British Airways vs. BASSA (Airline Staff Only)
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It does seem that many of the Bassa militants display paranoid tendancies.
It is common that they perceive everyone to be against them (well ok, most people are) and they take offence at any possible slight.
Very rarely will they believe, or even listen to anyone else's point of view; nor will they enter a discussion without taking offence.
Shame that Keir Hardie didn't come back as I sensed that she wanted to air her points, but maybe she felt she couldn't face the opposing view.
This would be a typically fearful reaction.
Which is ironic as she considers herself courageous: I'm sure she is bright , articulate and knowledgeable - so why doesn't she question even the most obvious of Bassa's untruths. Maybe , in time, she can effect change from within.
Personally I would like to reassure her that I would defend her, and her right to that opinion , as much as I will defend those crew whose beliefs differ to hers.
Bullying and harrassment, and the right to free speech, works both ways.
All crew must feel safe in their working environment.
Some may find it hard to believe, given years of Bassa lies and spin, but BA pilots view it as their duty to look after ALL of you as best we can.
No exceptions.
I promise to put my neck firmly on the line to protect ALL or ANY crew against fear and intimidation.
It is common that they perceive everyone to be against them (well ok, most people are) and they take offence at any possible slight.
Very rarely will they believe, or even listen to anyone else's point of view; nor will they enter a discussion without taking offence.
Shame that Keir Hardie didn't come back as I sensed that she wanted to air her points, but maybe she felt she couldn't face the opposing view.
This would be a typically fearful reaction.
Which is ironic as she considers herself courageous: I'm sure she is bright , articulate and knowledgeable - so why doesn't she question even the most obvious of Bassa's untruths. Maybe , in time, she can effect change from within.
Personally I would like to reassure her that I would defend her, and her right to that opinion , as much as I will defend those crew whose beliefs differ to hers.
Bullying and harrassment, and the right to free speech, works both ways.
All crew must feel safe in their working environment.
Some may find it hard to believe, given years of Bassa lies and spin, but BA pilots view it as their duty to look after ALL of you as best we can.
No exceptions.
I promise to put my neck firmly on the line to protect ALL or ANY crew against fear and intimidation.
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It seems to me that are you are angling for a fight
In my opinion they are full of bravado on here - and from other public social media forums where they have accessed their wife's Facebook account
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Must be full of bravado at work too, as more than one SCCM was offloaded last weekend. Perhaps there'll be more offloads this week, now that 'oneteam' ensures that the union hacks no longer have free reign to intimidate their colleagues.
In my opinion they are full of bravado on here
(edited to add; yes, a SCCM was removed from a crew last weekend, apparently because of things he/she said to their junior crewmembers just prior to the commencement of the briefing).
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Dear Right Engine,
With regard to your advice for non-striking cabin crew may I suggest that you alter your suggestion regarding the crew car park, as I am informed that several crew have had their tyres slashed and spray painted!
Rather hypocritical of BASSA to talk about bullying by mangement then!!
BA are investigating.
With regard to your advice for non-striking cabin crew may I suggest that you alter your suggestion regarding the crew car park, as I am informed that several crew have had their tyres slashed and spray painted!
Rather hypocritical of BASSA to talk about bullying by mangement then!!
BA are investigating.
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Juan - pick any colour you like - there are plenty spare. I shall be flying a Chatham Dockyard flag on my tail as I pass overhead.
Bacabincrew - hardly shouting our mouths off, just a statement of intent. I fully understand you only represent yourself, so can you please state the reasons you will strike, and what you require for settlement of this dispute?
Edit to correct bacabincrew handle - sorry confused with an earlier posters name.
Bacabincrew - hardly shouting our mouths off, just a statement of intent. I fully understand you only represent yourself, so can you please state the reasons you will strike, and what you require for settlement of this dispute?
Edit to correct bacabincrew handle - sorry confused with an earlier posters name.
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Will be on picket duty over this coming weekend and just cannot decide on the best colour flag to fly. I find the red ones a bit too colourful, however the white ones look much better but only when flown without red ones near
PS Did I mention that the flight crew are from now on going to be sitting in on your briefings. People on BASSA forum seem to find that a very uncomfortable prospect. Best get used to being uncomfortable then.
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I'm not your lacky and I certainly don't do requests - I'm not representing anybody on here apart from myself - ask someone else to try to humour you
This thread will certainly seem aggressive to someone who is not prepared to stand up and defend their point of view - rightly in my mind - if you are unable to support your argument with facts then it has no place in the debate.
On the other hand, and very unlike other forums of debate, the mods do a good job of ensuring that people debate the issues and don't resort to personal attacks. In that respect, PPRuNe is extremely important and somewhat unique in this matter in particular.
The company is laying out a new direction, and in reinforcing the message that the company is in charge, I cannot see how crew can think that pilots' laying down the rules on this thread are being bullying at all. My view is that it is pathetic to suggest that is the case, and comes from unionists who have had free rein for far too long, and are shocked to find that they work for a business, not the other way around.
No - my reasons are personal and private and of no concern of yours
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PS Did I mention that the flight crew are from now on going to be sitting in on your briefings
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Bacabincrew - that's a shame, I was hoping you could try to persuade us of the righteousness of your cause. If your opinions are private and personal, why are you posting here?
ottergirl
Funny thing is that my Captain yesterday didn't know anything about this so he didn't join us
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Posted by Ottergirl
apparently we should meet up to discuss the format we want before the briefing. This will necessitate coming in early for a flight. That'll be popular!
apparently we should meet up to discuss the format we want before the briefing. This will necessitate coming in early for a flight. That'll be popular!
Considering there is an Industrial Dispute going on, I don't see the problem. Most of us do tend to report earlier than our briefing times anyway.
Besides, it does give the CSD/Purser an opportunity to reassure crew who have may have any concerns.