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Old 25th May 2010, 13:54
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On the last day of the last strike 73% of LHR crew reported as rostered. Why is the company not publishing these statistics this time? We can only assume that no news is bad news.
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Smile Nice to read

As ex BA ( many moons ago) and now just SLC, It is very good to read the posts of the CC here that are trying to maintain a standard of service and ignoring the propoganda of BASSA
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Old 25th May 2010, 14:23
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Perhaps the only realistic way of judging how well it's going will be when BA announces it schedule for the next few days. We've flown 100% of our initially planned schedule (actually a bit more, as some planned freighter services have now been crewed up!) , with little VCCs used.

If we increased our planned schedule, would it be accurate to assume things are going well?

I think we will ramp it up.

I look forward to BASSA's explanation of this increased service. It might be a bit of a challenge for their spin doctors.
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Old 25th May 2010, 14:24
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Nobodys job is secure, ever! Do those on strike really realise how vulnerable they have made themselves, and more to the point, the vast majority of their colleagues who have not gone on strike!
It has gone so far now that I earnestly hope this selfish minority find out, and find out soon, that their jobs are not secure.
All this time on it is still, to me, incredible that these people have not been brought to book before.
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Old 25th May 2010, 14:41
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Unite/BASSA want Willie Walsh to step aside

News media have been reporting that Unite/BASSA want Willie Walsh to step aside and let Keith Williams do the negotiating for BA as they feel that he is a "reasonable manager".

Somehow, I don't think this is going to happen. And isn't it a bit rich for a disunited union to try and suggest that there is a split at the top of BA? It reminds me of that old saying of "looking at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye".
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Old 25th May 2010, 15:13
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Walsh

Keep the good work up Mr Walsh and stick to your guns about staff travel.
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Old 25th May 2010, 15:21
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If he doesn't then the credibility of BA management, in the eyes of the vast majority of BA staff, will be seriously damaged.
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Old 25th May 2010, 15:30
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Unite/BASSA want Willie Walsh to step aside

Absolutely deluded!

No, we the real BA people are behind Willie, as are the city and general public alike.

The strikers are proving time and time again how out of touch they really are. Sadly, a dose of reality will be too late in the shape of P45s.

They were warned about ST, they've had enough warnings of the real possibilty from their own colleagues of their continued unjustified actions resulting in the loss of their jobs.

Time to start updating cv's...maybe not a good idea to say you worked for B.A.

Let us, those that care for the Airline, proceed in doing so please. Thank you
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Old 25th May 2010, 16:15
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Question misguided?

Originally Posted by Juan Odeboyse
As for all those crew mulling around in the CRC, the vast majority are misguided groundstaff who see this as an escape from their normal jobs
... and your point is?

Perhaps Juan is a little disturbed at the thought of all those hard working people, who have taken the time and effort to gain the same qualifications as his/hers will be keen to take up the offer full time ... now they have seen the reality!
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Old 25th May 2010, 16:58
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DTM,the structural changes that you refer to would appear NOT to be the issue.I thought TW offered to call off the strike if WW would re-instate the DOJ aspect of ST.WW declined that offer so BA still has a strike on its hands.According to Richard Branson,J customers are flocking to Virgin in their droves.According to the media hundreds of BA flights are cancelled again today.BA will lose millions today and I guess tomorrow etc etc.This is about one mans ego,no more.Customers are now the victims in this crusade which is all about appeasing the non-strikers and the CEO.Crazy!!

Offered to SUSPEND the strike being the true case. Of course TW did, with June 12th coming up they need some breathing space before starting up again in the future. If your definition of 'ego' is the BA board, vast majority of staff and pax and the city, then you may be right.
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Old 25th May 2010, 17:19
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"commuters" , that special kind of human beings that believe that the sun rises from their a..., they are constantly cold and tired etc etc... they were on hotlines and we could spot them because of the killing looks they were giving us.

They were the only ones ingoring my "good morning" while I was standing by the exits and the only ones to have forgotten "please" when ordering a gin and tonic at 6am... Such rudeness...
I hope that they were not drinking alcohol, whilst in uniform?
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Old 25th May 2010, 17:21
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This is about one mans ego!!!!

Come on, get real. The ego is there for all to see....it's the militant cabin crew and union who thought they could hold the airline to ransom and get there own way.
Their ego is so big that it is blinding them to the fact that they are in a no win situation.
Unfortunately some people will lose their jobs as a result of this dispute. I just hope that the collateral damage caused by the cabin crew can be limited.
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Old 25th May 2010, 17:27
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Call me misguided
People are still volunteering.
I'm still waiting for my course
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Old 25th May 2010, 17:30
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Just on skys breaking news ticker tape that BA are to appeal the last injunction!

British Airways Strike: Airline To Appeal Court Verdict Which Allowed Unite Union Walkout | Business | Sky News
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Old 25th May 2010, 17:37
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So the sensible ones are to blame for the damage?

Widebody69: Customers are now the victims in this crusade which is all about appeasing the non-strikers and the CEO.Crazy!!
Widebody69, don't you think that you comment is like saying that the owner of a bar and all the rest of the well behaved patrons are to blame because someone got drunk and caused a fight?

BASSA and it's lunatic fringe are the trouble makers here, why should the rest of us suffer? Are J class pax (according to RB) flocking to Virgin because of actions WW & non-striking CC have done? Of course not! If pax are switching it is because BASSA and their suicide tactics are scaring them away. Wake-up and get real before you and your friend's at the minimum lose your jobs and the worst cause the rest of us to lose ours. The offers you have been made don't even require you to accept any major loss of T&Cs and yet you behave like WW was trying to sell your kidneys on eBay! Crazy....

PS: BASSA membership losses are now in the 1500-2000 range. Slowly boiling down to an irrelevant hardcore. There was a very interesting annonymous interview on Radio4's PM programme. In the interview the person said they had been previously on strike but were shocked at how their "leaders were acting like 16 year old schoolboys".

Please Note: My views are personal and do not represent those of any other individual or organisation.
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Old 25th May 2010, 17:38
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Just on skys breaking news...

Not holding my breath here, but the Sky News presenter mentioned of legality, which, if BA win, could result in the strike being illegal with the possibilty of those on strike being dismissed. Fingers crossed!
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Old 25th May 2010, 17:45
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Derek Simpson

Derek Simpson's latest twitterering

BA to pursue it's trivial legal point further .. Obviously Willy doesn't like to be bested but somebody at BA needs to get a grip of him
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Old 25th May 2010, 17:47
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BREAKING NEWS
Walsh goes to court to challenge strike
IF the strike is declared illegal he has said that there WILL be consequences
I have never known WW to go back on his word

if you have striked you are hanging on a life line that is so bl**dy thin it is about to break
if the strike is illegal or ANY part of it
YOU could be sacked, this is serious and you had all be getting on your phones to your bank managers
you entered a very dangerous game, hoped you are prepared to loose!
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Old 25th May 2010, 17:59
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essessdeedee,

I have been invited to apply for a course running May 14 June to 7 July. I'm keeping my feet firmly on the ground, so maybe you will get my place!
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Old 25th May 2010, 18:25
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Just a thought,. If we flight crew were to take the ultimate sanction, i.e. go on strike (which would ground the airline, unlike this one)

How would you feel if it was blocked through the courts continuously?

Ultimate bargaining chip gone I'd feel.

People must be allowed to legally go on strike if they wish - lemmings or not.
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