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Old 19th Jun 2016, 08:00
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Anybody recently attended the IST assessment and could give some information..? Is the simulator more or less same as in the UK or different and what questions will be asked on the technical interview? Just to know what I have to prepare..
Thanks for the help!
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Old 19th Jun 2016, 08:47
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It just amazes me that even with all the info on this board about what a sh1t place this is to work people still are asking for assessment info.
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Old 19th Jun 2016, 14:44
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I could not agree more: why anyone would join this toxic company - following a hull loss with significant loss of life - beats me.
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Old 19th Jun 2016, 14:55
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Originally Posted by olster
I could not agree more: why anyone would join this toxic company - following a hull loss with significant loss of life - beats me.
Maybe because they need a job.
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Old 19th Jun 2016, 15:06
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Rather have self - respect.
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Old 19th Jun 2016, 15:14
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Originally Posted by olster
Rather have self - respect.
sounds somehow arrogant to me. It's easy to judge without knowing the personal circumstances. For some people the gig is much better then what they have at home.
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Old 19th Jun 2016, 18:02
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Or they think it is...

The grass is always greener on the other side, isnt it?
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Old 19th Jun 2016, 20:27
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Yes, it is certainly easy to judge behind a keyboard - the facts about this company are well documented. Toxic and appalling from all perspectives, now with blood on their hands.
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Old 19th Jun 2016, 21:16
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Honestly, if the job you have now is worse than flydubai, you need to ask yourself some serious questions and maybe find another path in life. I'm not saying to give up flying, just find another path to your ultimate goal because coming here isn't the answer to your problems people.
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Old 19th Jun 2016, 22:09
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Just in case anyone is really wondering how bad it is..... It has just gotten worse. There's a new 'sick' policy in place which basically prohibits anyone calling sick before or after a day 'off'. Before it was only if you call in sick for more than 2 days on the trot or before/after any leave. Now, you do it pretty much at all, and they'll have you!

Trust me, it's only getting worse.
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Old 21st Jun 2016, 07:16
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Alright, let's not get carried away. I definitely understand the hate towards the company, I also dislike a lot of things about it, but to type that the company has "prohibited" calling in sick before or after days off is just plain false.

Let's try to keep it at hard cold facts, yes, even the negatives, so people are fully aware of what they will put up with here if they come to FD.

The company has decided to treat their pilots once again as children, by modifying an already ridiculous Sick Policy. Now, if you call in sick before or after days off you are required to present a sick note from the doctor. They're not prohibiting anything, just asking you to bring s Drs note, just like you did when you were 10 years old back in school.
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Old 21st Jun 2016, 08:20
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Originally Posted by Vortac1
Alright, let's not get carried away. I definitely understand the hate towards the company, I also dislike a lot of things about it, but to type that the company has "prohibited" calling in sick before or after days off is just plain false.

Let's try to keep it at hard cold facts, yes, even the negatives, so people are fully aware of what they will put up with here if they come to FD.

The company has decided to treat their pilots once again as children, by modifying an already ridiculous Sick Policy. Now, if you call in sick before or after days off you are required to present a sick note from the doctor. They're not prohibiting anything, just asking you to bring s Drs note, just like you did when you were 10 years old back in school.
We should ask ourselfs why they did this. I keep hearing the same rumors that a certain pilot group/nationality keeps saying we have 57 leave days iso 42. Aka 42 leave and 15 sick days to use around the leave period. IF that were true we are making life difficult for ourselfs and you get this respons. I'm not gonna discuss the PBS bidding for days off around leave as it's pointless.

Again, just the messager. NO FACTS.
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Old 21st Jun 2016, 11:17
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I couldn't agree more. I've also heard about this 57 days of leave thing. I also think we may have brought this one unto ourselves.

Sometimes us pilots are our own worst enemy...
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Old 21st Jun 2016, 11:32
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Now, if you call in sick before or after days off you are required to present a sick note from the doctor.
Well, my present airline has this requirement since it started operations more than 25 years ago.
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Old 22nd Jun 2016, 00:30
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Every airline has pilots who take advantage of the system. Heck, every company (aviation or not) has a group of people that take advantage of the system. It wouldn't be such a drastic determent to operations in these people were properly staffed.

If you need a day off because of a headache before/after a day off, a Panadol won't do the job anymore. You'll have to give yourself an as*ache too by going to the Dr to get a sick note for the headache. Oh well, I suppose 2 can play at that game. They want a sick note, they'll get the sick note I suppose.

Again, short term plaster (band aid), for a issue they're not really willing to issue (the rosters and staffing issues).

The figures will look fine in the short term, until people get used to it and start calling sick again - and then what? What sort of a 'smack down' will they use then?

I will add however, I do NOT and I condone taking the p*ss with sick days, I'm an adult and the majority of the folks I fly with are. With that said, a genuine one day headache requiring a sick note just doesn't sit well with me.

Funny thing is 'focus groups' and 'ways to make things better' groups are being conducted at this time. For what? For them to pull these sort of stunts on us? Its almost like an olive branch with one hand and a slap in the face with the other.

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Old 25th Jun 2016, 07:46
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Hey guys this is too much now. I have worked for two small airlines not as shiny as you guys are used to. Reporting sick has got to have a report from the doctor approved by the company. After all if you are sick, you are sick. I have never heard of a doctor declaring a sick person fit.

This is not something new to any pilot I suppose. So why would someone come here and start vomiting BS as if he/she is a grade five child?!!

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Old 25th Jun 2016, 08:04
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The big problem is that there is a big grey area between being sick and being unfit to fly.
The last example is a pilot on the first sector of the day , aligned on the runway for take off , shuting down both engine instead of setting the parking brake !!!

Was he sick ? NO Was he fit to fly ? I doubt it

So I am not sure that a doctor will always declare you "sick" even if you are not fit to fly.
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Old 25th Jun 2016, 08:31
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At least it wasn't in flight..
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Old 25th Jun 2016, 09:16
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Well, once after takeoff I called for flaps up and the other guy selected the gear down
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Old 25th Jun 2016, 14:19
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Originally Posted by BritishGuy
Every airline has pilots who take advantage of the system. Heck, every company (aviation or not) has a group of people that take advantage of the system. It wouldn't be such a drastic determent to operations in these people were properly staffed.

If you need a day off because of a headache before/after a day off, a Panadol won't do the job anymore. You'll have to give yourself an as*ache too by going to the Dr to get a sick note for the headache. Oh well, I suppose 2 can play at that game. They want a sick note, they'll get the sick note I suppose.

Again, short term plaster (band aid), for a issue they're not really willing to issue (the rosters and staffing issues).

The figures will look fine in the short term, until people get used to it and start calling sick again - and then what? What sort of a 'smack down' will they use then?

I will add however, I do NOT and I condone taking the p*ss with sick days, I'm an adult and the majority of the folks I fly with are. With that said, a genuine one day headache requiring a sick note just doesn't sit well with me.

Funny thing is 'focus groups' and 'ways to make things better' groups are being conducted at this time. For what? For them to pull these sort of stunts on us? Its almost like an olive branch with one hand and a slap in the face with the other.
BritishGuy - it's funny to hear they have groups to make things better today. Back in 2010 I was tasked with the same thing. I gathered lots of information, had meetings at the highest level, was reassured things would change, etc. I left three years later.

You can have all the focus groups you like, but if no action is taken on the (obvious if we're honest) recommendations, then really they aren't worth doing in the first place. You end up jading the people that actually believe a difference can be made.
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