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Self loading bear 11th Nov 2020 19:51

Jelle
It is indeed the SIPA Minijet V200.
I could blurred half the photo but I thought it just such a sharp picture of a beautiful dashboard that did not want to spoil it.

The UFO is probably a guide wheel for a hanging rolling door.
Dixi, thanks for the explanation about the bearing selector.

Jelle has control.

India Four Two 12th Nov 2020 05:11

A "baby Vampire" - lovely!


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8e0e17dc12.jpg

kenparry 12th Nov 2020 09:57

Yes - but what on earth did the gearlever do?

meleagertoo 12th Nov 2020 15:46

Flap and gear control - it's clearly labeled.
It combines flap and gear control into one lever and each system has two selections, raise and lower. The off function is in the middle of the H gate as depicted. Indicators on the panel comfirm u/c and flap position achieved.

Lethal altimeter!

Self loading bear 12th Nov 2020 19:34

I was wondering myself:
Are those both altitude change meters
m/s and pieds/minute?

Jhieminga 13th Nov 2020 11:09

"When I grow up I want to be a Vampire..." Charming little jet, but that lever is a recipe for disaster that reminds me of the identical flaps and gear switches in the B-17s.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....30692298ef.jpg

ea200 13th Nov 2020 13:28

The Spanish ASI, stick, pedals and mag switch are all spanish built BU 131 but it looks brand new. I will have to go for the Bucker though. Maybe a re-build.

Jhieminga 13th Nov 2020 20:26

I'll have to hand the controls to ea200. Officially it's a CASA 1-131E Jungmann, but let's not argue about the details... ;)

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....69447f6bab.jpg

ea200 13th Nov 2020 20:57

Thanks Jhieminga. Silly of me, knew it was a spanish one and forgot the CASA designation. The mag switch with the little key on a chain was an immediate giveaway. Only flown one once, delightful.

Let's try this.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7f882b10c1.jpg

UV 14th Nov 2020 01:54

Condor? OH if correct.

ea200 14th Nov 2020 10:52

Indeed it is UV and with a nice new panel in this one.

Open house is declared.

Self loading bear 15th Nov 2020 17:30

As I understood the Reinhard Mey challenge was appreciated;
I stumbled over another VIP in a cockpit photo were the aircraft type was not stated.
No extra points for the VIP’s name and I can assure you his tie was clipped long before this photo was taken.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....50ea80c68.jpeg

JENKINS 15th Nov 2020 20:54

Lockheed L12, Wing Commander Gibbs flying?

Self loading bear 15th Nov 2020 22:00


Originally Posted by JENKINS (Post 10927349)
Lockheed L12, Wing Commander Gibbs flying?

I have not (yet) found Electra juniors with an horizontal division.
The glass also seems curved and Electras had only flat glass panels?
certainly not wing commander Gibbs.
But he was (titular) RAF Commodore.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....246c396c1.jpeg
Same day same cockpit with his personal (Co-) pilot. Who was also special adjudant to the missus of the Captain

Archer4 16th Nov 2020 08:27

It is a Stinson L-5B-VW Sentinel. PH-PBB with His Royal Highness Prince Bernhard at the controls.

JENKINS 16th Nov 2020 09:05

Wing Commander Gibbs was the pseudonym for HRH in WW2, that was the easy bit. Several photographs of that time in the cockpit appear on Interweb, none helping with aircraft ident though one appeared to show the Prince leaving an aircraft. Do I get a mark for the name of his Sealyham, often sharing a cockpit on flights, even if aircraft incorrect?

Your photographs from as far back as HM Queen Wilhelmina show the interest in Aviation expressed by the Dutch Royal Family.

Archer4 16th Nov 2020 10:04

HRH Bernhard's office of Inspector General is in Hilversum which is next to my home field. They website of the airport (ehhv.nl, history page) has a page on him with pictures.

Also the actual plane is restored and based on the military airport of Gilze-Rijen. Owner is Royal Netherlands Historical Flight (kluhv.nl) of which I'm a sponsor.

Self loading bear 16th Nov 2020 10:35

Jenkins, my apologies!
My bad not knowing about wing commander Gibbs.

Archy,
I doubt this cockpit photo was PH-PBB.

I have one more photo of HRH with his aide mr Gerben Sonderman beside the aircraft.
Apologies that it is no longer a What cockpit but now also Name that flying machine.

The game is still on and Jenkins can still go for full points.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d90259ebe.jpeg

sycamore 16th Nov 2020 14:32

Anson....?

Self loading bear 16th Nov 2020 15:57


Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 10927933)
Anson....?

I didn’t find an Anson With the same side window layout.
Also the door seems to have more rounded corners than an Anson.

Jhieminga 16th Nov 2020 19:44

I'll go with a Siebel Si 204A-1. OH if correct.

Self loading bear 16th Nov 2020 22:33


Originally Posted by Jhieminga (Post 10928140)
I'll go with a Siebel Si 204A-1. OH if correct.

I think this is indeed a Siebel Si204A-1.
Probably PH-NAV owned by Prince Bernhard for a short period in 1946-47.
This same aircraft crashed as EC-ADB in Spain 1948.

I found matching photos of the cockpit with curtains and photos of same door ladder and matching side windows.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f7840aa2e.jpeg

Open House called.

Self loading bear 18th Nov 2020 19:20

If there are no takers for the open house,
I also have a cockpit photo of the wing commander Gibbs’
grandson, more widely known as Mr. WA van Buren.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ac5be2472.jpeg


Jhieminga 18th Nov 2020 20:31

Cessna Caravan!

Self loading bear 19th Nov 2020 16:39


Originally Posted by Jhieminga (Post 10929824)
Cessna Caravan!

I had not yet searched myself, but I did not expect it to last very long.
I am curious about Jelle’s next challenge.
You have the con.

Jhieminga 20th Nov 2020 12:31

Oh dear... the pressure.... ;)

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9d724b7118.jpg

wub 20th Nov 2020 18:32

Jaguar GR3

Self loading bear 20th Nov 2020 18:36

Must be the remake of the Spirit.

The spirit of st Louis , I mean,
As there is not much Forward view left to look ahead.

Jhieminga 21st Nov 2020 08:54


Originally Posted by wub (Post 10931164)
Jaguar GR3

That’s the one! wub has control.

wub 21st Nov 2020 12:02

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....87f5542e3.jpeg

sycamore 21st Nov 2020 14:57

Airship or hovercraft.....?

wub 21st Nov 2020 16:45


Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 10931626)
Airship or hovercraft.....?

Neither I’m afraid

meleagertoo 21st Nov 2020 16:55

Neither and both as I suspect you know full well...

It's an A90 Olyanok ekranoplan.


wub 21st Nov 2020 19:03


Originally Posted by meleagertoo (Post 10931710)
Neither and both as I suspect you know full well...

It's an A90 Olyanok ekranoplan.

Well I wasn’t going to give it away too early, well done...over to you...

India Four Two 21st Nov 2020 21:59


Jaguar GR3
When I saw that picture, I imagined an early design meeting:

OK chaps. Here's the cockpit mockup. I want you to fill it with as many TVs, dials, knobs, switches, bells and whistles as you can. Don't worry about this new-fangled ergonomics fad!

wub 21st Nov 2020 22:34


Originally Posted by India Four Two (Post 10931852)
When I saw that picture, I imagined an early design meeting:

Similar to the Buccaneer cockpit, described as an ergonomic slum

meleagertoo 22nd Nov 2020 12:14

Open House please.

Jhieminga 22nd Nov 2020 18:54

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0aae46d49a.jpg

ex egbe 22nd Nov 2020 23:32

Is it a Stampe per chance??

Jhieminga 23rd Nov 2020 07:01

It is not, sorry.


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