leave. I do love it here. It works for me and my family. If it doesn't work for 'you' personally then just leave. No shame in doing so and no pride lost. No company is perfect and flydubai is no exception. But it works for me. I do see several areas for improvement (I'm not blind nor stupid) but I've got no control over those and the higher powers don't want to change it. I know that and willingly accept that. If I didn't I'd leave.

Just my 0.02c. Read to be shot down as usual.
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Old 16th Jul 2016, 12:58
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Originally Posted by PilotD12
Interesting.. They asked me 3 questions during the video interview. Why you, why flydubai and tell us about yourself.. Im going next week for the assessment day in Istanbul. They informed me it should be a simulator and technical interview. Is there anybody who did the assessment in Istanbul and could provide information regarding the technical interview?
Cheers
Hi PilotD12,

Did you have any information regarding your question!? - If so, do you mind to share (PM are more than welcome)
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Old 16th Jul 2016, 13:01
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Originally Posted by jayjay340
Matr check ur pm
jayjay340 ....do you mind to share your knowledge with me? (pm are also welcome)

Cheers
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Old 17th Jul 2016, 08:19
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I can't respond to everything, but I want to respond to the hull loss comment.

Yes, airlines have accidents, however most airlines implement changes or address safety short falls. That hasn't happened here at FZ. It's business as usual, just more meetings to discuss possible changes.

No one is saying you can't accept this job, or that it isn't better than what you have currently. Just if you work here understand that in 7 years this airline has not improved to a level to keep over 20% of the pilot group from leaving in a 7 month period. Attrition is not opportunity for up and coming pilots, it should be a Red Master Warning with alarm bells.

And stop being a management brown nose a$$ licker by saying if you don't like it leave. Our scab chief pilots has that engraved on his cars number plate already.
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Old 17th Jul 2016, 10:17
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Originally Posted by LostinT2DXB
I can't respond to everything, but I want to respond to the hull loss comment.

Yes, airlines have accidents, however most airlines implement changes or address safety short falls. That hasn't happened here at FZ. It's business as usual, just more meetings to discuss possible changes.

No one is saying you can't accept this job, or that it isn't better than what you have currently. Just if you work here understand that in 7 years this airline has not improved to a level to keep over 20% of the pilot group from leaving in a 7 month period. Attrition is not opportunity for up and coming pilots, it should be a Red Master Warning with alarm bells.

And stop being a management brown nose a$$ licker by saying if you don't like it leave. Our scab chief pilots has that engraved on his cars number plate already.
Your response isn't very becoming of a professional.I defintely wouldnt be taking advice from someone who is so quick to anger. You can call me whatever name you want to it doesn't affect me. I'm here to converse I'm really not into the name calling. If you don't like it shouldn't you leave? I guess you should stick around just to complain on here. I wasn't satisfied with my last job and it's working conditions so I left. Do you think FZ and EK are the only two airlines pilots are leaving in droves? My buddy at air Europa is complaining about the hours they fly and their constant delay's / change in rosters

my buddy at BA is complaining about his pension package and upgrade time

my buddy at United is complaining about flight duty limitations and reserve /standby duty pay, and the list can go on. There's no perfect airline man. none. I understand your concern's but if you dont feel like enough has been done about the hull lost to your satisfaction you can either try to implement change or you can leave. That's not management ass licking, it's called not stressing your dam self out over things you can't change. Vortex left and now he's happy in China, and that's basically it. Find the situation that's best for you and ride it out. You may not be happy but others just might be.

We need to treat each other with respect. Even though we may not agree with the path someone is choosing or the decision they have made, you don't know their history or what they've been through.

Happy flying
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Old 17th Jul 2016, 10:58
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ifly462,

You are right , everybody has his own experience and should be free to join any company he or she wants.
The only thing that starts to irritate me , though , is those new joiners who start to complain on the flight deck after less than one year in the company when they have been warned before joining and have ignored what was said on this website.
So you are all very welcome to join but , please , once here don't ruin my day on the flight deck telling me how tired you are , how bad the roster is , in general how bad this company is etc...

Concerning your friends at BA or United complaining , this a different level.
Human being , once their basic needs are fullfilled , starts to want more and will always start to complain at a certain point even when very well treated BUT this another story.
I have also been working for a legacy Airlines and despite the fact that the pilots were flying on average 65 to 75 hours a month , well paid , good loss a licence insurance fully paid by the company , etc were complaining BUT there were not leaving the company in numbers like here.
People will always be looking to get more that's in human nature.
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Old 17th Jul 2016, 12:22
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All pilots complain and I agree that pprune is just a small section of the worldwide pilot group who are on an endless task of trying to find airline nirvana.

However, don't use it as an excuse to disregard all the bad points that are written about FZ.

Yes, guys in BA, AA moan about pension schemes. EK moan that their profit share should have been 8 weeks instead of 4.

Guys in FZ don't moan about that stuff because they are too busy discussing that another destination they fly too is in middle of a war zone. I used to have conversations on the flight deck where we almost justified flying to Erbil "isn't that bad" because the timings are during the day. In context Erbil is less than 20nm form Mosul, the current de facto capital of ISIS.
That is FZ in a nutshell, things are so bad when it comes to rostering, night flying, and general security around the route network that places like Erbil, Kabul, Quetta are actively bid for.

Go to FZ so you can scratch your itch to fly big shiney jets, but don't bring your family, don't buy a house, don't get a loan, because in 2 years that itch will have been scratched, all hope and dedication will have been sucked out of you by the endless stupidity of the airline and the city it's based in. You will then be uprooting your family again to move somewhere else, and if you joined as an FO and don't get your command you will have no money in your pockets either.
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Old 17th Jul 2016, 14:07
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Originally Posted by FlyingTinCans
All pilots complain and I agree that pprune is just a small section of the worldwide pilot group who are on an endless task of trying to find airline nirvana.

However, don't use it as an excuse to disregard all the bad points that are written about FZ.

Yes, guys in BA, AA moan about pension schemes. EK moan that their profit share should have been 8 weeks instead of 4.

Guys in FZ don't moan about that stuff because they are too busy discussing that another destination they fly too is in middle of a war zone. I used to have conversations on the flight deck where we almost justified flying to Erbil "isn't that bad" because the timings are during the day. In context Erbil is less than 20nm form Mosul, the current de facto capital of ISIS.
That is FZ in a nutshell, things are so bad when it comes to rostering, night flying, and general security around the route network that places like Erbil, Kabul, Quetta are actively bid for.

Go to FZ so you can scratch your itch to fly big shiney jets, but don't bring your family, don't buy a house, don't get a loan, because in 2 years that itch will have been scratched, all hope and dedication will have been sucked out of you by the endless stupidity of the airline and the city it's based in. You will then be uprooting your family again to move somewhere else, and if you joined as an FO and don't get your command you will have no money in your pockets either.
I have been flying jets for quite some time my brother, no shinny jet itch here. As I've said before every situation is dependant on the person itself. To be quite honesthe I'll quote something my father taught me as a kid. If you can't survive on 10 dollars, you won't be able to on 100. You have to make whatever you have work for you and live within your means. My family and I survived on 3000 a month when rent was half of that and my wife was unemployed with 3 kids to feed. There's absolutely no way an FZ salary won't work for us. The rosters were a lot tougher also.

The destinations are definitely a cause for concern and there's no way around it working for FZ. so the only way to avoid it is not signing up for a job at FZ. it drives me nuts to know everyone knows where the cmpany flies to then complain about the destinations after accepting the job! Anyway as I said before the only person who can control me is ME! If I'm not happy in a situation or I feel the safety of meach and my family is being jeopardised I am going to LEAVE. It's that simple. I understand everything you guys are saying on here and I appreciate it but the constant negative post while you guys refuse to leave the situation just doesn't make sense to me
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