NETJETS Europe hiring again
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Well, I thought they were offered to start on the NJE-contract as F/Os in line with seniority? I know, it wasn't a nice move, but I am not sure if anyone was really made redundant. I am sorry for what has happened to these colleagues.
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Why am I not impressed.. Is this really all you get as a Captain with NJE or it it not really up-to-day (I hope not!)?
UPDATED 21/Aug/21??
Why am I not impressed.. Is this really all you get as a Captain with NJE or it it not really up-to-day (I hope not!)?
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UPDATED 21/Aug/21??
Why am I not impressed.. Is this really all you get as a Captain with NJE or it it not really up-to-day (I hope not!)?
UPDATED 21/Aug/21??
Why am I not impressed.. Is this really all you get as a Captain with NJE or it it not really up-to-day (I hope not!)?
Dodgy tax agreements where a pilot being based in certain countries can pay minimal tax doesn’t help matters either. It means a €100,000 salary is really like earning €140,000 in a country where the tax system operates normally. So again, they can fill seats.
The US doesn’t have a cheap source of labor so wages are now high.
It’s just a sh***y industry, really.
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No, it’s not, they get more. But how much should a European captain be paid? We don’t get paid enough, that’s for sure. But unfortunately there’s an abundance of pilots and none of the companies need to pay top dollar to fill seats, especially when they don’t really care about quality. It’s not helped when these seats can be filled by eastern European pilots for whom these salaries (in their homeland) are enormous. But then cheap Eastern European labor has always suppressed wages in the more affluent EU countries (see UK and Brexit for details - haulage, construction etc…) so this is nothing new.
It’s just a sh***y industry, really.
It’s just a sh***y industry, really.
Klimax if you scroll up, look for another post of mine, I had explained the salary system in more detail. The salaries that are listed at PPJN (great that they are back!) are only starting salaries that will be corrected for inflation every single year, plus a significant performance bonus payment on top. We have Phenom captains exceeding 230,000 EUR a year.
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NJE does not employ "cheap pilots" from "Eastern Europe". But I do agree that aviation has become a shi*tty industry, luckily we still have some nice conditions at NJE. Money is not everything in life. You also need time off work to spend your money and to see your families and friends.
Klimax if you scroll up, look for another post of mine, I had explained the salary system in more detail. The salaries that are listed at PPJN (great that they are back!) are only starting salaries that will be corrected for inflation every single year, plus a significant performance bonus payment on top. We have Phenom captains exceeding 230,000 EUR a year.
Klimax if you scroll up, look for another post of mine, I had explained the salary system in more detail. The salaries that are listed at PPJN (great that they are back!) are only starting salaries that will be corrected for inflation every single year, plus a significant performance bonus payment on top. We have Phenom captains exceeding 230,000 EUR a year.
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NJE does not employ "cheap pilots" from "Eastern Europe". But I do agree that aviation has become a shi*tty industry, luckily we still have some nice conditions at NJE. Money is not everything in life. You also need time off work to spend your money and to see your families and friends.
Klimax if you scroll up, look for another post of mine, I had explained the salary system in more detail. The salaries that are listed at PPJN (great that they are back!) are only starting salaries that will be corrected for inflation every single year, plus a significant performance bonus payment on top. We have Phenom captains exceeding 230,000 EUR a year.
Klimax if you scroll up, look for another post of mine, I had explained the salary system in more detail. The salaries that are listed at PPJN (great that they are back!) are only starting salaries that will be corrected for inflation every single year, plus a significant performance bonus payment on top. We have Phenom captains exceeding 230,000 EUR a year.
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Well, it may not be 10 to 15 years for our new hires to become captains. The last 12 years have been largely a stagnating time, but we are now providing all of our senior F/Os a chance to have a go for their upgrade examinations. Also, the F/O salary of 58,500 EUR pa is just a base salary. You can easily add 15,000 to 40,000 EUR as bonus, if we continue to be busy as we are now.
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Well, it may not be 10 to 15 years for our new hires to become captains. The last 12 years have been largely a stagnating time, but we are now providing all of our senior F/Os a chance to have a go for their upgrade examinations. Also, the F/O salary of 58,500 EUR pa is just a base salary. You can easily add 15,000 to 40,000 EUR as bonus, if we continue to be busy as we are now.
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Good morning all,
A quick question to those guys n' gals currently working for the company. Do you know if NETJETS offer any dispensation re: hours to ex-mil pilots? I'm an FJ mate and trying to plan for the future.
I'm about to finish up getting my Frozen ATPL and start looking to transition out of the Mil. Any advice you could offer would be massively appreciated! Happy to chat over PM if that's easier (If my account allows it).
Cheers,
GN
A quick question to those guys n' gals currently working for the company. Do you know if NETJETS offer any dispensation re: hours to ex-mil pilots? I'm an FJ mate and trying to plan for the future.
I'm about to finish up getting my Frozen ATPL and start looking to transition out of the Mil. Any advice you could offer would be massively appreciated! Happy to chat over PM if that's easier (If my account allows it).
Cheers,
GN
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Good morning all,
A quick question to those guys n' gals currently working for the company. Do you know if NETJETS offer any dispensation re: hours to ex-mil pilots? I'm an FJ mate and trying to plan for the future.
I'm about to finish up getting my Frozen ATPL and start looking to transition out of the Mil. Any advice you could offer would be massively appreciated! Happy to chat over PM if that's easier (If my account allows it).
Cheers,
GN
A quick question to those guys n' gals currently working for the company. Do you know if NETJETS offer any dispensation re: hours to ex-mil pilots? I'm an FJ mate and trying to plan for the future.
I'm about to finish up getting my Frozen ATPL and start looking to transition out of the Mil. Any advice you could offer would be massively appreciated! Happy to chat over PM if that's easier (If my account allows it).
Cheers,
GN
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Hi,
- With the salary numbers mentioned above, those where from a couple of years ago. Is it true that they are adjusted for inflation?
- for the present selection, does someone know what kind of simulator they use? 737, private jet,.. what is the profile they expect you to fly?
thanks in advance,
A
- With the salary numbers mentioned above, those where from a couple of years ago. Is it true that they are adjusted for inflation?
- for the present selection, does someone know what kind of simulator they use? 737, private jet,.. what is the profile they expect you to fly?
thanks in advance,
A
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Hi,
- With the salary numbers mentioned above, those where from a couple of years ago. Is it true that they are adjusted for inflation?
- for the present selection, does someone know what kind of simulator they use? 737, private jet,.. what is the profile they expect you to fly?
thanks in advance,
A
- With the salary numbers mentioned above, those where from a couple of years ago. Is it true that they are adjusted for inflation?
- for the present selection, does someone know what kind of simulator they use? 737, private jet,.. what is the profile they expect you to fly?
thanks in advance,
A
Sims were using a Hawker 800, might've changed to a different jet. Certainly wont be a boeing or airbus. raw data, take off/landing, non-normal notec skills for an event. They used to pair you with a NJ captain, to assist and be your 'first officer' - not sure if thats still the case. No tricks in the sim. You'd be briefed on the basics of flying that type prior to the sim.
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Correct, those who have been the company for the last year would've had a 10.21% rise in basic. Because the latest round of recruitment identifies a 2 year rise basic to 80K implies that anyone know joins will have their inflation-corrected basic pay backdated to 2018. But you'll still come in the first year at 58.5. I grossed around 120K with added days etc in year 1.
Sims were using a Hawker 800, might've changed to a different jet. Certainly wont be a boeing or airbus. raw data, take off/landing, non-normal notec skills for an event. They used to pair you with a NJ captain, to assist and be your 'first officer' - not sure if thats still the case. No tricks in the sim. You'd be briefed on the basics of flying that type prior to the sim.
Sims were using a Hawker 800, might've changed to a different jet. Certainly wont be a boeing or airbus. raw data, take off/landing, non-normal notec skills for an event. They used to pair you with a NJ captain, to assist and be your 'first officer' - not sure if thats still the case. No tricks in the sim. You'd be briefed on the basics of flying that type prior to the sim.
Any idea on how much extra work you did to get to that number? Just so we have an indication on how the 'overtime' stuff is calculated.
Thanks!
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It’s likely to be whichever one is available on the day. The instructors will likely not be rated on whatever it is so you won’t be able to impress them with your knowledge of limitations / memory items etc.
It’s a relatively low key event so don’t sweat it.
It’s a relatively low key event so don’t sweat it.
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Hello all,
Does anyone know when Kura/NJs will be next hiring? I seem to remember something about September and from LinkedIn it was Mid August last year so maybe same this year….
there should be a lot of aircraft arriving Phenoms and Praetor’s so hopefully a need for lots of Pilots.
just curious if there has been any chatter
Does anyone know when Kura/NJs will be next hiring? I seem to remember something about September and from LinkedIn it was Mid August last year so maybe same this year….
there should be a lot of aircraft arriving Phenoms and Praetor’s so hopefully a need for lots of Pilots.
just curious if there has been any chatter