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Self loading bear 30th Mar 2021 05:36


Originally Posted by asw28-866 (Post 11018875)
Post 2196 gave away the lineage for me, looks distinctly Yakalov. As to which one, the high/low/ back, single/two-seat, sentence leads me to suggest, YAK-7.

'866

866 nailed it with the Yak-7

The floor is yours.
I think the photos are all -7Bs but no one can tell when they all differ.

Who knows more about the speeds of this bird?

Jhieminga 30th Mar 2021 10:41

Looks like they just threw any instrument they could find into it. I suspect that the original Russian books and instruments may have used km/h to keep things interesting (or am I confusing Russian and German cockpits here...?), so the Vne number may be from one translation of the Russian documents and the instrument is perhaps based on something else again. Indeed, not good practice, but registered as 'experimental' so more or less the owner/operator's problem... :}

asw28-866 2nd Apr 2021 00:11

Apologies for tardy response, had to go and do some work! Try this one...

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b5b5c95708.jpg

asw28-866 2nd Apr 2021 02:30

Original, un-modernised cockpit...
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....61add9607e.jpg


ex82watcher 2nd Apr 2021 09:35

Nice shelf there for your coffee,sandwiches etc.

Jhieminga 2nd Apr 2021 09:57

In those days, it was more likely used for the ashtray...

asw28-866 2nd Apr 2021 21:20

Quite right, this is the swinging sixties after all, aircraft developed by well known manufacturer to take on the Cessna 172.

asw28-866 3rd Apr 2021 09:09

External view showing rather D.H. Leopard Moth like strut arrangement (for the same reason, to facilitate wing folding)...

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0b169fb552.jpg

BSD 3rd Apr 2021 21:11

Could it be.......

The BN3 Nymph?

That featured folding wings. Don’t think they built quite as many of them as Cessna did of the 172.




asw28-866 3rd Apr 2021 22:18

BSD has it with the BN3 Nymph, one built, still airworthy and still IoW based (apparently for sale on a UK website), the Pathe news film from 1969 is wonderful!


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....27442d7c88.jpg

BSD has control.

BSD 4th Apr 2021 22:27

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ff73827d6.jpeg
Yay! Try this. Hopefully with my limited IT skills I’ve managed to conceal the type - shown on the panel!

asw28-866 5th Apr 2021 02:56

No idea, but will attempt to narrow the field.

Homebuilt, UK registered, wood/fabric, two-seater, tailwheel, VW engine?

How many out of six?

'866

BSD 5th Apr 2021 07:27

asw - 4. It isn’t VW powered and it isn’t (as far as I can tell) a homebuilt.

As to where it was built - think of a John Betjeman poem.......

Asturias56 5th Apr 2021 07:35

Slough??? or somewhere a bit more bucolic?

BSD 5th Apr 2021 08:08

Asturias,

Slough is spot on. Though I think this was built after he implored "the friendly bombs to fall on Slough"

meleagertoo 5th Apr 2021 11:27

Bucolic, or alcoholic?

Self loading bear 5th Apr 2021 11:47

If I am right there is also a connection with Sloinge.

BSD 5th Apr 2021 14:32

Sloinge? Sweden? Hmmm. I can't see that connection myself. Could be something I haven't spotted though.

However, though I believe it was built in Slough, it has connections with 2 other countries in mainland Europe. One of them Bear, being a neighbour of yours.....

Lovely looking little aeroplane though.


sycamore 5th Apr 2021 15:02

E.O. T, not PG...?

UV 5th Apr 2021 16:12

Tipsy Trainer? OH if correct.

BSD 5th Apr 2021 16:52

UV - It is indeed the Tipsy Trainer. This one is G-AFWT, no. 13.

The European connections are: Belgium (the designer) and Czechoslovakia (a Walter Mikron engine)

I'd failed to spot Sycamore's reference E.O.T as being Ernest Oscar Tips, the Belgian born designer and Sloinge, the museum in Sweden where one can be found, but a kindly PM from the Netherlands showed me the light.

I'm always impressed at how quickly these challenges fall.


UV 5th Apr 2021 17:36


Originally Posted by BSD (Post 11022865)

I'm always impressed at how quickly these challenges fall.

I think sycamore was already on to this and meleargertoo was probably also in the know with his “alcoholic” comment re. Tipsy.

After Slough was mentioned as the place of manufacture all I had to was google “aircraft built in Slough”!!

OH please.


Asturias56 6th Apr 2021 08:06

what you have to remember is that in searching for the "current challenge" the more obsessive of us (:}) look at a A LOT of other images - so when one comes up chances are people have seen it or something similar before

sycamore 6th Apr 2021 10:53

Or,if we can cobble the brain cells together ,remember having flown it about 45 yrs ago ..! rather like flying an open top Triumph TR3....on a fine summer`s day......

Asturias56 6th Apr 2021 15:53

We also attended a lot of airshows - when they were fun................

Self loading bear 6th Apr 2021 15:55

The really obsessive have probably put the photos in their file “future challenges”.
and then moan that you have posted their next challenge!!!
(it wasn’t me,.....,,this time;-)


BSD 7th Apr 2021 08:15

Ditto to all of the above for me too. The pictures I've posted have all been taken by me, mostly on my i-phone and then kept - waiting for a suitable moment to contribute! The one I though would be the best challenge went in a heartbeat when someone spotted I'd left the registration in full view. Doh!

Hours of endless fun to be had on this and the "which aerodrome" thread!

Cheers to all.


Self loading bear 9th Apr 2021 20:58

Shall we honor HRH Prince Philip with a multiple challenge?

May he fly on the highest flight level in fair winds.

(As he has flown in 59 types; please feel free to extend the challenge with more photos)

1)

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....16033ec01.jpeg


2)
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d52dc39db.jpeg

3)
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....841b745c2.jpeg

4)
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7d0620244.jpeg

5)
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0d157f1f5.jpeg

6)
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....af7de8e30.jpeg

7)

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3f5e75b29.jpeg








Asturias56 10th Apr 2021 07:21

How do we decide who has won? Marks out of 7??

Self loading bear 10th Apr 2021 08:17


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11025517)
How do we decide who has won? Marks out of 7??

something like that.

But everyone can easily increase his own score if you add some pictures too!

8)

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5e539a5a0.jpeg

9)

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....097b2b8fb.jpeg

sycamore 10th Apr 2021 08:59

1.Glider.
2.Different glider
3.Whirlwind 12
4.B757
5.BAe146
6.Andover
7.Whirlwind Mk7
8.`Bridge of `HMS Beverly`
9Jetstream.

UV 10th Apr 2021 09:43

1.The glider is an Eagle, a high performance two seater at the time. Derek Piggott in the back seat. Ann Welsh and Peter Scott looking on?
2 Second glider a Skylark 2 or 3

Self loading bear 10th Apr 2021 12:50

I am afraid Syca scores 4 out of 9.
Who will take the lead?

Self loading bear 12th Apr 2021 18:28

With no other answers or added photos forthcoming I give Sycamore the lead with a score of 4
I want to thank UV for identification of the Skylark. That was also a question mark for me.

There is a short film of the visit of Prince Philip to the Bristol gliding club:
Bristol Gliding Club
  1. Slingsby Eagle
  2. Skylark 2 or 3?
  3. 1965 Westland Whirlwind HCC.12
  4. Boeing 757 1982 Seattle
  5. Hawker Siddeley Trident 1C
  6. Hawker Siddeley HS-780 Andover Algeria El Asnam 1980
  7. Whirlwind HAR.1 or HAR.2 1956
  8. Blackburn Beverly
  9. Another Andover (definitely no Jetstream)


sycamore 13th Apr 2021 16:12

Thanks SLB,but it is Open House.....

Sideshow Bob 27th Apr 2021 19:43

Since it's been two weeks, here's an easy one to get thread back up the list
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....150373f263.jpg

oncemorealoft 27th Apr 2021 22:25

Lockheed Tristar. OH please if correct.

asw28-866 28th Apr 2021 04:13

I concur, I think OMA has it with the Tristar, now we wait for clock...

Meikleour 28th Apr 2021 12:47

The thumb trim wheel is a dead giveaway!

Sideshow Bob 28th Apr 2021 20:19


Originally Posted by oncemorealoft (Post 11034962)
Lockheed Tristar. OH please if correct.

absolutely right did say it was easy. Tristar KC1 ZD952 (ex-BA -500) in the cruise.


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