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Asturias56 1st Apr 2024 08:16

seems hard to find a manual or a diagram

thnarg 1st Apr 2024 08:21


Originally Posted by bafanguy (Post 11627146)
If it's a fixed gear airplane, what is that lever on the overhead panel just above and left of the left throttle ?

Looks like the fuel system schematic and there’s a lever for each engine, each in a different position.

meleagertoo 1st Apr 2024 10:14

Some intrigueing sleuthing going on here - but what aircraft is the challenge cockpit from?

Noyade 1st Apr 2024 11:05


Originally Posted by meleagertoo (Post 11627368)
Some intrigueing sleuthing going on here - but what aircraft is the challenge cockpit from?

The Arava in a Mexican museum.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5ba84f0de0.jpg

bafanguy 1st Apr 2024 22:36


Originally Posted by thnarg (Post 11627299)
Looks like the fuel system schematic and there’s a lever for each engine, each in a different position.


Ah so...you have a sharp eye, Sir (or Madam as the case may be).

meleagertoo 5th Apr 2024 11:39

Over to Noyade.

Noyade 6th Apr 2024 05:02

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3d6fcf4cb4.jpg

Asturias56 6th Apr 2024 07:15

European?

Noyade 6th Apr 2024 22:10

No, USA.
This machine was flown by General Fechet and Captain Eaker.

ea200 6th Apr 2024 22:30

So a Loening Amphibian?

Noyade 7th Apr 2024 03:43

No.
It was General Fechet's aircraft.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Fechet

meleagertoo 7th Apr 2024 09:08

It's a Curtiss O1C Falcon.
The swept screen, fairing and distinctive twin rigging wires...

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0a7d07a506.png

Noyade 8th Apr 2024 05:38

That's him. Over to Mel.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....46941fd3fe.png

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a218c65ccc.jpg

meleagertoo 8th Apr 2024 09:08

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....59c64d6c37.png

Noyade 10th Apr 2024 00:22

"The war's largest plane never flew." - Nowarra.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siemens-Schuckert_R.VIII


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....31cfa6d5f2.jpg

meleagertoo 11th Apr 2024 12:29

Back to Noyade.

Noyade 11th Apr 2024 17:02

Open House 🏠

India Four Two 11th Apr 2024 21:01

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b4b70d0cc.jpeg

Asturias56 12th Apr 2024 07:29

Blowing up the photo I can see a possible reg # 6677 in top centre of the dashboard

The USAAF had aB17 44-6677 but its not that

and there was an N-6677 which was apparently a mid -70's BOWLING BENSEN GYROCOPTER Rotorcraft (?*I|?) and it doesn't look like that.

some of the military sites show several F-16's numbered with 66's and 77's but its not that either.

N American?



Asturias56 12th Apr 2024 07:36

Mach number dial up to Mach 1 - so subsonic - ish - probably a post war jet?

the Museum has a 25 year certificate of some sort on the wall on the right

no armament seems to be operable from the cockpit - so a trainer?

In fact nothing in the way of radar at all - so two seat? day time only?? pretty basic

Ombinda 12th Apr 2024 08:37

Is this in the National Museum of ASAF?

meleagertoo 12th Apr 2024 10:06

Pretty sure that's a C82a (not a C119) on the left and that narrows it down considerably so Wright Paterson seems the most likely location as the other museums exhibits don't fit the colour scheme but the hangar doesn't look right.
Challenge aircraft is an early-ish twin engined jet possibly prototype or experimental as Asturias has surmised.
Two RPM gauges most unergonomically sited are calibrated 0 - 90 which os presumably 9,000RPM which makes little sense, even the early Goblins made 12-14,000 or so.

BSD 12th Apr 2024 10:49

How about the Bell XP-59A Airacomet?

India Four Two 12th Apr 2024 15:46

Interesting speculation chaps. You're collectively on the right track, but it's not the Airacomet.

Here's an external clue:
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7b84825b1.jpeg

Asturias56 12th Apr 2024 16:34

Bloody great flaps alright - and on the cockpit dial they go out to 30 degrees at least..... was that the experiment they were carrying out?

that looks like a US star on the top wing so defo American I guess

Self loading bear 12th Apr 2024 18:45

Pretty sure it is Hagerstown aviation museum.
But that is one of the poorer websites on their collection.

Noyade 12th Apr 2024 20:03

Northrop X-4 Bantam.

Self loading bear 12th Apr 2024 21:21

Yes, so much for my Hagerstown story.
i will humbly get back in my hut.

India Four Two 13th Apr 2024 01:56

Yes, it's the Bantam.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....da70289195.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_X-4_Bantam

Noyade has control.

Asturias56 13th Apr 2024 08:37

damn - N -6676............................. need better software - or better eyes....................

Noyade 14th Apr 2024 00:12

Cheers India.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6aa61522dd.jpg

Asturias56 14th Apr 2024 07:54

a glider?

sycamore 14th Apr 2024 09:41

Looks distinctly painful....

Noyade 14th Apr 2024 19:49

Not a glider.

Asturias56 15th Apr 2024 08:00

Autogyro?

meleagertoo 15th Apr 2024 14:06

Is it a BD5?

Noyade 15th Apr 2024 20:20

Not a gyroplane, nor from Bede.

Noyade 16th Apr 2024 08:58

Only one built.

Asturias56 16th Apr 2024 15:29

I'm not surprised - American?

sycamore 16th Apr 2024 18:50

Is it the `slew-wing` X-?? jobba...?


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