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Old 18th Feb 2010, 21:10
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Or maybe...

Could BASSA be concerned about the outcome of the court case and the strike vote, and are leaking this "result" in order to try and gain some much needed leverage in the closing stages of negotiations?

Its a tactic that has been used before. Its just an alternative view point.

My personal expectation of outcome is a reduced yes vote, lower turn out, but a significant number voting yes to teach BA a lesson, but with the intention of still working.
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Old 18th Feb 2010, 21:19
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Snas,

Originally Posted by Snas
It’s first past the post, majority wins, majority of voters that is. NON voters are not NO voters.
Isn't that NON voters don't count?
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Old 18th Feb 2010, 21:21
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Yes, but the way the original question was put was asking if people that didnt vote counted towards the no vote, which it isnt.

Non voters dont count, in any way, towards the result.
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Could BASSA be concerned about the outcome of the court case and the strike vote, and are leaking this "result" in order to try and gain some much needed leverage in the closing stages of negotiations?
Whether or not the 'result' is known, that is most certainly the reason for the leak.
I still however believe that the leak is true, but its interesting that no numbers have been leaked with it. That could suggest its a small majority vote. Anyway, no doubt we'll find out for sure on Monday.
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Old 18th Feb 2010, 21:40
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Our Union, Unite paid for the legal costs to pursue this action, approaching £1.2Million.

British Airways have also spent several million pounds defending their position.
With costs like that if I was a BASSA rep I'd be praying I'd win!
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Old 18th Feb 2010, 21:49
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Snas

Teach me not to read and understand. Sorry.
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Cabin crew at British Airways ‘back strike action again’ | News

British Airways cabin crew have voted in favour of strike action, say union sources.
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Old 19th Feb 2010, 05:24
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This is all getting rather boring. It doesn't matter if BASSA win the ballot. It doesn't matter if BA lose the court case.

BA are not going to back down, and it is up to individual cabin crew to decide whether or not they want to bungy jump without a rope.

All of this posturing is just a preface to BA dotting the i's and crossing the t's on a new era for the company in which it can thrive without the millstone of BASSA hanging around its neck.

I only hope the cabin crew look to the future and find someone who wants to help them negotiate their share of the profits when BA climbs out of this mire of gloom caused by Malone and her cronies.

I would suggest that this PCC mob may be worth a second look.
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Old 19th Feb 2010, 05:54
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I understood this was an independent Electoral organisation? Do they leak results?
A well run electoral organisation wouldn't even begin to count the vote until after the poll closes, precisely to avoid the possibility of leaks or influencing the result.
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Old 19th Feb 2010, 09:32
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Fingers on keyboards folks: On your marks, Get set......
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Old 19th Feb 2010, 09:34
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BASSA - Losers.
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Old 19th Feb 2010, 09:34
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Radio 5 live has just said Unite lost the case [I think].
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Old 19th Feb 2010, 09:34
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Looks like the union lost.
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Old 19th Feb 2010, 09:41
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bassa

From the bassa e-mail yesterday

``We have a strong case, and that’s why we decided to pursue the action taken, but will we receive that justice? Nobody knows, especially after the injunction of our December ballot.``

Did i read this as ..`we are right the judges are wrong``??
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Bassa Big Time Losers

Well done Judge. Common sense prevails. Unite lose big time. They must be delighted to have wasted £1, 200,000 on their so called top flight lawyer. Where now Bassa - the bankruptcy courts?

Any strike will now be a waste of time - coffee smelling time.
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Old 19th Feb 2010, 09:43
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Am I right in thinking that the costs will have to be met by Unite?
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Sanity prevailed in court. Now let's look for sanity in the ballot outcome....

Well done BA!

SLF
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Unite Lost Court Case

Just heard it on Sky News UNITE have lost the court case.
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PCCC Radio 5 today

A gentle reminder - PCCC Radio 5 1100 today! ITN news tonight.

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Well who'd have thought it. BA management are allowed to run the company, not the union!

Due to lack of negotiations last year, the union are now reaping what they didn't sow

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