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Old 1st Oct 2009, 16:34
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Sorry, not from Supermarine.
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Thanks for the welcome LM and Skytrain!

I look forward to participating in this excellant Forum; however, until I have got my internet access set up at home I won't set any challenges as I usually only log on at work before going home and and not at weekends and that leaves it too long to respond to answers or question. Maybe soon!

May I venture to suggest that the aircraft in latest challenge are Supermarine Stranraers. Withdrawn due to above!
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Old 1st Oct 2009, 18:20
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Most if not all Supermarine flying boats were squarish around the cockpit, weren't they? To me these are more American..... Strangely Italian comes to mind too. Carson? RR
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Old 1st Oct 2009, 19:42
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RR

I've never seen an italian seaplane with a double tail.Why couldn't they be japanese?
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Maybe.... Its not really my best subject! RR
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Old 1st Oct 2009, 23:05
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Keystone PK-1's perhaps?
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Old 1st Oct 2009, 23:30
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Interesting, the aircraft have the look of Supermarine Scapa's about them, or possibly a version of the Felixstowe F5.
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Old 1st Oct 2009, 23:35
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IF not the PK-1, then maybe the Martin PM-2?

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Old 1st Oct 2009, 23:36
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Mel is spot on Well done. Keystone built 18 PK-1s for the U.S. Navy under licence based on the Naval Aircraft Factory PN-12. The ships were based in Hawaii. You have control.

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Next Challenge

Thank you Bri. Here is the next one:-

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Old 2nd Oct 2009, 07:14
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Russian.... I'm pretty sure but I've lent my books out!!!!!! A YAK perhaps? RR

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Old 2nd Oct 2009, 10:29
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Mel's Challenge

RR you got the first bit right it was a Russian aircraft but not a YAK.
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Old 2nd Oct 2009, 11:27
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OK, still without books but Mya' seems to come to mind? I seem to remember it being from a designer normally know for something else. RR
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Old 2nd Oct 2009, 11:30
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H Mel. A product of MAI (Moscow Aviation Institute) know as EMAI or EMAI-1-34 or E-1 and named Sergi Ordzhonikidze....?
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Old 2nd Oct 2009, 12:36
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Noyade has it.
That is the one.

As magnesium has a density of 1.74, compared with 2.7 for aluminium and almost 8 for typical steels, it seemed reasonable to the MAI management to investigate its use as a primary structural material. In 1932 such a project was authorised by Director A M Belenkovich and the GUAP (civil aviation ministry), and a year later a design team was assembled under Professors S I Zonshain and A L Gimmelfarb, with construction led by N F Chekhonin. A four-seat low-wing monoplane was quickly designed, and flown about 600 times in 1934-39. It was also statically tested at (CAHI) TsAGI. The EMAI was also known as the E-MAI, Elektron MAI, EMAI-1, E-l, EMAI-I-34 and Sergo Ordzhonikidze.
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Graeme please check PM.
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Old 2nd Oct 2009, 12:42
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Blimey!!!!

I wouldn't like to have a fire in that one then....
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Agreed. However:-
The EMAI-1 was judged to be a complete success, with a structure weight '42 per cent lower than using aluminium, steel tube or wood'. The fire risk was not considered a serious hazard, and according to MAI the main reason for not taking the use of Elektron further was because in the USSR there was not enough spare electric power available to produce the magnesium.
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Thanks Mel. Looks like it had a variety of names! This machine also had a number of names and utilised different engines, but the registration remained the same. It's all I could come up with at the moment and bending the rules, it's in colour. Sorry, but its been a long day and I'm getting old...bedtime.

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Old 2nd Oct 2009, 13:24
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Marcoux Bromberg Special R3 ?
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Old 2nd Oct 2009, 13:25
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A Keith Rider, could be the Marcoux-Bromberg Special, but I'll have to look.

Rats! Beaten again!
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