HPT 32 Deepack. OH if correct.

UV has it with the HPT-32 Deepack

Open House called

To keep things moving along:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....defa9633f7.jpg

I can see the reg...!

Oops! ... Should be fixed now

Can I just point at post #1837?

My apologies! I hadn't noticed the previous one.

Jhieminga has it.

Piaggio Royal Gull it is.

Thanks, let's have an Open House.

Try this one.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....fad284254.jpeg

Looks like a "War Power switch on the starboard side??

It's Soviet/Soviet bloc and westernised. 1970's era.
The gear/flaps/(weapons?) silouhette indicator below the weapons selector is deffo Russian seen in various types, inc Su25 Frogfoot which this cockpit closely resembles . Reflector sight is a '60s era Russian one. I think the bang-seat is western too.
The 3 panels shape and layout is very Russian, the wanderlight isn't NATO, RCDI is in metres.
It appears to be a twin jet with a multiple weapons selector, so looks like ground attack.

As to what it actually is - stumped. For now.

Excellent sleuthing, meleagertoo. :ok:

Soviet bloc and westernised. 1970s. MB Mk10L seat. Twin jet.

A 1970s design but with a long and protracted development. Only a few were built.

The closest I can get is Nanchang A5 but none of the very few photos I can find are a really convincing match. The canopy bow is in the right place but nowhere near beefy enough nor the right shape - in fact it is so insubstantial I hardly see it being a part of a jet combat aircraft at all so I reckon this is a mockup and not the real thing.
The red handle and wanderlight next to it are in the right place.
I'd put money on it being a Mig 19 derivative though -

Not entirely confident with the call but by a process of elinination I'm saying the A-5IV/A-5M probably a mockup as exported to Pakistan with Rockwell-Collins avionics and instrumentation and a Mk10 seat.

Edit. Mig 21 derivatives are too big for this - it's not one of those.

IAR-93 Vultur does fit the brief, 1970s, Sovbloc, probably Westernised, not that many built.... but the cockpit doesn't match. Back to square one...

Could be a IAR-99 variant.
Probably The Jaffe Aircraft Corporation modified one?
Could not locate a photo of that so a blunt stab in the dark.

IAR 99 is single engined so not that one.

I also discover that PODW on the red handle is Polish for "Double" which makes my Nanchang look much less likely.

I thnk I've looked at every Eastern European aircraft there is and some came close but no way can I match all the detials.

I've even searched Martin Baker's list of Mk 10 installations and can't see a match either.

Edit.

OK,I now think it's an E European product. The vertical red handle is identical to that on and Aero 159 and the riveted cockpit sides are very distinctive, as is the screen defogging tube.
Soko J22 and IAR 93 are the closest I can get so far.They match most of the criteria - twin, long in development, Mk10, canopy shape and position fits, armoured front screen fits, role fits but there are so few pics on the net its impossible to choose which, or which model and nothing like the instrument fit is to be found. I'm not happy about the 3 panel layout though which doesn't match at all.

d'uh oh!
How did I miss that? It's a PZL I-22 Iryda. Shoulda stuck to the Polish language clue but despite several google searches for PZL I 22 cockpit image I failed to spot any but older versions, it wasn't until I added Iryda that this modern one came up. Nice looking little toy, I'd like a go in one of those!
Thanks to Martin Baker's list!

Open House please.

Well done! The PZL I-22 Iryda it is. Development began in 1976, first flew in 1985, 17 built, retired in 1996. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL_I-22_Iryda


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....581300bb55.png

It was planned to be the replacement of the PZL TS-11 Iskara but ran into lots of cost/performance issues and had a fatal accident. You know things are not going well when the manufacturer sues the Ministry of Defence!

I noticed that too, when I was looking for images. The older ones are so different that I thought they might be mislabelled!

Open House has been declared.

I wonder what the unit cost was?
Russ

Probably less than the unit cost of an F-35! :E

Let’s post this one.
The owner of this particular aircraft persevered.
or was it progres-severe?

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a3d1d3d16.jpeg

It looks Zenith-like. 701 or 750?

Sorry, not Russian
but the 7 and 0 are correct!

I meant the American Zenair STOL kitplanes.
If not then maybe the Italian Zenith look alike, the Savannah?

I remember seeing one do an impressive STOL demo at a CAP Raduno in a 30 knot wind!

Mark 1 , you have hit it with the Savannah
ICP MXP 740 Savannah.
This particular aircraft was owned by the Thai who owned Pattaya Airpark.
He preserved by surviving 16 crashes.
His 17th crash was fatal.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b8140a12a.jpeg

17 Crashes! You can only defy Darwin for so long.

See what you make of this:
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f37f7c1674.jpg

The Basler BT-67 I guess.

That didn't take you long!
I snapped this while wandering around the ramp at Iqaluit and got invited in for a look around.
Jhieminga has control.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....731545f878.png

How about this one:
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1a147a2cd6.jpg

Ashtons were Tudor airframes with jet engines only used for development.
That might clarify the “experimental” LH yoke?
I wondered about the “paddle shifters” on the right hand yoke.
I think I have seen that somewhere else as well but what were those for?

The paddles on the RHS yoke are reminiscent of the brake applicators on the Vickers Varsity.

mcdhu

Handley Page used a similar set up around then and before (Halifax and Hastings).

Looking closely ,the LH CC is for measuring stick force and deflection,and rudder pedals,but no visible pedals for the copilot,just a hole into the nose.....

No pics of the F/E position ?

The windshield looks like an Ashton.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e20d74f902.png

I am not able to post pictures here yet, The Ashton MK3 was featured in Neville Shute's "Cone of Silence". It might follow that the Fight Engineer's panel can be seen on You Tube ://youtu.be/r5ATtPTqxXk @ 52:50 and throughout the film.

Always on the lookout for some aviation literature.
I found that the book cone of silence is from David Beaty.
But I now will add Neville Shute to my list as well.

The Avro 706 Ashton it is indeed, which means that rotarywrench has control.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....af1c1507dc.jpg
Nevil Shute novels should certainly be on your list! 'No Highway' is the one that is tentatively linked to the Comet saga, even if it was published six years before that happened. Other novels with an aviation influence from Shute are 'The Rainbow and the Rose', 'Landfall' and 'Round the Bend' for example, his autobiography is also well worth the time for his recollections from the R100 story.

I cannot post pictures here yet so it will have to be an Open House

you are on 11 so you can give it a try?