British Airways vs. BASSA (Airline Staff Only)
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Unite are using the cabin crew dispute to flex their muscles - no one can seriously believe they truly represent the views of the majority of crew..
Over the last couple of days Simpson and Woodley have shown their contempt for the people involved and let their personal opinion of Walsh cloud their judgement.
Tweeting during the most important meeting shows a lack of respect - for his members and the process.
Now refusing to call off the strike until ST is reinstated is blackmail..WW stated from day one that ST would be forfeited for those people who went on strike and therefore damaged the airline..the unions boasted in all meetings when crews expressed worries about the loss of ST, the union stated ST would be first on the list for reinstatment before they negotiated further with BA.
I honestly feel it's an ego trip for the leaders of UNITE - they're determined to chase WW out of office and then have an hold over a new CEO..but the city is behind Walsh as are the majority of public opinion and other departments in BA.
Rest assured there will be no winners in this dispute and BA will be lucky to survive the damage this has caused.
Over the last couple of days Simpson and Woodley have shown their contempt for the people involved and let their personal opinion of Walsh cloud their judgement.
Tweeting during the most important meeting shows a lack of respect - for his members and the process.
Now refusing to call off the strike until ST is reinstated is blackmail..WW stated from day one that ST would be forfeited for those people who went on strike and therefore damaged the airline..the unions boasted in all meetings when crews expressed worries about the loss of ST, the union stated ST would be first on the list for reinstatment before they negotiated further with BA.
I honestly feel it's an ego trip for the leaders of UNITE - they're determined to chase WW out of office and then have an hold over a new CEO..but the city is behind Walsh as are the majority of public opinion and other departments in BA.
Rest assured there will be no winners in this dispute and BA will be lucky to survive the damage this has caused.
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BA urges Unite to call off strikes
In a statement the airline said: “We had agreed to a request from ACAS to meet this afternoon (Sunday) and are surprised that Unite did not take advantage of this. We are disappointed that Tony Woodley has taken to negotiation through the media rather than through ACAS.”
On Sunday afternoon, the Unite leader told a press conference that he would suspend strike action if staff travel was reinstated without conditions to cabin crew who had taken part in previous strike action.
A spokesperson for the airline said: “We have already offered to reinstate travel concessions to cabin crew once all elements of our offer have been implemented.
“Of more concern to us is Tony Woodley's comment to the media that he wants to revisit certain proposals in our offer, when previously he had indicated that these were agreed. This position reinforces our view that BASSA, at the centre of this dispute, is not serious in trying to come to a negotiated agreement with British Airways - and that Tony Woodley cannot control BASSA. We call on him to call off the strike action and return to the table with Acas to finish the discussions that started yesterday.”
Talks on Saturday had been halted after protestors stormed the building.
The airline said its priority was to its customers who are caught in the middle of this dispute.
The spokesperson added: “We will focus will be on flying tens of thousands of our customers to where they want to be in the world every day that strike action takes place. All flights at London Gatwick and London City will operate as normal. At Heathrow we expect to operate more than 60 per cent of longhaul services and more than 50 per cent of shorthaul flights and we will add to that schedule where we can.”
On Sunday afternoon, the Unite leader told a press conference that he would suspend strike action if staff travel was reinstated without conditions to cabin crew who had taken part in previous strike action.
A spokesperson for the airline said: “We have already offered to reinstate travel concessions to cabin crew once all elements of our offer have been implemented.
“Of more concern to us is Tony Woodley's comment to the media that he wants to revisit certain proposals in our offer, when previously he had indicated that these were agreed. This position reinforces our view that BASSA, at the centre of this dispute, is not serious in trying to come to a negotiated agreement with British Airways - and that Tony Woodley cannot control BASSA. We call on him to call off the strike action and return to the table with Acas to finish the discussions that started yesterday.”
Talks on Saturday had been halted after protestors stormed the building.
The airline said its priority was to its customers who are caught in the middle of this dispute.
The spokesperson added: “We will focus will be on flying tens of thousands of our customers to where they want to be in the world every day that strike action takes place. All flights at London Gatwick and London City will operate as normal. At Heathrow we expect to operate more than 60 per cent of longhaul services and more than 50 per cent of shorthaul flights and we will add to that schedule where we can.”
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Flyer 12345 the perfectly reasonable BA Offer is exactly why many crew including a friend of mine who did originally strike are more than happy to accept the offer,indeeed she has volunteered to help activate the contingency schedule during her partime week off!.oh yes, she also felt obligated in this context to leave Bassa which she did at the end of last week.
I remind her in my tongue in cheek way that I withdrew from Amicus who have allowed themselves to be hostage to the Bassa Ideology 6 months ago.
I take my hat off to MR Walsh who has shown professional composure during this ridiculous spectacle that has been totally ignited by Unite at both national and local level in my opinion.
I remind her in my tongue in cheek way that I withdrew from Amicus who have allowed themselves to be hostage to the Bassa Ideology 6 months ago.
I take my hat off to MR Walsh who has shown professional composure during this ridiculous spectacle that has been totally ignited by Unite at both national and local level in my opinion.
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Unite are using the cabin crew dispute to flex their muscles - no one can seriously believe they truly represent the views of the majority of crew.
There was a ballot of union members in favour of industrial action. To me, this is the mandate that Unite are negotiating around
Over the last couple of days Simpson and Woodley have shown their contempt for the people involved and let their personal opinion of Walsh cloud their judgement.
The same could be said when words like small minority are used in the media, by the management team
Please see in red
Tweeting during the most important meeting shows a lack of respect - for his members and the process.
Probably not the best move, but at least it was an honest appraisal of what was going on
Now refusing to call off the strike until ST is reinstated is blackmail..WW stated from day one that ST would be forfeited for those people who went on strike and therefore damaged the airline..the unions boasted in all meetings when crews expressed worries about the loss of ST, the union stated ST would be first on the list for reinstatment before they negotiated further with BA.
I think change your T&C's or we will bring in new fleet is exactly the same thing. BA acted and Unite reacted
I honestly feel it's an ego trip for the leaders of UNITE - they're determined to chase WW out of office and then have an hold over a new CEO..but the city is behind Walsh as are the majority of public opinion and other departments in BA.
There are ego's on both sides
Rest assured there will be no winners in this dispute and BA will be lucky to survive the damage this has caused.
You may think that, I disagree, but we are all allowed opinions
There was a ballot of union members in favour of industrial action. To me, this is the mandate that Unite are negotiating around
Over the last couple of days Simpson and Woodley have shown their contempt for the people involved and let their personal opinion of Walsh cloud their judgement.
The same could be said when words like small minority are used in the media, by the management team
Please see in red
Tweeting during the most important meeting shows a lack of respect - for his members and the process.
Probably not the best move, but at least it was an honest appraisal of what was going on
Now refusing to call off the strike until ST is reinstated is blackmail..WW stated from day one that ST would be forfeited for those people who went on strike and therefore damaged the airline..the unions boasted in all meetings when crews expressed worries about the loss of ST, the union stated ST would be first on the list for reinstatment before they negotiated further with BA.
I think change your T&C's or we will bring in new fleet is exactly the same thing. BA acted and Unite reacted
I honestly feel it's an ego trip for the leaders of UNITE - they're determined to chase WW out of office and then have an hold over a new CEO..but the city is behind Walsh as are the majority of public opinion and other departments in BA.
There are ego's on both sides
Rest assured there will be no winners in this dispute and BA will be lucky to survive the damage this has caused.
You may think that, I disagree, but we are all allowed opinions
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Well Litebulbs only time will tell...we're entitled to our opinions but the ultimate vote will land with the travelling public...their future choices will dictate whether BA survives or not...and no one will have any travel concessions if there isn't an airline to fly on.
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With respect to links between BASSA and the SWP attack on ACAS:
The SWP website has details of a conference taking place shortly before this incident being addressed by striking BASSA members. It isn't a huge leap to deduce how they found out about the location of these talks - especially with certain reps talkinhg about using guerilla tactics.
The SWP website has details of a conference taking place shortly before this incident being addressed by striking BASSA members. It isn't a huge leap to deduce how they found out about the location of these talks - especially with certain reps talkinhg about using guerilla tactics.
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All the very best of luck to those working tomorrow..
And sorry to the travelling public who have their arrangements screwed up, the very people that pay our wages and, like us cannot understand the crazy actions of those that are paid well above the UK average in this industry, have had guarantees (unlike the rest of us) and act in such an undesirable manner.
Airlines have folded, I wonder how those unemployed cabin crew feel watching these pathetic chants from those that are on wages that the unemployed can only dream of. Shame, shame on you BASSA.
Good will come out of this. The disloyal die hards will be weeded out some how some way.
We are absolutely sick to the back teeth of you.
Airlines have folded, I wonder how those unemployed cabin crew feel watching these pathetic chants from those that are on wages that the unemployed can only dream of. Shame, shame on you BASSA.
Good will come out of this. The disloyal die hards will be weeded out some how some way.
We are absolutely sick to the back teeth of you.
Tweeting during the most important meeting shows a lack of respect - for his members and the process.
Probably not the best move, but at least it was an honest appraisal of what was going on
Probably not the best move, but at least it was an honest appraisal of what was going on
Give it some thought.
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We are absolutely sick to the back teeth of you
Everyone is..the feedback from the public ranges from vitriolic to apathy now, no one can understand why anyone in a secure job with great pay and conditions (Excelsior HKG, SwissHotel Singapore etc etc) doesn't recognise that they have been on a winner for years and now have to face cutbacks like most of the UK - many. many people have been placed on short time and faced pay cuts - why do BA cabin crew think they should be exempt from a worldwide financial crisis??
And those crew who think UNITE have their best interests at heart are delusional.
Everyone is..the feedback from the public ranges from vitriolic to apathy now, no one can understand why anyone in a secure job with great pay and conditions (Excelsior HKG, SwissHotel Singapore etc etc) doesn't recognise that they have been on a winner for years and now have to face cutbacks like most of the UK - many. many people have been placed on short time and faced pay cuts - why do BA cabin crew think they should be exempt from a worldwide financial crisis??
And those crew who think UNITE have their best interests at heart are delusional.
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Who says it was at the table?
WW stated he saw Simpson on his BB during the meeting but assumed he was replying to important emails not blogging the meeting!
And Simpson has admited it anyway..
And..the tweets are there for all to see with the timeline..
So in answer....everyone!
WW stated he saw Simpson on his BB during the meeting but assumed he was replying to important emails not blogging the meeting!
And Simpson has admited it anyway..
And..the tweets are there for all to see with the timeline..
So in answer....everyone!
Who says it was at the table?
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Eddy wrote:
Indeed he did, Eddy. Willie Walsh is the Chief Executive Officer of British Airways, and not Duncan Holley, Lizanne Malone, or any other union functionary.
The unions and their supporters would do well to remember that.
This is a man who effectively shut a whole airline down to get his way.
The unions and their supporters would do well to remember that.
Last edited by Chuchinchow; 24th May 2010 at 08:38.