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Old 15th Jun 2005, 09:48
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Sharing crew rooms with tech and trolly dolly boys and girls is never a good idea.
Throw in a few too many beers, the trouble usually starts...aplenty.

Then, perhaps in the aeroplane, one or two CC decide they are 'in charge'....a bad combination, generally.
Some never learn, it appears.
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Old 15th Jun 2005, 09:55
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Good points well made Surfside6.
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Old 15th Jun 2005, 12:04
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Now that the government has decided that Qantas can maintain the pacific route without competition from Sinagpore Airlines for the time being, lets hope the FAAA lobbies Canberra to secure Austalian jobs.

With the government also likely to lift the current foreign ownership restrictions there should be a trade-off to maintain and RETURN jobs to Australia.

This presents an ideal opportunity for the FAAA to get involved and secure the future of current long haul crew and also create further employment within Australia.
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Old 16th Jun 2005, 00:00
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Fight path grounds Qantas cabin crew

Author: Darren Goodsir
Publication: Sydney Morning Herald (3,Thu 16 Jun 2005)
Edition: First
Section: News and Features
Keywords: Qantas (5)

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Qantas staff must often feel like throttling the odd angry passenger, but instead it seems they are taking their frustrations out on each other.

In the the third reported incident of staff-on-staff violence in as many months, a pilot and two flight attendants were called home from Los Angeles on Tuesday, after being stood down in the wake of a fight at the group's motel in which police are believed to have been called.

The incident has sparked concerns that tight rostering schedules, bigger work pressures and alcohol are leading to an increase in aggressive behaviour.

Yesterday Qantas confirmed a pilot - who was suspended three months ago after a wild fight in a Tokyo nightclub that left a cabin attendant in hospital - had recently been dismissed.

It is believed another cabin worker is now also under investigation, and has been stood down from work, after an alleged assault in Singapore, unrelated to the other incidents.

The Los Angeles altercation, in which kicks and punches were apparently exchanged, happened in a private lounge area at the Bonaventure Hotel.

Qantas's head of customer service, Lesley Grant, said management had "returned the people involved" to Sydney and they had been suspended from duty.

"We are conducting a formal investigation," she said. "Qantas takes a firm line on any allegation of misconduct and a full inquiry will be conducted."

The head of the international division of the Flight Attendants Association of Australia, Michael Mijatov, declined to comment on the matter.

However, the union's website reveals continuing staff grievances over recent changes in accommodation in a number of overseas ports, including the Bonaventure Hotel, which some workers say is in an unseemly part of town with high crime.

The Tokyo brawl happened over the Easter weekend in March. The incident resulted in a flight being cancelled, while another service was delayed by 90 minutes.

Caption :CARTOON: by CATHY WILCOX



Headline: Fight path grounds Qantas cabin crew
Author: Darren Goodsir
Edition: First
Section: News and Features
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Old 16th Jun 2005, 00:11
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Captain Sacked

For everyone's information and I realise this is a little off topic:

The Captain at the centre of the Narita punch-up incident has been dismissed!

Guess a lot will be eating humble pie now....!
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Old 16th Jun 2005, 00:35
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Really?

So why is his name still in the CIS e-mail contact list?
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Old 16th Jun 2005, 00:48
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Why mention it.....tow truck

Why mention it if you can't say what happened in this great reportable incident ?
Was it the Thai crew member who has the SYD CSS on sexual harrasment in the conversation or just the same old bag the crap out of LHR base because you can.
Maybe it was the detour around Manchester story another fool made up? How about the 4 Aus crew who were sacked in LHR? No, please facts only no more BS tow truck, still can't see what all the fuss is about.
Contractors have a 11 month contract, contract finishes and the deal in completed as per the contract. Was the contract cut short = no, were they told it was a contract for 11 months = yes, were they told it was a full time job = no. Most returned to the airport jobs and MAM casual.
Funny did you know most of the mam casuals who did the 11 month contract were the casuals trained to work in our industrial dispute 3 years ago and would of scabbed on L/H at the drop of a hat back then.
Why is it most Aus based crew think crew came to LHR for the company, I came here for myself, I couldn't give a crap about the company.
I have a small export business in Thailand and have family in England.
I weighed it up like this, 2 years going to the places I want to or fighting a loosing battle at home flying to nowhere.
The company would of opened the base with 100% UK nationals, so it suited me for 2 years to go to LHR,
Fact, of the 180 UK hired crew, 70% are aussies with Uk passports or family history enabling a work visa.
Nothing against my home port just have to play the game with the cards your delt and not the ones you wish or I'd be back home in a flash.
Just my thoughts on a few things.
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Old 16th Jun 2005, 00:55
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do they know Peanut pusher?

I hope the company knows about your extra curricula activities.Company policy requires that you inform them.If you haven`t you will be in trouble you naughty boy
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Old 16th Jun 2005, 02:31
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Funny you say that

Put it in writing and submitted it!!!
Didn't hear a thing for months and finally I followed it up and they couldn't of cared less. I surpose if I was working part time for another airline it would be differant.
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Old 16th Jun 2005, 05:18
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Anyone heard whether this extra crew member in economy on the 747-400's is a possiblity?
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Old 16th Jun 2005, 08:35
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Its Possible

But not probable.Fuel cost blowouts mean that QF is looking for more cost cuts.An extra crew member is an added cost they can currently do without.
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Old 16th Jun 2005, 16:49
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Late Arrival

Bit Late Bizzi Boi.This was done about 6 posts ago
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Old 16th Jun 2005, 20:47
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STR

hey str
if you are as pro active as you say you are with the media -why not ring this journo from the SYD morning herald -direct him to this website (and the AO EBA thread) and this particular post. there are probably at least 3 stories sitting here waiting with the copy already written!
he doesn't appear to be a Qantas "cash for comment " lacky yet.


towtruck...you're starting to sound like part of the problem....

galleyhag is right -the theme we have to develop is THE RETURN of jobs to Australian shores - to achieve this we have to be prepared to trade off. L/H crew have to become more competitive in the market place. This can be achieved without giving away our jobs to third world competitors. We'll cancel New Zealand's global debt -but don't give them our Y/C positions!!

I heard 14 kiwis quit en mass this week - what have we got to do to convince the others to fly with Air New Zealand??
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Old 16th Jun 2005, 23:49
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F Mod - Do you have a name of the journo? Will definately contact them..AGAIN! I have already been mailing them daily, as I said before, QF have a big advertising budget and the papers don't want to risk losing advertising $$$

Its not just me who should be doing this though, everyone who is not happy with the exportation of our jobs needs to write also.

Agree with Galleyhag too, we have to agree to trade off conditions to keep jobs onshore.
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Old 17th Jun 2005, 00:22
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Firepussy,

Just thought I would make it clear.

The posting I put up was actually an extract from the Sydney Morning Herald Newspaper website dated June 16th.

We are ALL aware of the incident and aware info was posted 6 posts ago as you stated Firepussy. But I was bringing to ppl's attention the fact it has hit the newspapers and interesting to hear the media perspective.

Hope that makes things a little clearer that I wasn't thinking I had fresh info *yawn*

Anyone who wants to know the name of the journo from SMH, his name is Darren Goodsir.

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Old 17th Jun 2005, 00:51
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Bizzi_Boi

I think you may have a reading disability the previous post is the one from the Hearld and it clearly states the author.
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Old 17th Jun 2005, 00:57
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"F" module

before you make comments that LH crew are not competetive in ther international market, pls do your home work. i can assure after doing my home work qf lh crew are extremely competetive.
even after all the cuts the US carriers had qf lh crew are still cheaper then their lowest no frills carrier. i dont want to even think about all the european carriers, which most have much higher wages and a fully funded government pension plan. asian carriers (sq, cp) are not much different, they may have a slightly smaller wage scale but get a lower tax rate, more crew, full health benefits and many other subsidies and pensions. other carriers like malaysian, garuda, southern china are part of developing countries and get heaviliy subsidised by their respective governments. we will never ever be able to compete with those carriers. air new zealand cabin crew earns less then qf lh crew but significantly more then qf akl based crew (thats why every time there is an opening now in air nz akl based qf lh jump)and it took one mr. norris (new head of COM bank) to bring back the airline from a total disaster (guess who had a major input in that disaster, yes one lesley grant, shadowed as always by a certain julie lampert-whatever). and most of you would have noticed qf has been the dumping ground of all those managers from ba and an/air nz which got retrenched, fired because of their incomptence. aren,t we lucky in qf.
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Old 17th Jun 2005, 20:43
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mam non paid standby

do any mamers out there have a view on the new av status.ie if you elect to work an a day when qf forcast they dont need you and you then decide say the night before or on the day that since its not happening you want to change to a day off qantas now asks for 48 hrs notice. i just cant help that think that qantas are now by combining paid reserve span with lots of new casuals so,thin work therefore many will elect av status/unpaid standby,justifyed before by an offer of work being made/ to achieve work cause with 12 day compulsary mthly staggered its more difficult to get a 2nd job to generalise so,are qantas getting reserve for free????that is min 48 hrs on a percentile of staff in casuals for free? may be bizzi boy what i was refering to on a prev.post. any views would be valued..thanx cheers gigs typist try hard.
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yow midnight youll be right just try reading real hard
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Old 18th Jun 2005, 01:14
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Check PM

Gigs,

Check your private msg's.

Cheers,

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