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Asturias56 12th May 2024 16:33

Try this one

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....cb6b91f417.jpg

BEagle 12th May 2024 18:57

More of same!!
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ccaa54ad9b.jpg

Asturias56 13th May 2024 07:24

Might as well name it Beagle

Ombinda 13th May 2024 10:26

American X type?

Does that dial bottom right say Ammonia?

BEagle 13th May 2024 11:06

That gauge does indeed indicate Ammonia quantity.

I will leave it for others to name the aircraft type.

Asturias56 13th May 2024 14:31

Why? Surely you deserve the plaudits??

BEagle 14th May 2024 07:52

No. All I did was to provide a larger image of the mystery cockpit than the very small one you submitted.

Someone else should name the aicraft.

meleagertoo 14th May 2024 14:03

Is this aircraft actually powered by ammonia, because I've searched every such one I can find (and there aren't many) and none are remotely similar - or is the ammonia used for something else?

Asturias56 14th May 2024 14:35

An excellent question.

The ammonia appears to have been used in the air conditioning system - both for electronics and crew..................

Ombinda 14th May 2024 14:43

I think (maybe?) that I found it?

https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Vi...b-70-valkyrie/

BEagle 14th May 2024 15:37

Ammonia was used for electrical equipment coolig durin taxying, approach and landing and during in-flight electronic system overheat conditions.


Ombinda, you are correct - you have control!

meleagertoo 14th May 2024 18:25

Seriously good bit of lateral confusion sowed there - well done. Even though Beagle did recognise it.

I searched long and hard for any aircraft that used ammonia for any purpose and drew a blank.

Extreme cooling - aircon - ammonia. Yes - of course!

Respect!!!

Ombinda 14th May 2024 19:08

A bit of lucky Google, not knowlege.
Bed and busy day ahead.
Open house.

Asturias56 15th May 2024 07:39

I agree - Ombinda has it and has declared OH

BigBoreFour 15th May 2024 16:53


Originally Posted by BEagle (Post 11655096)
Ammonia was used for electrical equipment cooling during taxying, approach and landing and during in-flight electronic system overheat conditions.

Also used on the ISS for similar purposes.
Smelling salts.
Can be used to manufacture methamphetamine.
And is used for treatment of cotton materials.

For those playing at home with no access to wikipedia.


BEagle 15th May 2024 22:29

NOT powered by ammonia:


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e455704c73.jpg

India Four Two 16th May 2024 01:58

1920s? British?

Ombinda 16th May 2024 06:42

Did it fly across the Atlantic?

BEagle 16th May 2024 11:19

It did not cross the Atlantic.

BEagle 16th May 2024 22:21

...and pre-WW2 British!

Asturias56 17th May 2024 07:25

Did it see RAF Service?

BEagle 17th May 2024 07:35

Not just with the RAF, other air forces too.

Asturias56 17th May 2024 16:13

so - something built in numbers - well for the interwar period.

Single engined?

meleagertoo 18th May 2024 11:44

It's so so Hawker Fury/Demon Blackburn Baffin but I can't place it.

BEagle 18th May 2024 22:01

None of the above!

Noyade 19th May 2024 04:57


Originally Posted by BEagle (Post 11657028)
Not just with the RAF, other air forces too.

Wapiti?


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....690b0ec241.jpg

BEagle 19th May 2024 07:10

Noyade, correct! It was indeed the Westland Wapiti!

You have control.

Noyade 19th May 2024 11:40

Cheers BEagle.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....fd502bf2fe.jpg

Asturias56 19th May 2024 15:30

N american?

Noyade 19th May 2024 17:49

Not this time.

D26 19th May 2024 18:25

IMHO it has air operated main wheel brakes, retractable landing gear. Not British.
Just trying.

BEagle 19th May 2024 22:27

Heston Phoenix...

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....fd55b95630.jpg

Noyade 20th May 2024 16:51

The Phoenix it is.
Back to you, BEagle. :ok:

BEagle 20th May 2024 19:12

Thanks Noyade!


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1077a55ae3.jpg

Ombinda 21st May 2024 07:13

"MIN ROTOR REVOLUTIONS AT TAKE OFF" makes me suspect a Gyro?

thnarg 21st May 2024 09:13

Not sure which model it is but you got me reading about its eponymous designer, about whom I knew little. Interesting life and a tragic death.

Noyade 22nd May 2024 22:45


Originally Posted by thnarg (Post 11659662)
Interesting life and a tragic death.

Killed in an air crash?
Possibly Juan de la Cierva?
If so, maybe the Cierva C-30?

BEagle 23rd May 2024 08:12

Noyade, correct! Cierva C-30A autogyro it is indeed! Also known as the Avro Rota Mk1 in RAF service.

You have control!

Noyade 24th May 2024 03:50

Thanks BEagle - but thnarg should have this as he led me to Cierva.
Cheers!

thnarg 24th May 2024 07:25


Originally Posted by Noyade (Post 11661850)
Thanks BEagle - but thnarg should have this as he led me to Cierva.
Cheers!

Very kind but I don’t have any cockpit photos without me or a colleague spoiling the view. If Noyade doesn’t want control then please open the house.


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