NETJETS Europe hiring again
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NETJETS Europe 2024
Hi guys, thanks for the good information posted on the forum. I was just wondering how long did netjet Europe took to answer to those who have recieved the video interview or presentation from Kura as mentioned on the threads here. I’m a turboprop experienced guy on the Atr. , two otter etc, Anyone who got the answer or joined the company in the past had same sort or experience or having jet time is the trick even if they don’t mention it on min requirements ? Thank yeeeer all.
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Brejojr The video section of the initial interview will be about specific NetJets questions. It's probably a fairly standard "tell us what you know about X company" (I think - I am not in recruitment). If you can, I would get someone to ask such questions to you so you can get more comfortable articulating your thoughts. This is pretty standard stuff for any interview.
Topperharley61 As you can imagine, Kura are pretty busy sifting through all the applications. I didn't have any jet time before joining. Multi pilot is essential though. Ideally an ATPL too. Stage 3 interviews are planned for Feb and March.
Topperharley61 As you can imagine, Kura are pretty busy sifting through all the applications. I didn't have any jet time before joining. Multi pilot is essential though. Ideally an ATPL too. Stage 3 interviews are planned for Feb and March.
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Brejojr The video section of the initial interview will be about specific NetJets questions. It's probably a fairly standard "tell us what you know about X company" (I think - I am not in recruitment). If you can, I would get someone to ask such questions to you so you can get more comfortable articulating your thoughts. This is pretty standard stuff for any interview.
Topperharley61 As you can imagine, Kura are pretty busy sifting through all the applications. I didn't have any jet time before joining. Multi pilot is essential though. Ideally an ATPL too. Stage 3 interviews are planned for Feb and March.
Topperharley61 As you can imagine, Kura are pretty busy sifting through all the applications. I didn't have any jet time before joining. Multi pilot is essential though. Ideally an ATPL too. Stage 3 interviews are planned for Feb and March.
thanks a ton man, I’ll keep a look out on my mail. I’m a multi pilot airplane driver as a captain on the atr fleet , so I really hope we get to hear something.
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From: Duit On Mon Dei
The interview and group exercises are pretty industry standard stuff. If you've done them before for an airline interview, then you should be reasonably familiar with the process. However, as you hopefully would have figured out, NetJets isn't an A to B airline. So I would think about the differences between the airlines and us. Safety is naturally our highest priority, but that's a given really. What do you think is important?
I do apologise for being vague, the recruiters want to see/hear your answers, not mine.
I do apologise for being vague, the recruiters want to see/hear your answers, not mine.
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On another note, I hear there are some online psychometric tests before the interview. Does anyone have advice on how we can best prepare for these, in order to demonstrate our top capacity with them?
Exciting times! Thank you
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I haven’t heard back yet, but I’m guessing they’re awfully busy sifting through a ton of applications, so patiently waiting for a green/red light.
On another note, I hear there are some online psychometric tests before the interview. Does anyone have advice on how we can best prepare for these, in order to demonstrate our top capacity with them?
Exciting times! Thank you
On another note, I hear there are some online psychometric tests before the interview. Does anyone have advice on how we can best prepare for these, in order to demonstrate our top capacity with them?
Exciting times! Thank you
Pyschometrics are not designed to catch you out and preparing for them or second guessing what you think they want to see can usually be spotted. Just relax, grab a cup or tea / coffee and read the instructions carefully before beginning. Usually you need to provide your first reaction rather than deliberating for too long over the answers.
Generally we recruit motivated crews who are willing to adapt and learn and who are not put off by interacting with our owners. On a day to day basis, the actual flying is a small part of what we do. It’s managing all the services (potentially in airports that neither crew member has been to before). So your problem solving, workload management, teamwork etc that you want to demonstrate if you get to the face-to-face parts.
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I haven’t heard back yet, but I’m guessing they’re awfully busy sifting through a ton of applications, so patiently waiting for a green/red light.
On another note, I hear there are some online psychometric tests before the interview. Does anyone have advice on how we can best prepare for these, in order to demonstrate our top capacity with them?
Exciting times! Thank you
On another note, I hear there are some online psychometric tests before the interview. Does anyone have advice on how we can best prepare for these, in order to demonstrate our top capacity with them?
Exciting times! Thank you
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Expect 2 group exercises on Day 1, if you are successful, you'll have Panel Interview, SIM, drug test and document check on Day 2. Both days are nicely organized.
One day later you will receive call/email from KURA whether you passed or not. I was lucky enough and I can't wait to start my career in NetJets.
Good luck everyone.
One day later you will receive call/email from KURA whether you passed or not. I was lucky enough and I can't wait to start my career in NetJets.
Good luck everyone.
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Hi Everyone,
This is my first post here on PPRuNe. Since I have only just started my pilot training, a self sponsored ATPL integrated course (For those of you for which that has been a while, it is a CPL + ATPL theory, ME, IR, PBN and MCC endorsements in my case), I am very unfamiliar with how most things work in the aviation industry. Also, please let me know if this post in any way infringes upon the guidelines here on the forum.
I want to thank everyone for the wealth of incredibly detailed information into both practical and personal aspects of being an (biz)aviator, with special thanks to Redsnail, Globally Challenged and EatMyShorts for their countless personal insights in this thread.
After digesting the whole thread, I am left with a whole lot of answers, but even more questions! I will (try) to keep it short and to the contents of this thread.
T.G.A.
P.S. Since this is my first post, I do not think it is possible to sent me a PM since I need three blog posts first according to my account page.
This is my first post here on PPRuNe. Since I have only just started my pilot training, a self sponsored ATPL integrated course (For those of you for which that has been a while, it is a CPL + ATPL theory, ME, IR, PBN and MCC endorsements in my case), I am very unfamiliar with how most things work in the aviation industry. Also, please let me know if this post in any way infringes upon the guidelines here on the forum.
I want to thank everyone for the wealth of incredibly detailed information into both practical and personal aspects of being an (biz)aviator, with special thanks to Redsnail, Globally Challenged and EatMyShorts for their countless personal insights in this thread.
After digesting the whole thread, I am left with a whole lot of answers, but even more questions! I will (try) to keep it short and to the contents of this thread.
- From my current understanding, it is not possible to join a company like NJ straight away when I finish my CPL, due to my lack of flight hours. I have not heard any of my students or teachers even mention biz aviation and things seem to work differently here than at so called regular airlines. How does one start in the biz aviation sector if companies require a certain set of hours (e.g. 1500TT)?
- I have read a lot on this thread about (temporary) gateways, and in regards to them, tax and social security implications. (25% income tax in portugal) + tax in your country of residence if there is a delta, and social contributions in your country of residence as well. Is it possible to live in Portugal too and have your gateway there? Or is it not advisable to do so?
- About type ratings, it sounds like NJ was hiring people for 3 specific plane types, is it possible to later switch to other plane types? If so, what are the implications of doing so (besides flying on a different plane ofcourse)?
T.G.A.
P.S. Since this is my first post, I do not think it is possible to sent me a PM since I need three blog posts first according to my account page.
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G'day TheGreenAviator,
1. Unfortunately no, NJE has in the past run a cadet scheme. It may return in the future but I suspect I'll be retired on the beach in Australia long before then. Most crews come to NJE (and other larger bizjet companies) from the military, smaller GA companies or the airlines. Most instructors in Europe have no idea about bizjets. It hasn't been on the employment radar until recently (as in the past 10 years). Most folks are under the illusion that if it's not Airbus or Boeing, it's not worth knowing. So, unless you are lucky and can get a start on a bizjet after flight school, then you'll probably start at an airline that takes low houred pilots. Get the experience and keep an eye on various job opportunities.
2. Temporary gateways etc, apply to NetJets Europe. Other companies have different set ups. You can live in Portugal if you want to work for NJE. Not a problem. Lisbon is a gateway. I can't remember if Faro is too, I think it opens up as a Summer gateway.
3. Yep, Depending on where you sit on the seniority list, you can fleet change as much as your seat lock and seniority number permits. Some fleets permit you to upgrade on it, naturally, they are the smaller fleets. For many, the sweetspot is the Latitude. APU, reasonable range, does US secondments and you can upgrade on it. However, all fleets have their pluses and minuses. Just ask any of us.
1. Unfortunately no, NJE has in the past run a cadet scheme. It may return in the future but I suspect I'll be retired on the beach in Australia long before then. Most crews come to NJE (and other larger bizjet companies) from the military, smaller GA companies or the airlines. Most instructors in Europe have no idea about bizjets. It hasn't been on the employment radar until recently (as in the past 10 years). Most folks are under the illusion that if it's not Airbus or Boeing, it's not worth knowing. So, unless you are lucky and can get a start on a bizjet after flight school, then you'll probably start at an airline that takes low houred pilots. Get the experience and keep an eye on various job opportunities.
2. Temporary gateways etc, apply to NetJets Europe. Other companies have different set ups. You can live in Portugal if you want to work for NJE. Not a problem. Lisbon is a gateway. I can't remember if Faro is too, I think it opens up as a Summer gateway.
3. Yep, Depending on where you sit on the seniority list, you can fleet change as much as your seat lock and seniority number permits. Some fleets permit you to upgrade on it, naturally, they are the smaller fleets. For many, the sweetspot is the Latitude. APU, reasonable range, does US secondments and you can upgrade on it. However, all fleets have their pluses and minuses. Just ask any of us.
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Hi Redsnail,
Thanks for the thorough reply.
TGA
Thanks for the thorough reply.
- I am sad to hear that it is hard to start out in the business aviation. Since I do not have hours in either category (biz or airline), the wasted time concept in one industry or another applies to a lesser degree to my situation. Indeed, so far, your comment regarding boeing and airbus seems true as well. Based on some comments earlier in this thread, I feel like the lifestyle of biz aviation (that you and a few others that seem to work there) fits me (even) better! Are you aware of any companies or employers where you can realistically start straight away after flight school? (If it is helpful, I have dutch citizenship and am willing to move anywhere globally)
- I looked up the taxation terms for living in portugal, since country of residence is fairly adaptable, I understand why some people choose to live outside of portugal and take the 25% flat fee.
- I am unfamiliar with the terms APU and US secondments, could you elaborate on those? Are there any specific type (ratings) that you recommend for a fresh graduate? If so, why those?
TGA
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Hi TGA,
- Netjets only hires experienced pilots (min 1500 hours total flight time - minimum 500 hours multi-crew with multi-engine flight time). However, many smaller operators that only have one or a few other smaller aircraft will hire beginner pilots. Salaries and conditions will most likely be miles off what better companies like Netjets or FlexJet offer. I assume that many operators will charge you for your first type rating, because they don't want new hires to head out the door again as soon as they have completed their minimum hours to apply elsewhere.
- Yes, taxation and social security take a huge chunk off of your gross salary, certainly more than 50%. Other countries, e.g. Germany, still do not tax you on top of the 25% tax at source in Portugal, but you still have to pay social security, which is also quite a sum of money.
- APU = Auxiliary Power Unit - that small noisy engine in the tail section of aircraft that is used to generate electricity and bleed air while the engines are switched off, usually on the ground. Makes life much more comfortable when you heat/cool your cabin and do not have to sit in the dark at night while waiting on the ground. US secondments = for the last few winter seasons Netjets Europe aircraft ferried over to the US to the help "The Mothership" (Netjets US) during their ultra busy days and season, namely Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year. It is quite interesting to operate those flights between the US, Central America and The Caribbean, it's something different than the dull European stuff.
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Hi EMS,
The minimum hour requirement you are referring to (I have also found it on ppjn), is that strictly in a biz jet of a type in the fleet of Netjets? Or are airline hours also counted in this? Would it be an advantage to have logged the hours on bizjet instead of lets say a 737 or 320?
In a few other threads I saw people mentioning some biz companies with as you stated, considerably lower T&C, but the opportunity to make a lot of flying hours in biz jets (e.g. Vistajet). Since from what I understand of those threads, you would fly 600-800BH/year there, you could work there for a year or two and then move on to a company that requires more experience to start in like NJ or FJ? I have no clue how and if that would affect habituation characteristics, what are your thoughts on that?
From what I have found out about airlines so far, it doesn’t seem like T&C (and more specifically pay) is much better starting out there, so unless you stumble upon a good starting airline, it seems like you would be stuck with low pay until you reach ATPL either way…
Interesting, taxation seems to work very differently than normal if you are employed in a different country. Can you recommend some countries that would be interesting to look up regarding their tax agreements with Portugal?
Oh wow indeed, the US secondments seem super interesting to do indeed.
Thank you for your insights so far!
Since I have reached my required posts to unlock PM, anyone, feel free to sent me one if you have questions (about/for me), or answer any my questions!
Please let me know if the questions go outside the guidelines in this thread.
Peace,
TGA
The minimum hour requirement you are referring to (I have also found it on ppjn), is that strictly in a biz jet of a type in the fleet of Netjets? Or are airline hours also counted in this? Would it be an advantage to have logged the hours on bizjet instead of lets say a 737 or 320?
In a few other threads I saw people mentioning some biz companies with as you stated, considerably lower T&C, but the opportunity to make a lot of flying hours in biz jets (e.g. Vistajet). Since from what I understand of those threads, you would fly 600-800BH/year there, you could work there for a year or two and then move on to a company that requires more experience to start in like NJ or FJ? I have no clue how and if that would affect habituation characteristics, what are your thoughts on that?
From what I have found out about airlines so far, it doesn’t seem like T&C (and more specifically pay) is much better starting out there, so unless you stumble upon a good starting airline, it seems like you would be stuck with low pay until you reach ATPL either way…
Interesting, taxation seems to work very differently than normal if you are employed in a different country. Can you recommend some countries that would be interesting to look up regarding their tax agreements with Portugal?
Oh wow indeed, the US secondments seem super interesting to do indeed.
Thank you for your insights so far!
Since I have reached my required posts to unlock PM, anyone, feel free to sent me one if you have questions (about/for me), or answer any my questions!
Please let me know if the questions go outside the guidelines in this thread.
Peace,
TGA
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Also, another topic all together, would it be smart to proactively approach Biz Av companies, while in the integrated ATPL course, like Netjets, Flexjet and VistaJet for input on how to proceed after obtaining my frozen ATPL if I want to be employed there? Or is this generally frowned upon in this sector of the industry?
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Cheers, TGA
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Cheers, TGA