Is it British...?

Yes, it is, British to the core. It brought sunshine with it.

Just noticed this thread, but 1950's dials, 2 engines and an early bang seat. It is not a Meteor, so a Javelin or a Scimitar, but the 'sunshine' was to much of a clue!

I reckon it is a Scimitar. If correct then open house.

It surely is the Supermarine Scimitar! Capable of delivering the Red Beard can of instant sunshine. With flying colours you rationalized your way through it :ok:

Open house declared.

Edit: I ran into this picture a while back, carrying interesting set of weaponry.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9a9c1a4fde.jpg

Thank goodness I've been away on holiday - I now for once, have a proper challenge though given the amazing expertise here I have little hope it will last.
Not exactly mainstream this one - so fire away!


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Would it be an airship?

Obviously sitting in a carriage museum! Is the subject a seaplane?

I'm tickled that it is thought to be "sitting in a carriage museum". It is not, though there is one nearby.

Neither is it an airship. (probably too small to qualify for such a grand moniker)

Where you visiting Portugal?

Is it a flying boat?

Not a Portuguese design.
I 42, refer to post 2568.

I am in doubt between the Donnet Leveque flying boats (type a/b/c) and the FBA derivatives.
Cockpit layout seems to be the same for them.
With the horizontal spars just above the fuselage edges.

Or least I could not find different pictures.
Therefore I was trying to prope which museum you visited.
Perhaps you can give a clue in where the differences can be recognized?

Well, that's a very fine bit of sleuthing from SLB, I'd never heard of either Donnet Leveque or FBA before I encountred this beauty. I wouldn't have a scooby about their differences, sorry! I just saw this thing in a museum and thought, "hey, there's a rare one for the challenge". I might have known it wouldn't last long against some of the intellects here!

I imagine it is now merely a formality but I shall leave it to you (unless someone else beats you to it) to make the definitive judgment.

I say again, "it is not a Portuguese design".
There is a coach museum nearby.

That should do it!

Then I single out the FBA B in the Museu de Marinha in Lisbon.
With the National coach museum just a few blocks away.

And by the way, this was not an easy one. Keep them coming like that!

Correct, Lisbon Maritime Museum's Shreck FBA. Well done, there wasn't much to go on!

I wish I had more like that - I didn't expect to get a pic for this thread when I walked into the museum.

asw28, the carriage wheels you spotted are horse-drawn fire pumps or shore-rescue tenders of some sort.

Thanks Mel.

something just a bit newer:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9f73ecfc2.jpeg

I am not sure what to conclude
​​​​​​- nobody partaking
​​​​​​- no interest in small classic jets
- cropping was successful
I can only do something about the last:

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d37e84016.jpeg

A `Citation ` of one sort or another...?

another sort of

An e50 Phenom...?

Nope
Another sort of...
size wise you are a bit on the low side.

SLB,....thank you....but no-one complained..up to now.....!

I am not complaining either!
above and beyond!

Hawker 400 XP?

It is indeed an upgrade of the Hawker 400 but more recent than the XP.

So maybe a 400XPR then?

This cockpit is even more recent than the XPR.

USAF T-1A AMP? (Airforce trainer variant of Hawker 400 with upgraded avionics by Nextant corp.)

Nothing to hand so open house if correct.

That is the one!

EA200 can I give you the first opportunity to fill the open house?

I have nothing to hand either. Let's continue the OH.

Sort of a cockpit....




https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c9908dec43.png

How about Saab 18?

Fokker Mach Trainer?

Must be old, it's got Georgian windows.

Not Swedish or Dutch.

Wiki says nearly 80 years.

I suspect we are looking from front to rear of the crew nacelle (gondola) of a Blohm and Voss BV 141.

It is now obvious that my first quess pancaked. I ought to know better, as there was no head or tail in the answer.

Excellent puns sir! Now give me a name and I'll give ya control. :)

Thank you very much, but I am forced to declare OH as my cunning plan to match your ingenius angle of attack is still under construction.

And the ac in question is Vought V-173, the Flying pancake. Which btw would fit nicely in the UFO thread on jet blast. The flying saucers do exist!

Open house.

Just posting to confirm Beamr's kill - twas indeed the Vought V-173. :ok:


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8a4de31992.png


We have OPEN HOUSE.