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Old 15th Oct 2009, 16:16
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I Guess the Catch-22 is that the subject was once thought interesting enough for someone to publish a silhouette/3-view drawing but has subsequently vanished almost totally from written/digital memory..........
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Well finally I came first!
Sorry gentlemen I declare open house because I'm in the middle of nowhere and have no files or records available.
Cheers
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Old 15th Oct 2009, 18:13
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Very nicely done carson. Check PM.

Another cantilever high wing. This one won't last long.....

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Helio Courier
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Old 15th Oct 2009, 18:44
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Wrong. It's the Super Courier.

Sod it!

All yours Buddy.
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Old 15th Oct 2009, 20:56
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A low wing one this time....

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Baynes - Youngman - something?
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Old 16th Oct 2009, 08:52
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Do you mean the HL.1?
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Old 16th Oct 2009, 09:46
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Don't know. Busy working:-(
Just saw the flaps and wondered.
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Old 16th Oct 2009, 12:43
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Not a Youngman-Baynes
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Old 16th Oct 2009, 21:47
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I'm afraid its another of those 1946 Paris Show jobs which seem guaranteed to stall the thread............
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Old 16th Oct 2009, 22:44
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Sipa S-20 ?
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Old 17th Oct 2009, 15:29
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Well done Walter-Karl. Indeed it is the SIPA S.20. This report says it is a prototype, but may have been a mock-up. You have control............Doug
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The rear windows in the silhouette differ from the S.20 in the photo. As well, the elevator in the silhouette is split versus the solid elevator in the photo.

This A.S.O.-1070 "Griffon", is also built in 1946, and is quite similar to the S.I.P.A. S.20.

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Old 17th Oct 2009, 17:58
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The rear windows in the silhouette differ from the S.20 in the photo. As well, the elevator in the silhouette is split versus the solid elevator in the photo
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I agree, which is why I thought the picture might be a mock-up. The silhouette was published in ' 46 alongside the image and text, the nose of the plan view intrudes into the latter.
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Old 17th Oct 2009, 20:29
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Good evening gentlemen - if I may have two penneth here...

I agree with evansb. The photograph does not depict the same aeroplane as the silhouette.

I have taken both images into my computer software imaging programme, which tells me that the distance from the rear cabin window to the leading edge of the tailplane is some four feet different between the two!

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Old 17th Oct 2009, 20:38
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I understand that a prototype of the S-20 was built and this was shown at the 1946 Paris Salon, although with a different cabin arrangement than shown in the 3-view. It seems the aircraft was dismantled before it had flown and thus all development was terminated.

OPEN HOUSE please
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Old 17th Oct 2009, 21:06
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Well, its been fascinating to watch unfold. Thanks guys. The Avia, SIPA and evan's Griffon are all completely new to me. Even now I'm not finding much about them on the net. I think that with one11's silhouette, although slightly different to the photo, the general layout remains the same, which is what I was trying to locate. Aviation in 1946 was obviously very busy.

Walter, if I may ask, without revealing too many trade secrets, how in hell did you find the SIPA?! When you start posting images I feel they're going to be very "scary."
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Old 17th Oct 2009, 21:42
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Aviation in 1946 was obviously very busy
The French industry alone showed 60 designs at Paris 1946 - a few were pre-1939 revivals and a few more modified WW2 German designs but the majority new post 1945 designs.
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Old 18th Oct 2009, 09:16
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Dear Noyade, no secrets. It just happened that I "specialised" on aircraft since 1945 and apparently people copy the modern PCs and develop some sort of database in their heads and remember that could be a....... It is always fun if the guess turns out to be correct. My database started (back in the early-1960s) with a handwritten file card with photo/details for each type and has now been moved to my PC (although for each new type I still make a filecard!). I am sure that the above must be familiar to many of the PPRUNEers.
One11 is so correct on the French postwar aviation, although the USA also produced numerous new aircraft (most of which never entered production). I understand that especially light aviation in France afterWW2 was strongly supported by the government and that could be an explanation why France produced (it still does) so many homebuilt aircraft types, several of which evolved into factory-built types.
At this moment no posting from my side. Am busy re-arranging the ""attick" and check what I all got in the filing shoe boxes.
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