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Is it worth it?
Hi! After reading all this, and other negative threads about Qantas, I just wanted to ask the thousand-dollar question: Should I apply? I was brought up in an aviation family, so I'm not naive about airline politics, but I do want to be international CC, and Qantas seems my only choice.
I know that the interview/recruitment process can be long and frustrating, but if I ever made it into the company would I hate it? Seems like QF are chasing the bottom line, so does that make it an unhappy copmany to work for? Any thoughts would be much appreciated!
I know that the interview/recruitment process can be long and frustrating, but if I ever made it into the company would I hate it? Seems like QF are chasing the bottom line, so does that make it an unhappy copmany to work for? Any thoughts would be much appreciated!
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yow galley hag cant qualify the source or where from but,have heard that anderson has a financial interest in qantas through his other half so i would think another motive is at play in andersons comments.
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Betsy_1983 - even if you did apply to Qantas its highely unlikely you would get in unless you have a Thai, Kiwi or English passport.
Unfortunately the bean counters are outsourcing as many jobs as possible to overseas bases leaving no change of Australians getting a job with the national carrier.
The brand 'Qantas Spirit of Australia' is fast going down the dunny. Mate apply to Emirates or any other international carrier, get some experience. Hopefully when the current management (terms used very loosely) go, the new bosses will realise what a mess has been left and start hiring Australian's again.
About 150 fixed term flight attendants have been let go recently due to the opening of the London base (to be replaced by POMS).
Unfortunately the bean counters are outsourcing as many jobs as possible to overseas bases leaving no change of Australians getting a job with the national carrier.
The brand 'Qantas Spirit of Australia' is fast going down the dunny. Mate apply to Emirates or any other international carrier, get some experience. Hopefully when the current management (terms used very loosely) go, the new bosses will realise what a mess has been left and start hiring Australian's again.
About 150 fixed term flight attendants have been let go recently due to the opening of the London base (to be replaced by POMS).
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QF LHR Base Closure
Well it’s all but official. The London cabin crew base will close at the end of 2 years once the Australian based cabin crew contracts expire. A spiraling of costs in the running of the base primarily due to the inability, due to British duty time limitations for cabin crew to roster staff more then 200 hours per bid period has resulted in a major cost blow out. Major continuing inconsistencies in service and administrative costs are also believed to be a factor The cost of running the base is believed to be currently nearly 3 times more then if the patterns were built and flown out of Australia. It is also known that some management would like to see the base closed earlier but the cost to pay out contracts, reallocate crew etc, etc would be too great.
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Don't tease me!
I must admit I have heard the rumuors as well.
I don't think they will worry about the Australians that have gone over there if they wanted to close it down they wouldn't even give the Australians contractors a second thought.
If it does happen the Aussies over there wil truly be up sh1t creek, with the surplus crew in LH and SH there is no way they will be able to come back early.
Intersesting times are on their way.......
I must admit I have heard the rumuors as well.
I don't think they will worry about the Australians that have gone over there if they wanted to close it down they wouldn't even give the Australians contractors a second thought.
If it does happen the Aussies over there wil truly be up sh1t creek, with the surplus crew in LH and SH there is no way they will be able to come back early.
Intersesting times are on their way.......
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Friends in the know are acknowledging that the cost savings hoped for from the LHR base have evaporated and that cost blowouts are impacting on the base`s longevity.
Some number crunchers are going to be out of a job after this monumental stuff up.All this angst and drama for nothing.Kingrat will not be happy...no incentive bonus.Does this mean that "they" owe the company money?
Some number crunchers are going to be out of a job after this monumental stuff up.All this angst and drama for nothing.Kingrat will not be happy...no incentive bonus.Does this mean that "they" owe the company money?
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From what I understand, the 200 hour figure is correct. However the CAA regulation is that a cabin crew member will not exceed 200 duty hours in a contiuous 28 day period. I think someone must have misinterpreted this as 200 hours per roster - a huge difference....
Back to the drawing board for this rumour!!
Back to the drawing board for this rumour!!
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I agree as well,GD and the board would have to answer questions from shareholders at the next AGM which I think he would be reluctant to do
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can anyone help me out with a number i can contact recruitment on? i was sent an invitation for a medical and one for a security check, yet the security check one didnt come through right... and i cant send off the 'attatched form'.
thanks
jess
thanks
jess
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QF UK RECRUITING !
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If QF are making job cuts why are they recruiting in the UK ?
I have applied and they called me yesterday - then emailed me with a questionnaire and emailed me again today to say they will be in touch within 10 days.... Not sure what to think really !.........
Also are Hudson not doing the recruitment anymore??.
Cheers and I hope UK base will be Ok there are some fantastic crew there..
If QF are making job cuts why are they recruiting in the UK ?
I have applied and they called me yesterday - then emailed me with a questionnaire and emailed me again today to say they will be in touch within 10 days.... Not sure what to think really !.........
Also are Hudson not doing the recruitment anymore??.
Cheers and I hope UK base will be Ok there are some fantastic crew there..
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How can 86hr slips in Sin be cost effective?Give me a break..someone hasn`t done their homework and has cocked up big time!!!
The reason QF(UK) is recruiting is because of the current attrition rate being higher than anticipated.
The reason QF(UK) is recruiting is because of the current attrition rate being higher than anticipated.
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There is no way GD will be happy with the slips LHR based crew are getting.We all know how much GD likes cabin Crew
I imagine they are a very temporary thing or the base will be!!
I imagine they are a very temporary thing or the base will be!!
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Qantas to Fly to Beijing Latest News
Sydney, 29 June 2005
Qantas today announced it would begin flying between Sydney and Beijing from 9 January 2006.
Qantas Executive General Manager John Borghetti said Qantas would initially operate three weekly services to Beijing and expected to offer daily flights to both Beijing and Shanghai within two years.
"We are delighted to return to Beijing, one of the world's great cities and host to the 2008 Olympic Games," Mr Borghetti said.
"Beijing will be an important destination for the Qantas network and these three weekly services, coupled with the start of a fourth Sydney-Shanghai service in November, will provide our customers with daily non-stop flights to China," he said.
"Travel between China and Australia has increased more than 40 per cent in the past three years and is expected to grow a further 20 per cent in the next 12 months.
"Within two years we expect to offer daily Qantas flights to both Beijing and Shanghai in response to the growing trade relationship between Australia and China and increasing demand for leisure travel in both directions.
"In addition, the Qantas Group currently operates 31 flights each week to Hong Kong," Mr Borghetti said. "This means Qantas passengers can access the rest of China via Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong and make connections with local carriers."
Qantas will continue to codeshare on China Eastern services between Sydney and Shanghai to provide a daily link for Qantas customers.
Mr Borghetti said Qantas' new two-class Airbus A330-300 aircraft would operate on all flights to China, allowing Business Class customers to experience the award-winning Skybed.
The new Beijing services are timed to suit customers connecting to and from Australian cities and New Zealand.
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Sydney, 29 June 2005
Qantas today announced it would begin flying between Sydney and Beijing from 9 January 2006.
Qantas Executive General Manager John Borghetti said Qantas would initially operate three weekly services to Beijing and expected to offer daily flights to both Beijing and Shanghai within two years.
"We are delighted to return to Beijing, one of the world's great cities and host to the 2008 Olympic Games," Mr Borghetti said.
"Beijing will be an important destination for the Qantas network and these three weekly services, coupled with the start of a fourth Sydney-Shanghai service in November, will provide our customers with daily non-stop flights to China," he said.
"Travel between China and Australia has increased more than 40 per cent in the past three years and is expected to grow a further 20 per cent in the next 12 months.
"Within two years we expect to offer daily Qantas flights to both Beijing and Shanghai in response to the growing trade relationship between Australia and China and increasing demand for leisure travel in both directions.
"In addition, the Qantas Group currently operates 31 flights each week to Hong Kong," Mr Borghetti said. "This means Qantas passengers can access the rest of China via Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong and make connections with local carriers."
Qantas will continue to codeshare on China Eastern services between Sydney and Shanghai to provide a daily link for Qantas customers.
Mr Borghetti said Qantas' new two-class Airbus A330-300 aircraft would operate on all flights to China, allowing Business Class customers to experience the award-winning Skybed.
The new Beijing services are timed to suit customers connecting to and from Australian cities and New Zealand.
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MAM to Fulltime at Qantas
So you're employed by MAM and get an application form from Qantas for full time employment. How often does Qantas put MAM flight attendants on and assuming that you have a good work record what are your chances? Do they also take into account how often you make yourself available?
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50 MAM casuals converted to permanent in early 2003 and 32 MAM casuals converted to permanent in July, 2005 that has been the total converted in the past 2.5 years.
Sorry cant help you with the other questions.
Sorry cant help you with the other questions.
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it seems that Qantas sends out these forms every year, it doesnt mean there will ever be an opportunity for full time work- i guess its just so they have a record of how many may be interested should they need to fill spots like the ones that were avail in Perth?? and im assuming your work record would definitely have some kind of bearing if it actually came to the point of offering F/T.
i dont personally think your amount of availability each month should have any bearing at all on your chances of being offered F/T should it come up. This is just my opinion, but i feel that if we have been employed as casuals, then we are casual-meaning we have the flexibility to work the days we choose- and after all thats wot we applied for. should the company decide that they have F/T positions to offer, then each person should be considered based on merit- not simply bcos they were happy to work every day god sends. i usually work 4/5 days a week, but i dont feel that it should give me any advantage over someone who works less, or disadvantage over someone who works 6 on 1 off.
a person may well be working only 3 days a week now, but speaking hypothetically, in a years time that same person may decide that if full time work was offered that they would be interested. in just the same way someone outside of Qantas may only be working part time or casually a few days each week, but may then decide that they want to work full time hours. situtations change. people have different reasons for applying for casual work, some are able to work alot, and others for various reasons (ie kids, other businesses, other commitments, lifestyle) work less. Should that stop them from being considered for full time work if they choose to apply- definitely not. but again...just my opinion!
it seems that Qantas sends out these forms every year, it doesnt mean there will ever be an opportunity for full time work- i guess its just so they have a record of how many may be interested should they need to fill spots like the ones that were avail in Perth?? and im assuming your work record would definitely have some kind of bearing if it actually came to the point of offering F/T.
i dont personally think your amount of availability each month should have any bearing at all on your chances of being offered F/T should it come up. This is just my opinion, but i feel that if we have been employed as casuals, then we are casual-meaning we have the flexibility to work the days we choose- and after all thats wot we applied for. should the company decide that they have F/T positions to offer, then each person should be considered based on merit- not simply bcos they were happy to work every day god sends. i usually work 4/5 days a week, but i dont feel that it should give me any advantage over someone who works less, or disadvantage over someone who works 6 on 1 off.
a person may well be working only 3 days a week now, but speaking hypothetically, in a years time that same person may decide that if full time work was offered that they would be interested. in just the same way someone outside of Qantas may only be working part time or casually a few days each week, but may then decide that they want to work full time hours. situtations change. people have different reasons for applying for casual work, some are able to work alot, and others for various reasons (ie kids, other businesses, other commitments, lifestyle) work less. Should that stop them from being considered for full time work if they choose to apply- definitely not. but again...just my opinion!
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Found this on another forum.
The 3 x a week QF15/16 PER-SIN-LHR-SIN-LHR will be dropped effective 25MAR to free up an aircraft to allow daily ops SYD-HKG-LHR-HKG-SYD.
The extra 3 x B744 flights on the SYD-HKG-SYD route will also see the 3 x a week A333 QF187/188 MEL-SYD-HKG-SYD-MEL cancelled from 25MAR as well.
Have heard that the B743 SYD-BOM-SYD flights will become A333 ops with a tech stop at DRW on the outbound sector, possibly as early as JAN06.
Interesting....
Rollz
The 3 x a week QF15/16 PER-SIN-LHR-SIN-LHR will be dropped effective 25MAR to free up an aircraft to allow daily ops SYD-HKG-LHR-HKG-SYD.
The extra 3 x B744 flights on the SYD-HKG-SYD route will also see the 3 x a week A333 QF187/188 MEL-SYD-HKG-SYD-MEL cancelled from 25MAR as well.
Have heard that the B743 SYD-BOM-SYD flights will become A333 ops with a tech stop at DRW on the outbound sector, possibly as early as JAN06.
Interesting....
Rollz