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I would say one11 was correct it is a Ryan SC
Later version here:-
Photos: Ryan SCW-145 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
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Later version here:-
Photos: Ryan SCW-145 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
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I couldn't find anything about the aircraft used by the Civil Air Patrol but I did find this:-
Paramount Pictures', Wake Island, represented the first attempt by Hollywood to accurately portray American troops in action. Director John Farrow wanted to make the film as accurate as possible, including the location. The film was shot entirely on location off of Salton Sea, in the California desert. Morrison-Knudsen Co., the construction crew on Wake Island at the time of its capture, was hired to recreate the island's facilities prior to the beginning of the siege. Because of the fact that Japanese Americans had been interred in California, Chinese and Filipino citizens were hired to portray the Japanese soldiers in the film.
To further enhance the reality of the film, the Marine Corps. loaned six of its F4F-3's to the film's crew, while five Ryan SCW's were used to simulate the Japanese ASM "Claude" fighters. When the look-alike Japanese planes flew over the area on their simulated bomb runs, residents had to be warned not to be alarmed and to also avert the possibility of the planes being fired upon. In addition, thirty tons of explosives were used for bombs.
To further enhance the reality of the film, the Marine Corps. loaned six of its F4F-3's to the film's crew, while five Ryan SCW's were used to simulate the Japanese ASM "Claude" fighters. When the look-alike Japanese planes flew over the area on their simulated bomb runs, residents had to be warned not to be alarmed and to also avert the possibility of the planes being fired upon. In addition, thirty tons of explosives were used for bombs.
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Are we sold on the SCW? Graeme's clue said it was used to "detect" a U-boat. How would a SCW do that?
I don't think it is a SCW. The windscreen is very different. The challenge has a central column dividing the screen. The rest of the framing is also more chunky that the proposed answer photo.
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I don't think it is a SCW. The windscreen is very different. The challenge has a central column dividing the screen. The rest of the framing is also more chunky that the proposed answer photo.
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No, I do not think we are sold on it. I am still searching. However, there are several similarities between the SCW and the aircraft shown in Graeme's photograph. Such as the sliding canopy structure and the way the bottom forward edge clips into the windsreen structure, also the panel lines and rivet lines. It probably is a complete false trail.
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it was used to "detect" a U-boat. How would a SCW do tha
Presumably a lucky visual sighting.
I've trawled everywhere about U-boats, particularly those caught off the coast of the USA, and found nothing.
....an so we wait......
We're off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of.....
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Sorry teacher!
By the way, in answer to your question about the strange object below the cockpit line, I have no idea. It certainly looks like a regular fitting as the skin joins around it match it's shape.
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By the way, in answer to your question about the strange object below the cockpit line, I have no idea. It certainly looks like a regular fitting as the skin joins around it match it's shape.
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By the way, in answer to your question about the strange object below the cockpit line, I have no idea.
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Well the Civil Air Patrol certainly had a Ryan SCW. See attached link. 5th photograph down on the right hand side.
The National Museum of the Civil Air Patrol - Exhibit II
The National Museum of the Civil Air Patrol - Exhibit II
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Evening all,
Just finished work and a few minutes to play!
Have read the thread on the latest from Graeme and have nothing really to add other than the "mystery black thingy" does look very similar to the Ryan SCW photo, but wasn't the Ryan a three seat cabin monoplane with a low set wing? The Challenge cockpit looks to be a single seat width, its aft-quarterlight window seems shallower than the the SCW and is it a mid-winger?
Just finished work and a few minutes to play!
Have read the thread on the latest from Graeme and have nothing really to add other than the "mystery black thingy" does look very similar to the Ryan SCW photo, but wasn't the Ryan a three seat cabin monoplane with a low set wing? The Challenge cockpit looks to be a single seat width, its aft-quarterlight window seems shallower than the the SCW and is it a mid-winger?
but wasn't the Ryan a three seat cabin monoplane with a low set wing? The Challenge cockpit looks to be a single seat width, its aft-quarterlight window seems shallower than the the SCW and is it a mid-winger?
except that Noyade said it was low-wing.
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"Noyade said it was low-wing" You're right LM, he did and I missed it!
So can that thing that looks like a mid-wing possibly be an engine, making it a twin? But that black line does look like the trailing edge and underside of a wing. However, it just looks too close to the cockpit to me!
So can that thing that looks like a mid-wing possibly be an engine, making it a twin? But that black line does look like the trailing edge and underside of a wing. However, it just looks too close to the cockpit to me!
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I have a feeling its all about angles. I reckon it is the SCW but the angle of the shot makes it look like a fighter!
As it has a bomb rack could the black thingey be a bomb sight, a primitive one, of course?
As it has a bomb rack could the black thingey be a bomb sight, a primitive one, of course?