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Old 14th Jun 2005, 13:23
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Jettlager

For a moment there I thought you meant you paid FOR THE BUS! FOR GODS SAKE, DON'T TELL THAT ONE TO QANTAS!

Regarding the rest of your post, so true my friend, so true...
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Old 14th Jun 2005, 14:46
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Anyway Mr Seatback

Who said anything about being in uniform? I may have changed out of my uniform and as company time finishes 15 minutes after the plane hits the blocks, I'm free to do as I please. Therefore THEY WOULD NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO SO. As for ‘boozy crew tumbling through the hotel lobby’. I'm not sure about you, maybe you don't drink, maybe you sit at home every night reading the annual report and books on being a brown nosing ladder climber with our pommy mate Kylie, but I’ll let you in on a little secret. 99% of adult males and females can consume 1 or even 2 standard drinks and still conduct themselves in a respectable manner, even drive a motor vehicle (which would be legal). Finally as for looking over my shoulder, I always do and I can smell people like you a mile off!

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Old 15th Jun 2005, 00:48
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I seriously doubt that qf will ever hire permanent FAs ever again
With attitudes like yours is that in any way surprising?

The OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of your colleagues agreed to the increase in offshore based crew only last year. That puts your radical view in the minority. Had everyone followed you at the last EBA they would all be unemployed now.

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Old 15th Jun 2005, 02:22
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Unemployed

...all unemployed now(?)and the airline would be closed now.
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Old 15th Jun 2005, 02:46
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Hold it Pro Golfer 69...

In my many years in both the airport and flying environment, I've yet to see crews find the time in the rush to clear customs, quarantine, etc. to change from their uniform into civvies. Not to say that it doesn't happen, of course, and you're right - if you're in civvies, different story.

But you failed to make this distinction didn't you. How on earth am I meant to determine whether or not you're in uniform from your most recent post?

"'Im not sure about you, maybe you don't drink, maybe you sit at home every night reading the annual report and books on being a brown nosing ladder climber with our pommy mate Kylie"
I see - resorting to personal attacks because I'm stating a fact. Clever.

"99% of adult males and females can consume 1 or even 2 standard drinks and still conduct themselves in a respectable manner, even drive a motor vehicle (which would be legal). Finally as for looking over my shoulder, I always do and I can smell people like you a mile off!"
Can they? I've met many crew in my career who are what you might call 'two pot screamers'. Perhaps mine can't hold their booze as well as you?

You don't have to worry about looking over your shoulder for me luvvy, there are plenty of others who YOU'VE got to watch out for.

Play the ball, not the player.
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Old 15th Jun 2005, 03:10
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would it not be fantastic if pacific blue were able to fly domestic runs in oz there by lowering virgins cost base and increasing profit.this in turn would make better bonus for their managers.it may however affect australians wanting to work for virgin as crew or even make some existing redundant!!!!!
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Old 15th Jun 2005, 03:50
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ooohhhhhhhh JBM........ you're back!
Here we go again folks, JBM has crawled out from under his rock, the doom and gloom starts once again..... is it a full moon?
...let the fun begin......
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Old 15th Jun 2005, 03:56
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QANTAS, Punchup in LAX

ok, another brawl in lax
This time it was in the crew room and I heard it was 2 Cabin crew and one Tech.
I know for a fact that they were paxed home, I know the names, one is a CSM, an Bfirst and an F/O, but what I dont know are the full details, anyone out there know the details.
Sorry cant state the names, but they are well known!
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Old 15th Jun 2005, 04:09
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Precious, who said anything about rushing through quarantine/customs blah blah. It’s not hard to whip your tie off and throw a jumper on! But hey, not being anal or anything, your right. There maybe a member of the public flying in a low level aircraft with a pair of binoculars who may see the Qantas logo on my belt buckle or maybe the CSM on the bus will come down to my seat and lift my top up to see if I’d taken my belt off, damm forgot about that! But then there’s my pants, but I’ve got a number of pairs of pants which are virtually identical in colour to the uniform, which in actual fact I use to fly in a lot of the time. Maybe the CSM on the bus is then going to ask me to undress so he can check the Qantas label on the inside of my pants. But hey we’re not being anal here are we? How about we use just a little bit of common sense here! Also one would assume that these people who you fly with who have this zero tolerance to alcohol probably would have the common sense not to have a drink on the bus. As for the so called personal attack I did say ‘maybe.’
Relax there big fella!
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Old 15th Jun 2005, 04:40
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I was totally unaware crew had drinks on the bus at Long Haul, over here at regional gezz you would be lined up in front of a firing squad if you even thought about doing that or even pulling a packet of smokes out of your bag in public so I can see where the different views on this matter arise.

Not having a go at anyone and if I could I would be the first one having a beer on the bus/taxi etc, however doesnt it state somewhere you cant consume alcohol in uniform (which you have explained you are not), on duty and on company property. Wouldnt the bus still be regarded as company property? They are afterall paying for it.

Not taking any sides here just interested, because if cabin crew management wanted a reason to take action against crew this would be handed to them on a plate.
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Old 15th Jun 2005, 05:16
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QfRegional you make a good point. Even though the company pays for the bus, they don’t own it, not in international slip ports anyway. Qantas may use their own buses domestically to transport crew, if this is the case you are correct. However if the bus driver of the transport company says no drinking on the bus, then there’s no drinking on the bus period! This often happens in LAX. Another point is that international crew are permitted to purchase alcohol off the duty free seller on board, obviously this does not occur on domestic sectors. Smoking is obviously not permitted at anytime on any crew bus.
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Old 15th Jun 2005, 05:26
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What, another one??
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Old 15th Jun 2005, 06:18
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CART ELEVATOR

Cart elevator,
Thanks for your insight on the LHR base, you have basically confirmed all that I have heard.
The Thai crew have been quite informative about you guys, but I take what they say with a grain of salt, as they are quite sneaky and they like to play all of us off against each other.
I have seen the LHR crews during handovers and I have never been rude to the "obvious" new recruits, but I see the ones that have transferred from AUS as traitors and I simply cannot bring myself to acknowledge them, especially the Short haul pursers.
Its true that the aircraft is in an appalling state when we board, so far everytime nothing is ordered and there are always meals left over in the ovens, and yes as much as you hate hearing this the PAX do have a good whinge to us!, what we found the other week is even worse, I cant state it here as a report has been sent in, but boy was there a F###k up and a half.( otherwise I can be identified.)
Anyway I understand why someone like yourself had to go over there and there are no hard feelings, what a shame we could not employ you here in Australia, Good luck to you in the future.
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Old 15th Jun 2005, 06:56
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you watch them bury this one like the NRT one....
did they sack the captain on the NRT punch-up! I bet you they didn't.
Its doing the rounds at work, apparently it was a beauty!, don't know the details yet!
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Old 15th Jun 2005, 07:35
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Bugger

Bugger, I ain't working till Saturday, but knowing the gossip mills in the galley I'm sure i'll find out something
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Old 15th Jun 2005, 08:20
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Wink

3somes rarely work out....when will these qf crew learn ?
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Old 15th Jun 2005, 09:19
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Whats a CSM, a chief sandwich maker?
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Old 15th Jun 2005, 09:26
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They manage everything that happens on board except the driving.
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Old 15th Jun 2005, 09:40
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Only a matter of time....

Three of us were watching the dynamic in the crew room a couple of weeks ago.The niggling over music,wine ,beer were evident .We thought then it would be only be a matter of time before things got out of hand.
These altercations are symptomatic of the pressure people are under.Instead of being able to beat the crap out of Dixon they are taking their frustrations out on each other.There are now so many subcultures amongst crew all with different opinions clashes are bound to occur.Since 911 the contact between pilots and CC is almost non existent.LAX is the only place in the world where we share a crewroom.Sadly this may be a promise of things to come.
Maybe if we put Dixon`s face on a punching bag.......
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Old 15th Jun 2005, 09:47
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so morale IS improving at QF then?
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