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Old 28th Nov 2009, 14:33
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Another very good challeng LM; well done in weeding out the Daru!

I think that the mast supports a pitot-head out of the propwash, as there doesn't seem to be one on the wings, and that sablatnic is correct in saying "the thing between it's legs" is a Lamblin radiator, the so-called "Lobsterpot" type I believe.

As for your current challenge; I don't think that it's a very large plane, the proportions of the props and pitot-tube, combined with the large root fairing to the trailing edges of the fairly slender wings make me think it's quite a small, fast "mailplane", or some defunct project to compete in the various air races in the twenties and thirties, something by De Schelde maybe?

Anyway, time has run out for my efforts and I expect it'll be long gone when I come back on Monday, so good luck to the evening and nightshift!!

Curses; right up the wrong tree! I like the look of Mel's not so wild guess!

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Hi Lm. Another wild guess.Couzinet 71 perhaps?
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Hi LM...Dewoitine D-338?
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or perhaps the D-342...?
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Good evening everyone.

Mel,

I consider that I have achieved a record in that you took over three hours to solve it.

Wrong again by one little number according to my info'. Couzinet 70 "Arc-en-Ciel"



I rather feel that this aeroplane might have had a directional stability problem and would have been a sod to handle with a wing mounted engine failure.

The aeroplane is in trim, you have control
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Just a query....the aircraft in your picture is not a Couzinet 71 and does not look to be the same aircraft as the silhouette. The nose of the pictured aircraft is much shorter than the 71. I would agree though that the silhouette is the 71.

Here is the 71....
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"the aircraft in your picture is not a Couzinet 71"

Agreed.

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Thanks LM a very interesting challenge. I should have said either the Couzinet 70 or 71. I do note that the photograph I have of the Couzinet 71 has the extended pitot tube on the port wing. Mind you I thought we were looking up on the underside of the aircraft.
Here is the next one, nice easy one :-
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From the front it looks like a Piaggio
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Mel's challenge

This project was not from Piaggio.
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Hello

German Weser WFG P-23 project ?

Cheers
Richard

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Mel's challenge

Bradenav has it. Sorry for the delay.
You have control.
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Thank you Mel.

And now the next .
Good luck
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Hi Richard! Nice! A French Project? It looks like Potez, Farman, Hurel-Dubois and De Havilland got together over a few beers and put this together.
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Hello

You are right,it's a french project

Good luck in searching

Richard

Oh ,btw ,don't look in any of the mentioned files
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Bonjour Richard.

Am I correct in thinking that the props are pushers?
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don't look in any of the mentioned files
OK, thanks for that. My hopes were riding high for Potez, a sort of advanced version of the Potez 62.

My next guesses, pathetic they may be, are Liore et Olivier (based on the high aspect ratio wings of the Liore et Olivier 208) and Breguet (based purely on the fuselage shape of the Breguet Bre.482).
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I1) They push
2) forget lioré-Olivier and Breguet

And it's a 1939 design

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Did the Germans have a hand in this machine at all? It seems far too smooth and streamlined to French of that era
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Hello

Not any German influence here .
Some French prototypes were then ahead ,but the industry was not so good as it should be ...
(In 1939 the first Leduc was being built !!)

Return to the challenge :
This design was the very last design of the firm ,but his assets were taken by a well known firm : transport sailplane ,jet-trainer etc ...

Good luck
:it's an opportunity to open some old and good books ..

Richard
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