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I dont suppose its an early arrangement for the Lockheed Electra is it? Only there is an impression that was published in Flight in 1934 with a single fin and the engines do look canted slightly outwards too.
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This seems to Link the Bennet and the Darai. Seems like something was lost in translation and a mythical aircraft appeared!!
Mitsubishi B5M1 B-97 Darai (Doris) Info (seems to show the Challenge Drawing but note confusion and say it never existed as Japanese aircraft)
and this is the Bennet "Executive" mentioned by Skytrain
http://www.skywaysjournal.org/Images...tt_article.pdf (photos match the challenge drawing and description, but the planview differs in engine thrust-line)
Mitsubishi B5M1 B-97 Darai (Doris) Info (seems to show the Challenge Drawing but note confusion and say it never existed as Japanese aircraft)
and this is the Bennet "Executive" mentioned by Skytrain
http://www.skywaysjournal.org/Images...tt_article.pdf (photos match the challenge drawing and description, but the planview differs in engine thrust-line)
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It is the Doris I can assure you. The image is from official USAAC sources.
The ame source quotes:
The ame source quotes:
JAPANESE
ARMY
MITSUBISHI DARAI 108 (TYPE 97) LIGHT BOMBER
Description:
Crew:
Armament:
Ammunition:
Bomb load:
Radio:
Armor:
Motors:
Maximum speed:
Rate of climb:
Service ceiling:
Maximum range:
Wing span:
Remarks:
Slightly swept-back, tapered, round tip,
midwing monoplane. Twin engine, tapered
nose, inclosed cockpit, and retractable
landing gear.
Five.
Two cannon and two machine guns.
1,230 pounds.
Two 350-horsepower Darai 108 Diesel.
175 miles Per hour.
20,000 feet.
500 miles.ARMY
MITSUBISHI DARAI 108 (TYPE 97) LIGHT BOMBER
Description:
Crew:
Armament:
Ammunition:
Bomb load:
Radio:
Armor:
Motors:
Maximum speed:
Rate of climb:
Service ceiling:
Maximum range:
Wing span:
Remarks:
Slightly swept-back, tapered, round tip,
midwing monoplane. Twin engine, tapered
nose, inclosed cockpit, and retractable
landing gear.
Five.
Two cannon and two machine guns.
1,230 pounds.
Two 350-horsepower Darai 108 Diesel.
175 miles Per hour.
20,000 feet.
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skytrain is correct. It is the Bennett BTC-1 Executive. It was an all-American design of plastic (bakelite) construction. Possibly the first plastic design. There is a vague Japanese connection, as Japan was interested license building the aircraft by Mitsubishi as the B-97 Darai, but the plan was never taken up. Perhaps the Nakajima AT2 took the place of the B-97.
So, teusje correctly identified it first as an unbuilt Japanese license built design. Kudos to teusje. As skytrain identified the real aircraft, control goes to him.
So, teusje correctly identified it first as an unbuilt Japanese license built design. Kudos to teusje. As skytrain identified the real aircraft, control goes to him.
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Sorry evansB but I'd question that the photo matches the silhouette. The tail is different as is the glazing. The silhouette is the Darai as illustrated by the USAAC in their ID books of WW2. I reckon Teusje has it!
.... but of course the USAAC/USAAF/USAF are never wrong, are they???
.... Actually I just found another site with the exact silhouette and it actually referes to it as being the BTC-1 so, sorry, I guess I was wrong ... and so were the US military!!!!! And I thought they were so good... cough, splutter, .......
RR
.... but of course the USAAC/USAAF/USAF are never wrong, are they???
.... Actually I just found another site with the exact silhouette and it actually referes to it as being the BTC-1 so, sorry, I guess I was wrong ... and so were the US military!!!!! And I thought they were so good... cough, splutter, .......
RR
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Thanks Bri. Had found reference to the Dorris but it was referred to as a light bomber so in view of your comment about it being an executive aircraft I worked backwards to find the aircraft the Dorris was (allegedly) to be based on
Here's an easy one:
Here's an easy one: