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Old 25th Nov 2009, 20:44
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SincoTC.
Not only might it be, it IS the Savory Biplane of 1910.
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Old 25th Nov 2009, 21:46
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May I take advantage of the open house?

This then is my offering

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Old 25th Nov 2009, 21:50
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Looks like a development of the Gnat?
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Old 25th Nov 2009, 22:04
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Yes, it does doesn't it.

But what exactly?
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Old 25th Nov 2009, 23:29
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The proposed Gnat Mark 5 perhaps? The "Gnat Mark 5" was a series of designs, ultimately featuring twin afterburning Rolls-Bristol RB.153 engines, improved aerodynamics that resulted in only a general resemblance to the original Gnat, and a top speed of Mach 2.4.
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Old 26th Nov 2009, 00:19
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Not the Mk 5, this came a few years before that one, but will have definitley informed the Mk 5, how precise shou;ld we be? It was clearly identified as a Gnat derivative straight away, but I was hoping to have the unusual nature of this design identified. Am I being too picky?
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Old 26th Nov 2009, 06:01
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Morning HD! I'd say that you can ask for whatever you think is appropriate and interesting for the group. I don't think it has everbeen agreed but I'd suggest that when posting you state what you'd like identified in order to solve it, whilst keeping within the silhouette theme. Anyone else got thoughts on that?

Would your entry be the Mk4, also planned to be a naval aircraft? It's not the Mk2 as that had a single engine. An unusual feature? Not sure whatyou are looking for?

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Old 26th Nov 2009, 07:57
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I was hoping to have the unusual nature of this design identified.
Is it related to the "bump" under the centre fuselage? A lightweight nuke delivery machine? ...... I know, i know, I'm crazy......

...... I know, i know, I'm crazy......
Having zoomed in I may not be so crazy?


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Old 26th Nov 2009, 08:29
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The Folland Light Bomber Project...sorry can't find a designation for this?

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Old 26th Nov 2009, 09:21
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Think the aircraft looks like a 2-holer with the nav.wizzo in an offset behind,a la Vixen.
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Old 26th Nov 2009, 09:26
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Folland PV. Tactical Bomber studies, 1958 (GOR.339).
Specifications for the 'Gnat Tactical Bomber' were ..

Length, 44ft
Height, 11ft
Span, 37.5ft
Wing Area, 375sq.ft
Wheel Track, 6.25ft
Engines, 2x Bristol Orpheus II (uprated Orpheus 2)
Armament, provision for a '4000lb. bomb' (semi recessed carriage)
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Old 26th Nov 2009, 09:26
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Now found a drawing...thats a 4,000 lb bomb semi-recessed under the fuselage. The aircraft was targeted to be a Canberra replacement.
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Old 26th Nov 2009, 10:52
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Rats.

That will teach me not to go to bed early and start teaching early this morning.

You know I'm a jet man. Guess who's got the Geenat in his log books then...

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Old 26th Nov 2009, 11:11
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Excellent wok in my absence guys!

I think Skytrain has to be the winner as he got the ID, of it being the Gnat light bomber, but kudos too to Mel who supplied more of the details I was looking for, this was Follands unsolicited response to GOR 339 for a cheaper alternative that might be available in higher numbers. The semi recessed bomb was the big clue (so I made it smaller!) Apart from the bomb, the other notable feature is the seating arrangement, referenced by Sycamore

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Old 26th Nov 2009, 11:36
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Thanks HD....it certainly would have been an interesting, and I suspect comparitvely low cost option. I'm tied up with work this afternoon so Open House.
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Old 26th Nov 2009, 11:39
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AND it would have probably been in service before Labour came to power
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Old 26th Nov 2009, 11:41
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Open House it is.
Manufacturer and model please.

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Old 26th Nov 2009, 12:19
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Bonjour ,
Not sure at all ,

Japanese HIRO H2H ??

Cheers
Richard
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Old 26th Nov 2009, 12:22
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Bonjour Bradenav.

Sorry, this is not the one.

LM
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Old 26th Nov 2009, 12:59
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Hall YP2H-1 four-engine Navy patrol boat; 1932. perhaps? I will amend that to the XP2H-1 even.

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