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Noyade 3rd Mar 2021 02:22


Originally Posted by India Four Two (Post 11000216)
I can only find twelve names. Were the other two unnamed?

I have...
  1. Ensign
  2. Egeria (was to be transferred to India Trans-Continental Airways as Ellora - but prevented by the outbreak of war)
  3. Elsinore
  4. Euterpe
  5. Explorer
  6. Eddystone
  7. Ettrick
  8. Empyrean
  9. Elysian
  10. Euryalus
  11. Echo
  12. Endymion
  13. Everest
  14. Enterprise.
But Ensign was enough for me - over to you India.

India Four Two 3rd Mar 2021 09:34

Thanks Noyade,

A very elegant-looking aircraft but I wonder if the fin was large enough for the engine-out cases.

Sorry, no new cockpit photos in my Quizzes folder, so Open House.


Self loading bear 9th Mar 2021 17:14

To fill the Open House:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0f0dd29d7.jpeg

asw28-866 9th Mar 2021 21:03

Is the image reversed perhaps?

Self loading bear 9th Mar 2021 21:36


Originally Posted by asw28-866 (Post 11005407)
Is the image reversed perhaps?

No, the David Clark headset logo is readable.

Asturias56 10th Mar 2021 08:04

The brown striped cushion under the purple one is Sears Roebuck 1960's fabric - the best example is the recliner used by Frasier's dad in the TV series - not the height of designer chic........

India Four Two 10th Mar 2021 08:25

American homebuilt?

Self loading bear 10th Mar 2021 16:52


Originally Posted by India Four Two (Post 11005602)
American homebuilt?

American factory built

Self loading bear 10th Mar 2021 16:54


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11005584)
The brown striped cushion under the purple one is Sears Roebuck 1960's fabric - the best example is the recliner used by Frasier's dad in the TV series - not the height of designer chic........

Good to know that. I think however that the Sears Roebuck was already a second recover of the original.

Self loading bear 10th Mar 2021 17:03

The cushions in the front cockpit are in better shape

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4eed6545a.jpeg

Noyade 11th Mar 2021 02:11

New Standard D-25?

Self loading bear 11th Mar 2021 05:09


Originally Posted by Noyade (Post 11006258)
New Standard D-25?

Indeed, You have control.

Noyade 11th Mar 2021 10:13

Thank you SLB.

Should be easy....?


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d5b53ab0bd.jpg

Sideshow Bob 11th Mar 2021 19:40

Side by side seating pilot and wso, twin engine, 60s avionics; got to be a F1-11

Self loading bear 11th Mar 2021 21:00

To fill the time till 24 hrs:
I was looking in the thread
Aircraft with unusual landing gear configurations
This because of the indicator lights:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....fb9b48d5c.jpeg
No success, but I think we can post it there also:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e9945dc96f.png

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8daf35435.jpeg

Terry Dactil 12th Mar 2021 11:14

The F-111 gear:
Unusual arrangement, but it seems to work well. :ok:

Sideshow Bob 12th Mar 2021 13:02

I've always been fascinated by the F1-11 ejection capsule concept. It must of been a little strange for those who did eject.

Noyade 12th Mar 2021 20:16


Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob (Post 11006751)
Side by side seating pilot and wso, twin engine, 60s avionics; got to be a F1-11


Yep. All yours Bob. :ok:

Dunno why, but I was impressed with the coffee thermos embedded at the back....


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e2b45feeea.jpg

Sideshow Bob 12th Mar 2021 20:24

Open house

Sideshow Bob 19th Mar 2021 09:36

As no one has taken the open house invite, I'll offer this one up. It's a bit easy but the only one I have to hand.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0ab519db53.jpg

dixi188 19th Mar 2021 18:37

Wow. 90 degrees of bank. zero ft., 33 knots and total electrical failure.;)
No idea.

PEI_3721 19th Mar 2021 19:06

Looks like Smiths instruments, cross pointer FD, SEP 6 type AP servo indicator, large rad alt, twin turbo prop - red beta lights?
Square shutter system indicators.
Perhaps a 748, BA flight deck version and equipment.

or

Andover

Sideshow Bob 20th Mar 2021 21:13


Originally Posted by dixi188 (Post 11012276)
Wow. 90 degrees of bank. zero ft., 33 knots and total electrical failure.;)
No idea.

under normal conditions the aircraft would be between 200 to 500ft at 220kts and up to 60 degrees of bank. Definitely not a prop or a twin but sometimes flown as a twin.

sycamore 20th Mar 2021 22:59

issa helo ,or something like an Osprey(V-22)......?

India Four Two 21st Mar 2021 01:38

The altimeter sub-scale is millibars only, so definitely not American.

asw28-866 21st Mar 2021 02:53

No idea from the original image, but the clues have pointed me towards the Nimrod MR2.

Nothing to hand so OH I'm afraid if correct.

'866

Terry Dactil 21st Mar 2021 04:12

It looks like the Nimrod's AHs go to sleep on their side when not powered.
I wonder if that is an intentional feature?
Probably a great British design to go on one of the world's ugliest aircraft :E
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....990f06845b.jpg

Sideshow Bob 21st Mar 2021 16:05


Originally Posted by asw28-866 (Post 11013021)
No idea from the original image, but the clues have pointed me towards the Nimrod MR2.

Nothing to hand so OH I'm afraid if correct.

'866

It certainly is the P1 panel from the Mighty Hunter. There's a reason the horizon topples to 90 degrees; I could explain but it's been a long time and the flight instruments are not exactly straight forward (the picture is actually from the ground school Flight Instruments lesson slides!).

For those wondering about the 'flown as a twin' comment, The Speys (RB.168 Mk.250) were at their most efficient at 92% RPM so to keep them in that band on task, we'd shutdown (or idle) engines on task to conserve fuel (obviously dependent on AUW and Alt).

Noyade 22nd Mar 2021 07:48

Another...


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9f5bc482bc.jpg

Noyade 23rd Mar 2021 21:52

Fast.
Floater.
Italian.

Noyade 24th Mar 2021 07:26

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2e0fe2faff.jpg

Sideshow Bob 24th Mar 2021 14:02

The picture gives it away, it so looks like a Schneider Trophy aircraft. Built for the 1930 race but wasn't finished on time; did establish a speed record in 1934 though. My guess is the Macchi Castoldi MC-72. Open house if right.

Noyade 25th Mar 2021 22:41


Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob (Post 11015433)
Macchi Castoldi MC-72.
Open house if right.


That's him Bob. :ok:

Open House.

Self loading bear 26th Mar 2021 19:23

I found this cockpit in state of despair during restauration
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....54c094017.jpeg

Self loading bear 27th Mar 2021 17:51

Same type but completely different dashboard
(Other instruments as well)

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a3952c98a.jpeg

Self loading bear 28th Mar 2021 17:08

Not many takers or not many triggered?
The type was produced in single seat with high back and low back.
The two seater (I think) only as high back.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....800bfb1ad.jpeg

Asturias56 29th Mar 2021 08:18

VNE 400 mph - not a Biplane then?

UV 29th Mar 2021 15:19

A few strange things...

The Manifold Pressure gauge in the last pic is marked “2” meaning a multi engined aircraft. However the gauge in the other pic before is not so marked. I’m assuming it is a single engined aircraft, using a gash MP Gauge.

The speed limitations are placarded in MPH but the ASI is calibrated in knots. Surely not good practice?

VC (max cruise speed) is placarded as 270 MPH but the speed on the ASI (top of the green arc) is 280 Knots. A big difference....Is that right or have I got something wrong here?

So is it a high performance, single engine, American, Warbird type and tail wheel judging by the nose up attitude?

Self loading bear 29th Mar 2021 18:47

UV
I am sorry when I have let you off onto the wrong track.
With my remark of a completely different dashboard and instruments I was hoping you would concentrate on the surroundings of the cockpit and not the non-original instruments.
This particular aircraft has probably been completely renewed for instruments.
Original instruments were in different units and other alfabet.

I don’t know much about speeds, perhaps somebody else can shed a light on that after the type is revealed.

Yes, high performance, monoplane, war era, tail dragger
1 more different cockpit:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....79cff6436.jpeg

asw28-866 29th Mar 2021 23:47

Post 2196 gave away the lineage for me, looks distinctly Yakalov. As to which one, the high/low/ back, single/two-seat, sentence leads me to suggest, YAK-7.

'866


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