NETJETS Europe hiring again
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Once you are a captain, the well known legacy carriers do. Lufthansa, BA, Air Chance etc. Of course, and this may be the interesting part: you may spend a lot of years on the right seat, while you can expect a rather quick upgrade in biz aviation - knock on wood! Let's hope that the current situation for biz aviation will stay on for a while, or even improve.
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Once you are a captain, the well known legacy carriers do. Lufthansa, BA, Air Chance etc. Of course, and this may be the interesting part: you may spend a lot of years on the right seat, while you can expect a rather quick upgrade in biz aviation - knock on wood! Let's hope that the current situation for biz aviation will stay on for a while, or even improve.
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Correct, at the moment upgrades happen much quicker than before - if the market stays this positive. But even at Lufthansa you will wait your 10+ (rather 15 to 20) years before you will get a chance for the left seat. On the smaller spinoffs (Eurowings, Discover etc) it is going to be quicker.
At least the money and benefits will be much better at legacy carriers while you are a first officer and you won't have to be in a hurry to save money for your pension.
At least the money and benefits will be much better at legacy carriers while you are a first officer and you won't have to be in a hurry to save money for your pension.
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I received an invitation from KURA to do the first online interview with them. There wasn't much information in that email as to what the interview is about other than that I'd need to reply to two questions and complete one task.
Can anyone please enlighten me on what this is all about in a little more detail? Are those two questions about my motivation, personality etc. or is it technical stuff? And what is the task to be completed? Is it some kind of test or quizz?
How would you prepare for this interview?
All helpful replies are greatly appreciated!
Can anyone please enlighten me on what this is all about in a little more detail? Are those two questions about my motivation, personality etc. or is it technical stuff? And what is the task to be completed? Is it some kind of test or quizz?
How would you prepare for this interview?
All helpful replies are greatly appreciated!
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I received an invitation from KURA to do the first online interview with them. There wasn't much information in that email as to what the interview is about other than that I'd need to reply to two questions and complete one task.
Can anyone please enlighten me on what this is all about in a little more detail? Are those two questions about my motivation, personality etc. or is it technical stuff? And what is the task to be completed? Is it some kind of test or quizz?
How would you prepare for this interview?
All helpful replies are greatly appreciated!
Can anyone please enlighten me on what this is all about in a little more detail? Are those two questions about my motivation, personality etc. or is it technical stuff? And what is the task to be completed? Is it some kind of test or quizz?
How would you prepare for this interview?
All helpful replies are greatly appreciated!
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I might have overlooked it here (it's a really long thread!), but I'm missing some important information regarding social security etc.:
If I understood this correctly, NJE pilots have to pay a 25% tax on their salary in Portugal. The amount after that deduction might have to be taxed again (at least for the difference to that 25% which has been taxed in Portugal) in the country of residence of the individual pilot.
What about health insurance and retirement fund payments (=social security)? Does NJE offer a health insurance which is also valid during the off days when at home? Does the company have a plan for retirement fund payments?
Social security is a big chunk which in some countries takes away even more from a gross salary than the regular taxes do, depending on which country one lives in. When I read here that some first year F/Os have grossed over a 100000€ I'd be tempted to ask what the NET amount was after deduction of the country of residence's tax, social security payment and possibly additional health insurance?
If I understood this correctly, NJE pilots have to pay a 25% tax on their salary in Portugal. The amount after that deduction might have to be taxed again (at least for the difference to that 25% which has been taxed in Portugal) in the country of residence of the individual pilot.
What about health insurance and retirement fund payments (=social security)? Does NJE offer a health insurance which is also valid during the off days when at home? Does the company have a plan for retirement fund payments?
Social security is a big chunk which in some countries takes away even more from a gross salary than the regular taxes do, depending on which country one lives in. When I read here that some first year F/Os have grossed over a 100000€ I'd be tempted to ask what the NET amount was after deduction of the country of residence's tax, social security payment and possibly additional health insurance?
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so does the company fire you? Or do they put you on another fleet?
It’s important to know as imagine you get fired and now you’re unemployed. It becomes a big risk.
That could be very messy very quick.
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I'll answer a few of those questions. I live in the UK so my financial set up is relatively simple - for now. (I pay tax and social securty in the UK, not Portugal).
Health insurance is BUPA. It's available 24/7/365 for you and qualifying family members.
There is a pension scheme. It's very straight forward in the UK but the continental one seems to be a lot more complicated tax efficiency/punishment wise.
Instead of a percentage of your pay and you topping it up. You get a 60% match up to your input of €13K. You are able to pay in more.
UK permits the payments to come out of gross salary (hence tax efficient).
The questions about FOs pay etc is very individual and is dependent on many variables such as flight demand and what option the individual has taken.
Health insurance is BUPA. It's available 24/7/365 for you and qualifying family members.
There is a pension scheme. It's very straight forward in the UK but the continental one seems to be a lot more complicated tax efficiency/punishment wise.
Instead of a percentage of your pay and you topping it up. You get a 60% match up to your input of €13K. You are able to pay in more.
UK permits the payments to come out of gross salary (hence tax efficient).
The questions about FOs pay etc is very individual and is dependent on many variables such as flight demand and what option the individual has taken.
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From: Italy
Hi guys,
Regarding this latest recruitment from Kura, did you receive an email acknowledgement that your application was submitted?
I’d also be curious to hear more or less how long it took to receive a positive/negative reply regarding the next step - which I believe is an online selection stage, from what I’ve read here.
I’m trying to plan on how I can make the Feb/Mar in-person selection, if I get that far.
Thank you for the insight, I appreciate the solidarity in what seems like a competitive assessment for a great employer!
Regarding this latest recruitment from Kura, did you receive an email acknowledgement that your application was submitted?
I’d also be curious to hear more or less how long it took to receive a positive/negative reply regarding the next step - which I believe is an online selection stage, from what I’ve read here.
I’m trying to plan on how I can make the Feb/Mar in-person selection, if I get that far.
Thank you for the insight, I appreciate the solidarity in what seems like a competitive assessment for a great employer!
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From: Home Counties
This is actually quite concerning, so you leave your current airline job go to do the type rating with the Phenom 300 and you’re failed before you start.
so does the company fire you? Or do they put you on another fleet?
It’s important to know as imagine you get fired and now you’re unemployed. It becomes a big risk.
That could be very messy very quick.
so does the company fire you? Or do they put you on another fleet?
It’s important to know as imagine you get fired and now you’re unemployed. It becomes a big risk.
That could be very messy very quick.
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From: Europe
Hi guys,
Received today a email from Kura asking me to complete a one-way video interview, any feedback from this one? what should I expect?
I know that this question was made before, just trying my luck
Thanks in advance.
Received today a email from Kura asking me to complete a one-way video interview, any feedback from this one? what should I expect?
I know that this question was made before, just trying my luck
Thanks in advance.
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From: Germany
I might have overlooked it here (it's a really long thread!), but I'm missing some important information regarding social security etc.:
If I understood this correctly, NJE pilots have to pay a 25% tax on their salary in Portugal. The amount after that deduction might have to be taxed again (at least for the difference to that 25% which has been taxed in Portugal) in the country of residence of the individual pilot.
What about health insurance and retirement fund payments (=social security)? Does NJE offer a health insurance which is also valid during the off days when at home? Does the company have a plan for retirement fund payments?
Social security is a big chunk which in some countries takes away even more from a gross salary than the regular taxes do, depending on which country one lives in. When I read here that some first year F/Os have grossed over a 100000€ I'd be tempted to ask what the NET amount was after deduction of the country of residence's tax, social security payment and possibly additional health insurance?
If I understood this correctly, NJE pilots have to pay a 25% tax on their salary in Portugal. The amount after that deduction might have to be taxed again (at least for the difference to that 25% which has been taxed in Portugal) in the country of residence of the individual pilot.
What about health insurance and retirement fund payments (=social security)? Does NJE offer a health insurance which is also valid during the off days when at home? Does the company have a plan for retirement fund payments?
Social security is a big chunk which in some countries takes away even more from a gross salary than the regular taxes do, depending on which country one lives in. When I read here that some first year F/Os have grossed over a 100000€ I'd be tempted to ask what the NET amount was after deduction of the country of residence's tax, social security payment and possibly additional health insurance?
On top you will have BUPA, international (without USA, only emergency) private health insurance for yourself and family members that's accessible 24/7/365. The company offers a pension plan and will match contributions to a certain level if you choose to partake in the scheme.
Regarding net salary, that setup results in some more or less favorable countries depending where you are in the salary bracket.
Germany for example has relatively high deductions for an FO just starting out as the annual gross is just at the social security cutoff point, so you pay 25% PT tax + 20%ss which is more than a regular german employee would pay at the same salary. However after one full year together with the productivity reward that will change in your favor as now the 25% PT Tax is less than the german tax, germany doesn't double tax and social security is capped at the max absolute contribution. You now have more net than a normal german employee at the same salary.
So as you see there are no blanket statements regarding net pay, you need to do your homework to work out how all of this plays out where you want to live. As a tip, google for a tax calculator for the country you are interested in, put in the gross salary but only look for the social security bit in result. Then, take the NJ gross, deduct 25%, deduct the social security figure from the calculator amd you should have a pretty good ballpark figure of the net pay in that country.
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From: Spain
Hi guys,
Regarding this latest recruitment from Kura, did you receive an email acknowledgement that your application was submitted?
I’d also be curious to hear more or less how long it took to receive a positive/negative reply regarding the next step - which I believe is an online selection stage, from what I’ve read here.
I’m trying to plan on how I can make the Feb/Mar in-person selection, if I get that far.
Thank you for the insight, I appreciate the solidarity in what seems like a competitive assessment for a great employer!
Regarding this latest recruitment from Kura, did you receive an email acknowledgement that your application was submitted?
I’d also be curious to hear more or less how long it took to receive a positive/negative reply regarding the next step - which I believe is an online selection stage, from what I’ve read here.
I’m trying to plan on how I can make the Feb/Mar in-person selection, if I get that far.
Thank you for the insight, I appreciate the solidarity in what seems like a competitive assessment for a great employer!