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Old 6th Sep 2016, 09:18
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I have seeing this being asked some months ago but I have not been able to find an answer. Sorry if I am being repetitive. I have being contacted to do the Online Interview. Any advise, or info? If you want you can send me a PM. Thank you!
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Old 7th Sep 2016, 07:52
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Night Stop or Per Diem Allowance

Hi for those currently at FZ, do they offer night stop allowance?
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Old 10th Sep 2016, 08:53
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They do give you an allowance. 55 USD (or equivalent in local currency). They are cheeky and only give you one time allowance for longer layovers. (36hrs + i.e.) Despite you have to pay for 2 lunches and perhaps 2 dinners. Never done the long (48+hrs) layovers so don't know how they handle that. Breakfast is included and you don't pay for it.

New layovers starting in Sarajevo, Kiev and Bratislava. Bangkok starting in November too.
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Old 10th Sep 2016, 15:09
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Every time I've been on a two day layover I've had two envelopes of 55 or equivalent.

Last two day was in Cmb last month
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Old 12th Sep 2016, 10:43
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Thanks a lot guys joining soon!
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Old 23rd Sep 2016, 00:09
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Pay Package

Can anybody post the latest pay package for Capts and F/Os joining now??
Any info other benefits like medical and travel would be appreciated?
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 08:19
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Capt top per month $18,000 at max hours
FO top per month $13,000 at max hours

Emirates business class tickets STBY after 6 months
Staff travel on network for up 5 freinds

Per diem $50 per night on layovers

Medical insurance is not bad for your spouse and children

You can claim back a cash ticket to your home country once a year for your spouse and children

You can also claim school fees maximum 3 kids value is around 30,000 and 45,000 AED for high school

42 days annual leave plus 15 paid sick leave days (must supply a medical certificate)

It's worth mentioning that the renumeration is below average for the region and does not compensate for the aggressive schedules and subsquent years that will be taken of your life.

If you where gonna die at 80 naturally after a few years in Flydubai doing the body clock changes you can make that figure 75 or worse

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Old 25th Sep 2016, 09:35
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Originally Posted by too_much
You can also claim school fees maximum 3 kids value is around 30,000 and 45,000 AED for high school
That should read 44000 AED for primary and 66000 AED for secondary. Other than that there is also stafftravel on Air Arabia.

I've never been at $18000, not even at max hours + dead head pay. Mind you I am not A-scale. 😋 More realistically I'd say for Captains you are looking at $15000. (80 block hrs pay and including housing allowance. Not every one works up to 900 hrs/yr. I'm around 820 hrs/yr at the moment.

My last month with 85hrs and additional housing pay-back was $14600 nett pay. With pay-back I mean the difference between your allowance and what I actually pay in rent. (which in my case is slightly less than the allowance) Hence it's the most I've ever recieved here.

Typically it's better to work without looking at the housing allowance as the end sum depends on your rental price. If you then work with $10900 nett for every month you will not be dissapointed and have an accurate figure to plan with. IMHO.

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Old 25th Sep 2016, 18:29
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The package

$13000 is including accommodation ?and how many hours per month when you say max hrs. I understand FZ makes you fly a lot but I'm sure it will be better than flying with EK. And I think guys at FZ are still better of living in Dubai as compared to being in Doha with Qr. Any views and suggestions pls advise
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 08:48
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First Officer Online Interview

Please, any advise or info about the online interview?
Thanks in advance!!
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 18:26
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Originally Posted by Blackbird007
$13000 is including accommodation ?and how many hours per month when you say max hrs. I understand FZ makes you fly a lot but I'm sure it will be better than flying with EK. And I think guys at FZ are still better of living in Dubai as compared to being in Doha with Qr. Any views and suggestions pls advise
$13000 sounds like way too much IMHO. FO salary should be around $11000 incl housing allowance. (85hrs) So work on $7700 nett per month on top of which you'll get your housing allowance. Same principle as with Captains. Maybe one of our FO's can help out with some actual figures...?
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Old 27th Sep 2016, 19:50
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Hello guys,

I am thinking about joining.

I have some hours on 737 and before that I was flying the dash 8.
I will be coming with my wife and my kid ( 4 years old)

I was thinking about the salary, is it that good as advertised? If you choose an apartment what would be the price in a good area? what about a house ( is it crazy expensive)?
Do I have to lOok to places far the airport?

About the roster, I heard that in the beginning I will be assigned mainly the night flights.
true? if so, how long does it take to get something better?

And eventually, I am 33 and upgrade is something I am looking for.... at the moment what is the situation for the new comers?

Thanks
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Old 28th Sep 2016, 02:56
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Okay this is my opinion only.

Money is as good as advertised. But, im no longer married, so I live in a 1 bedroom apartment.

Cost is 85k p/y
Dewa (elect/water) say 5k p/y
Food, I shop in Carrefour or lulus and I cook a lot
Say 12k p/y

Now a place with 2 bedrooms in a decent area then start by doubling what I said, that means also double your Dewa.

If you want nights out, a nanny, maid etc then costs go up quickly.

Flights home, well we are the 2nd class citizen with Emirates so a stanby will have you off loaded first before everyone else. So could get expensive.

If your family are not happy here, then you will have a bad time.

Roster, well lets say they are brutal. After a couple of years mine has finally improved, but that is only for the last 2 months, I expect it to go down hill again.

Holiday, you will be extremely lucky if you see any days off before or after you holiday. Even our most senior FOs and CPTs are lucky to see any day off next to holiday.

Yes you can save money, and ive saved a hugh amount, but no family here, all I gained was a divorce.

Guys you fly with are great.

But again ill say this. If your family are not happy dont come here, you will spend every penny trying to keep them happy, stop the divorce because they never see you, and at the end you could have nothing left to show for your fatigue induced roster.

Imagine doing say 9 18-24 hour rest periods in a row, with each dutie being 8-14 hours. Then if your fortunate a couple nights in a row to finish the month. That was my roster
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Old 28th Sep 2016, 09:16
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Ok so around 4000 USD for an apartment in a decent area. Is that furbished?
What about a house? Am I dreaming?
500 USD for the food for 3. Food does not seem to cost a lot.

that's a good point.500 USD for the car, fuel, phones, elec, water...
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So still 6000 USD left to enjoy Dubai.

Am I missing something



Food does not seem to cost a lot. that's a good point.

I heard that the roster was crazy.
I have a shot with Ryanair too and the roster seems pretty stable and ok if you do not commute which will be my case.

Then the upgrade, how long does it take at the moment. It is one of the most important factor in my decision.
I have been told 2 years.
Is that realistic?
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Old 28th Sep 2016, 15:49
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I have a shot with Ryanair too and the roster seems pretty stable and ok if you do not commute which will be my case.
You can always join Ryanair gain your command and then apply to FZ as DEC. Looking at expansion expected at Flydubai DECs would be around for a while.
Just my 2 cents. Final decision must always be yours though.
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Old 28th Sep 2016, 16:18
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Hello Every One.

Does any one know when is the next non type rated assessment happening in UAE .
Do they happen every month?

I am currently flying A-320 , I have 1400 hours on 737-400 and ,3500 TT.
I am also applying in Emirates and Etihad.

What are my chances?

Also i need help from people who have already gone through the Skype interview etc etc.

Please PM me.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 28th Sep 2016, 18:58
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Originally Posted by transport jock
A furnished apartment costs anywhere from 60k-210k per year.. It all depends on location and bedrooms. Marina is expensive but location is pretty good. Have a look at https://dubai.dubizzle.com/ under the property section to get a feel for prices for apartments, villas and cars etc

Villas will cost you from 110k (2/3 bed) and up. Average 3-4 bed in a good location now costs 135-195k depending on quality/popularity of the area.. Cedar villas in Silicon Oasis is where a lot of the EK guys used to stay but now that they have almost all been moved, has a lot of empty 4 bed villas but they going for 185k per year.. Take into account the bigger the villa the bigger the DEWA bill in the summer... For a 3 bed apartment expect about 1500pm during summer and 600pm during winter.. For a Villa that goes up to +- 1000pm for winter and 2500/3500pm during summer...

Buying groceries and cooking at home with decent quality stuff for a 3 person family shouldn't cost you more than 1500pm. A good car which will cost you say 100k will be about 1800pm in repayments with a 20% deposit. Insurance is paid yearly and should be around 15-3500 depending on type of car. Mobile bill depends on pre paid or contract, but if you want internet at home (if not provided as part of rent) its better to go for a bundle deal which should cost about 600aed (tv/20gig interntet/land line).

Costs start to increase with kids.. School fees should be covered for most schools, but you will probably end up paying out of your pocket for books/uniform/ after school activities/trips/ etc etc.

A trip to the water park will cost 2-300aed per person.. Legoland opening in October a similar price and World of adventure (marvel comics etc) the same.. APC membership card is +- 180 pm to get discounted access to beach clubs and discounts at restaurants etc.

As for command, you need 1000hrs on type, 4000 total, 2 good marks in 2 consecutive simulators (not including your final sim check). Then you can apply.. Then you need to pass an interview. Then 4 sim sessions (2 training 2 tests) and then 20 sectors of line training.. And yes, only 10 of the last 24 guys made it through that..

As for applying at Ryan air first.. Remember Airlines are all about seniority numbers.. Going to Ryan air just to get command to join as a DEC later at FZ will put you 2 years down the line of seniority, which might have a bit impact on your roster/leave bidding etc if/when you do eventually join FZ

Thats my 1 fils worth.
So gaining command and joining from another company is of no advantage as even if your a direct entry captain you will be junior to the junior most First officer. If one fails an upgrade how long a cooling period to reapply for an upgrade?
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Old 1st Oct 2016, 06:10
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For FO's it's actually written in the manuals that if you fail a command upgrade you will only be employed as FO for a maximum of 24 months from point of failure. Not sure how strict they adhere to this however.

Depending on the failure issue, the Company will keep the candidate’s contract as First Officer for a maximum of 24 months.
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Old 1st Oct 2016, 18:04
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Dear friends and colleagues..

Good evening ..
Yesterday I received an email from FZ HR ,invited me to attend CTC assessment.
I found here many guys talked about SKYPE interview!
Is it a new selection process ?
Because as far as I know ..The assessment consist of :
Aptitude test
Group exercise
Panel interview
Sim session
Final interview in DXB.

Any info will be great....

your reply highly appreciated..

Thank you..

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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 06:52
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how are the schedules there??
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