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Old 5th Aug 2009, 21:10
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Kokusai KI-76 "Stella"?
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Old 5th Aug 2009, 21:58
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S'Land you have control. Well done

Kokusai Ki-76 STELLA - liason
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Thank you one11. Another good find on your part.

Here is the next one for consideration.
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Old 6th Aug 2009, 10:52
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I don't get the prop, which appears to be a pusher.

The profile view shows a bracing wire running from somewhere behind the top wing to the tail. The front view shows the top of the prop arc to be above the wing. Wire-cutting job.........

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Old 6th Aug 2009, 11:43
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Lightning Mate:
Well spotted, I should have noticed this obvious error. The aircraft uses a pusher and so the bracing wire would indeed be cut (or the prop damaged). I have checked the two sites from which the three-view was taken and they both show this bracing wire. However, I already had one photograph of the aircraft and on very close examination the wire is not there, as far as I can see. I have also made further research on the internet and have found a document about all of the aircraft from this designer. There is another three-view included which does not show the wire.

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Old 6th Aug 2009, 11:51
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Don't know what the aircraft is but would suggest the wire in question may well be part of the radio aerial system and runs from wingtip to tail thereby avoiding the prop!
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I'm thinking a Tellier, but only thinking.........
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Old 6th Aug 2009, 13:04
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LM, I think you are correct to think that way....would it be the Tellier 200? If so I will hand control over to LM as he did the difficult bit.
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Old 6th Aug 2009, 15:47
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Congratulations Lightning Mate and skytrain10. It is indeed the Tellier 200/ Tellier T-3. Testing of the first prototype took place in June 1916 on the Seine at Neuilly. The flight was good with the aircraft controls responding well. However, at 3000m the engine (Hispano-Suiza 8Ac 200hp V8) froze causing the aircraft to crash into the Seine. Two further examples were constructed and sent for testing in October at Saint Raphael. The trials were successful and resulted in an order from the French Navy for 10 units. There was a further order for 100 units in early 1917 and a further 200 at the end of the year. Production was very slow and the government involved Arsenal and Chartiers in the production to speed it up. In 1917 the USA ordered 105 units, but cancelled the order after only 33 units had been delivered (slow production again). These 33 units were probably war veterans from the French Navy. In 1918 three units were delivered to Portugal. The Tellier 200 had a crew of three, the pilot and a passenger sat side by side with the gunner sitting in the front. Weaponry was a machine gun and two bombs. Flight duration was four hours.


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Old 6th Aug 2009, 19:36
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skytrain,

Thank you kindly for your noble offering of control. I have spent some hours trying to work out the difference between the 200 and the T3.


S'land,

.... and to you for contributing excellent challenges to us.


May I now submit something a little different. I have never lasted more than ten minutes here, so I don't suppose anything will change.........

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Well, what can I say...has it flown (if I may use that word)...Is this possibly something that Sukhoi came up with...maybe the S90-200?
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Old 6th Aug 2009, 19:59
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Bugger!!!

You have control AGAIN skytrain.....

If you want a boring dissertation of how Wing In Ground Effect works......

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Old 6th Aug 2009, 21:18
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A very pleasant deviation LM...they really are fascinating machines....one wonders what might have been had the Russian government continued to fund development?

Well back to more conventional craft, lets see how long this one will last:

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Old 6th Aug 2009, 21:48
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Nikitin NV-4?
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Old 6th Aug 2009, 22:04
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Thought it would last a little longer! Well done Noyade (and good morning to you), it is the Nikitin NV4:


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Old 6th Aug 2009, 23:03
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G'day Noyade.



We're all off to bed now - look forward to tomorrow.
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Old 6th Aug 2009, 23:46
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Thanks skytrain10. Most sources I have tend to describe the Nikitin NV-4 rather than illustrate it.

We're all off to bed now
Good night! However if the prostate plays up overnight you'll be the first to see this one...

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Old 7th Aug 2009, 09:54
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Mmm.....

Not many of this sort of jet with a T-tail around.....
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Old 7th Aug 2009, 13:09
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None, I think.... The greatest of them all, the sleek and wonderful '104, went to the scrap man in the sky a while back. Airshows will never sound the same again! This one's foxing me. Maybe an Aussie (CAC) project? RR
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The side profile looks like the Avro CF-105, but the wings and T-tail don't belong. I wonder if there were some further variations on the theme? Will have to give this one some more thought.
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