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Buster Hyman 9th Oct 2020 14:32


Originally Posted by currawong (Post 10901046)
Penal colony?

:}

Are you in Victoria too?

Turnleft080 12th Oct 2020 00:02


Originally Posted by Turnleft080 (Post 10836627)
So much for closing the VIC/NSW border. A little cluster or spot fire has jumped the fence to Liverpool/Campbelltown.
What might that mean? Lockdown 1 failed because we are now into week 1 of 6 of lockdown 2. Wether we go stage 3 or
rumour has it stage 4 tomorrow, Dan's government has 5 weeks to flatten the curve again. May well he do that.
Everything opens up again like a flower, and it just needs another indiscretion, numbers go up again. Lockdown 2 failed.
A lockdown 3 is economically out of the question. The people will have a say on that. Only one way to go.

I thought I drag my quote down from July 14. Good to see the WHO drongos catching up.
Dan following his commo lockdown model for the past 10 weeks is about to have more raw egg splashed all over him.
Having just said that Dan's right hand man has just quit. Chris Eccles. Slowly but surely Dan's government is falling apart.
Next on the chopping block.

Cafe City 12th Oct 2020 01:43


Originally Posted by Blackout (Post 10902741)
NSW, VIC, QLD Premiers, will soon be given the chop !

Gladys should probably stand up in the box right now, resign and walk out of the Court and never be seen again....
In deep $hit

Green.Dot 12th Oct 2020 02:14


Originally Posted by Cafe City (Post 10902747)
Gladys should probably stand up in the box right now, resign and walk out of the Court and never be seen again....
In deep $hit

And so one of the only Leaders in the country who seems to have any capacity to handle COVID and the interests of the economy at the same time could potentially be walking.

You couldnít make this script up if you tried!!:ugh:

blubak 12th Oct 2020 02:20


Originally Posted by Blackout (Post 10902741)
NSW, VIC, QLD Premiers, will soon be given the chop !

Andrews is deep in it now,its so obvious now he knows his cover has been blown wide open by Eccles resigning.
Credlin has all the facts again,she is so composed.

dr dre 12th Oct 2020 09:48


Originally Posted by Green.Dot (Post 10902752)

You couldnít make this script up if you tried!!:ugh:

Yes you could, Berejiklian isnít the first NSW Liberal leader this decade whoís corruption was exposed at ICAC....

ScepticalOptomist 12th Oct 2020 10:10


Originally Posted by Blackout (Post 10902741)
NSW, VIC, QLD Premiers, will soon be given the chop !

Iíll be doing my bit to vote the QLD clown out.

Ragnor 12th Oct 2020 10:18


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 10902889)
Yes you could, Berejiklian isnít the first NSW Liberal leader this decade whoís corruption was exposed at ICAC....

Corrupt how? Can you substantiate your comment?

Her testimony was purely there on a personal level due to phone taps as was said at the end of her testimony if you watched it and not as an investigative one. She is not being incriminated at all in the male MPs corrupt Allegations.

dr dre 12th Oct 2020 11:44


Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10902902)
Corrupt how? Can you substantiate your comment?

Her testimony was purely there on a personal level due to phone taps as was said at the end of her testimony if you watched it and not as an investigative one. She is not being incriminated at all in the male MPs corrupt Allegations.

Her knowledge of a corrupt MP she was sleeping with if you want to be exact. I know the actions of some leaders lately (Trump comes to mind) have made folks numb to how a proper leader should morally act, but generally if you lead a party and a state you shouldnít be secretly getting under the covers with someone who you would undoubtedly know is corrupt, it comprises your integrity and leadership. She pretty much lied to ICAC (donít forget, itís an Independent Commission) ver having no knowledge of a company her ďfriendĒ had corrupt dealings with, yet phone recordings revealed her an her ďfriendĒ openly discussing it. Thereís also been some interesting stuff revealed by some decent investigators about her and Barilaroís land management rorts. Barry OíFarrell resigned for less.

Square Bear 12th Oct 2020 12:16

You might want to be a little bit careful there Dr Dre....whilst the Premier has said she had a close personal relationship with the MP, she has stated that it was not intimate.

Thus your comment she slept with a corrupt MP may be off the mark....and in the light of the Premiers statement, makes your assumption and statement quite presumptuous, opening you up to what Tony Abbott was accused of, for a much less accusation.

Moral is.....never comment on the virtue of a Lady, it is quite simply unbecoming.

Transition Layer 12th Oct 2020 14:16


Originally Posted by Square Bear (Post 10902977)
You might want to be a little bit careful there Dr Dre....whilst the Premier has said she had a close personal relationship with the MP, she has stated that it was not intimate.

Iím sure most of us here have had sexual relationships that werenít intimate :}

Buster Hyman 12th Oct 2020 15:09


Originally Posted by Transition Layer (Post 10903052)
Iím sure most of us here have had sexual relationships that werenít intimate :}

True, but I think they're talking about having it with another person TL.....

Ragnor 12th Oct 2020 21:42

Not entirely correct Dre! I watched the ICAC testimony as it was televised her testimony was cut by ICAC as she was leading into graphic personal details, what that is we will never know but you can speculate.
The man in questions phone, emails and all forms of communications were tapped for sometime. ICAC didnít even know GB involvement until she called him. His dealings were never discussed on the phone with her she was telling the truth when she said she didnít discuss the dealings few text messages that meant nothing only one on selling a particular property other than that she has done nothing wrong criminally. Morally well thatís for you and others to judge.
When the main person gets interviewed tomorrow that will be a show to watch (Wednesday)
She is the best premier in the country at the moment I hope she survives, her party is appearing to support her but external pressures could become to great. The next week will tell.

Green.Dot 12th Oct 2020 21:55

Labor or Liberal diehards- who gives a fcvk right now? Letís deal with COVID and pick the best leaders for the job.

If you could clone Gladys or Dan to run all the other states I know which one I would chose.

Green.Dot 12th Oct 2020 22:09

Time to make some more popcorn

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-...chdog/12748400

Ragnor 12th Oct 2020 22:13

I know, itís a mess right. Queen P was always going to win anyway QLD silly enough to give her a run again.

Transition Layer 13th Oct 2020 06:24


Originally Posted by Buster Hyman (Post 10903078)
True, but I think they're talking about having it with another person TL.....

Well played :D

Turnleft080 13th Oct 2020 06:25

Sutton says Victoria is the hardest place for trace contact. That's coming from him a prof.
Then contact tracing in the slums of Brazil, Afghanistan, India would be much easier then.

We will maintain the lockdown according to the science and highest medical advice.
Note they have never disclosed this so called fantastic science and medical advice or the
brilliant model we work on. What about the yesterday's statement from the WHO, that lockdowns were meant
to bend the curve only. After that you contact trace. All to hard apparently, just lock it down so much easier.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...try/australia/

The graph shows about a month ago lockdown should of ended.
Again today, VIC 13 cases, fully lockdown stage 4, compulsory masks
and NSW, 12 cases, fully open, no lockdown where a mask if you wish.
And I heard on 3aw today that a lady broke the 5km rule and actually went 6km
to get to the IGA shopping centre. Not a good enough excuse I'm afraid, that will be $1652 mam.
The talk back is starting to get angry now. Don't hold your breath for Sunday.




turbantime 13th Oct 2020 06:35

Whilst I agree that your lockdowns are overtly punitive you canít compare the numbers of NSW v Vic today. 6 out of the 13 were overseas travellers in hotel quarantine. Of the remaining 7, 5 were in one household and 2 were reported yesterday but included in todayís numbers and all linked to existing clusters.

It diminishes an argument completely when the stats are cherry picked.

I wish all of you in Melbourne well and hope that this nightmare, thrust upon you by incompetent leaders, ends soon.

Buster Hyman 13th Oct 2020 06:49


Originally Posted by Transition Layer (Post 10903479)
Well played :D

:p Taken in the spirit it was intended. (I forgot the Emoji) :ok:


Originally Posted by Green.Dot (Post 10903329)
Labor or Liberal diehards- who gives a fcvk right now? Letís deal with COVID and pick the best leaders for the job.

Initially, with the National Cabinet, I thought we had mature leadership across the board that put aside petty politics to get the job done. That seemed to last for a while, but it's all gone out the window & party allegiances are dictating the narrative. Once the Politicians went back to their party lines, the public followed their lead. God help us if we're ever threatened militarily!


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