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Green.Dot 29th Oct 2020 19:36


Originally Posted by currawong (Post 10914314)
:confused:

Why?

If there is an outbreak, nobody will be going anywhere...

Because she is a arrogant hypocrite.

It would be inhumane to lockdown QLDers in the sunshine state.

Ragnor 29th Oct 2020 20:00

O.K lay your bets for today, As the election is tomorrow and this is her political swan song, I'm going that Queen P will only ease the border allowing people as far south as Port Macquarie maybe Newcastle, thus most likely not improving the aviation sector anyway. Definitely wont be allowing anyone from Sydney within 14 days to travel to QLD without hotel isolation.

Ladloy 29th Oct 2020 20:42


Originally Posted by Green.Dot (Post 10914573)
Because she is a arrogant hypocrite.

It would be inhumane to lockdown QLDers in the sunshine state.

Gladys is a big hypocrite too. Asking for qld borders to open while vic border is shut.

currawong 29th Oct 2020 21:12


Originally Posted by Green.Dot (Post 10914573)
Because she is a arrogant hypocrite.

It would be inhumane to lockdown QLDers in the sunshine state.

:confused:

QLD was locked down...

goodonyamate 29th Oct 2020 21:19


Originally Posted by Ladloy (Post 10914602)
Gladys is a big hypocrite too. Asking for qld borders to open while vic is shut.


do I really live in a country with such stupid people.

How long has NSW been out of lockdown and living with the virus? And how long has Victoria been out of lockdown and living with the virus?

NSW has proved, through tracing and testing, they can keep living.

VIC hasn’t even started, but I sure hope they can.

QLD has proved nothing, except that if you keep testing numbers low you won’t get any positive results. It is still in the community in QLD. It is being found in the sewerage at various places throughout the state.

QLD reminds of the old ostrich ‘head in the sand’. She gives the impression of doing something when actually she is doing nothing.

my family live in Brissy. I live in NSW. I can’t go and see them without quarantine, and they can’t come here then go home without quarantine (not even in their own home!)

we just had a lovely 2 weeks in Northern NSW where they met our little boy for the first time. Off they go back to QLD, no quarantine. So how is that different to them driving to my house just north of Sydney.

if VIC’s path out of lockdown mirrors NSW, and in 3 months time the NSW/VIC border is still closed, then I will agree about Gladys.

QLD has the dumbest CHO and premier in Australia’s history.
And given what happened in VIC, that’s really saying something.

blubak 29th Oct 2020 21:38

Dumbest CHO
 
Yes,couldnt agree more & what about the health minister,like i have said before,he makes queen p look good.
They need to get their testing going again before it drops to zero,oh wait,then they could bleat even harder about zero cases & slap each other on the back even harder.

currawong 29th Oct 2020 21:40

I would encourage all to recall the results in QLD of the recent Federal election.

And then temper that with this -

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-...rders/12819658

SRFred 29th Oct 2020 21:46


Originally Posted by Ladloy (Post 10914602)
Gladys is a big hypocrite too. Asking for qld borders to open while vic border is shut.

Actually in NSW at least one NSW checkpoint leaves NSW residents at risk because it is 50 km from the border and NSW locals have to go through the checkpoint circus to get to town. There is nothing to stop Victorians entering and interacting with the locals and returning to Victoria. We've been told the reason for the location is that the ADF guys aren't allowed to drive on dirt roads or at night as they have hire cars!

Square Bear 29th Oct 2020 23:46


Gladys is a big hypocrite too. Asking for qld borders to open while vic border is shut.
Bit rich, .....VICTORIA has shown how to reduce the transmission of the virus by virtue of imposing a very strict curfew, a 5 mile from home limit, shutting down business and shops, allowing its citizens out for a few hours, locking citizens in its Housing Commission Flats, and imposing a "Ring of Steel" around the Metro area. How soon some forget!!!

NSW has shown how to reduce the transmission by excellent contact tracing while still allowing the State to work and prosper with limited restrictions.

I can certainly understand the NSW Premier wanting to wait until VIC could prove they were as capable.

As for QLD....one can only sense that it is based on the Election and the Political advantage it give the incumbent, although I would doubt that the Tourism Industry (and those that were there employed) in SE Qld, Cairns or the Whitsunday area would thank her. The airline industry certainly doesn't.

Ladloy 29th Oct 2020 23:54


Originally Posted by goodonyamate (Post 10914626)
do I really live in a country with such stupid people.

How long has NSW been out of lockdown and living with the virus? And how long has Victoria been out of lockdown and living with the virus?

NSW has proved, through tracing and testing, they can keep living.

VIC hasn’t even started, but I sure hope they can.

QLD has proved nothing, except that if you keep testing numbers low you won’t get any positive results. It is still in the community in QLD. It is being found in the sewerage at various places throughout the state.

QLD reminds of the old ostrich ‘head in the sand’. She gives the impression of doing something when actually she is doing nothing.

my family live in Brissy. I live in NSW. I can’t go and see them without quarantine, and they can’t come here then go home without quarantine (not even in their own home!)

we just had a lovely 2 weeks in Northern NSW where they met our little boy for the first time. Off they go back to QLD, no quarantine. So how is that different to them driving to my house just north of Sydney.

if VIC’s path out of lockdown mirrors NSW, and in 3 months time the NSW/VIC border is still closed, then I will agree about Gladys.

QLD has the dumbest CHO and premier in Australia’s history.
And given what happened in VIC, that’s really saying something.

Regional vic has been virtually covid free for months now and NSW now has similar active cases to Vic. Keep the border control in place and move the goalposts to the ring of steel, let regional victorians move on with their life and allow them access into NSW via the current permit system, and recheck the figures in 3-4 weeks and then release the Melbournians into NSW. This will free up Qlink and Rex to service Mildura and Albury.

Ladloy 30th Oct 2020 00:04


Originally Posted by Square Bear (Post 10914696)
Bit rich, .....VICTORIA has shown how to reduce the transmission of the virus by virtue of imposing a very strict curfew, a 5 mile from home limit, shutting down business and shops, allowing its citizens out for a few hours, locking citizens in its Housing Commission Flats, and imposing a "Ring of Steel" around the Metro area. How soon some forget!!!

NSW has shown how to reduce the transmission by excellent contact tracing while still allowing the State to work and prosper with limited restrictions.

I can certainly understand the NSW Premier wanting to wait until VIC could prove they were as capable.

As for QLD....one can only sense that it is based on the Election and the Political advantage it give the incumbent, although I would doubt that the Tourism Industry (and those that were there employed) in SE Qld, Cairns or the Whitsunday area would thank her. The airline industry certainly doesn't.

All of the new cases in Vic have been from people in isolation tied to clusters. The system is working.

wheels_down 30th Oct 2020 01:04

I don’t think NSW will be sitting quietly now. What a blow.

A large chunk of Virgin staff are stood down until the end of Jan. It seems that they planned that one well, I don’t we will see much movement until the end of the School Holidays. In which is the end of the peak season.

I do feel for the QLD tourism operators who are potentially facing a lack of business for the first 3-4 months next year with large rainfall predicted.

Wingspar 30th Oct 2020 01:14

Let’s see what Deb decides on Sunday!

goodonyamate 30th Oct 2020 01:21

If she does win, her first act should be to sack the slimy weasel of a CHO

Scooter Rassmussin 30th Oct 2020 01:42

Maybe people who were born in Australia and respect the place should have free passage between borders , A passport and Birth certificate should be all thats needed.
Remember the majority of Australians and Victorians are doing the right thing , a small minority of mostly foreign descent have no respect for Australia and would be happy to derail the system again , in my opinion .
It would help if the people causing breaches were imprisoned rather than let off .

Wingspar 30th Oct 2020 01:43

As long as I don’t have to see or hear the Deputy Premier give a press conference again!
He makes running your fingernails down a blackboard seem like a calming thing to do!

wheels_down 30th Oct 2020 04:24


Originally Posted by Wingspar (Post 10914737)
As long as I don’t have to see or hear the Deputy Premier give a press conference again!
He makes running your fingernails down a blackboard seem like a calming thing to do!

Is it just me or does he seem a tad out of his depth?

I had no idea the state was so far under water in debt. I guess one thing about Deb, is the state will be run via Scomo, however if that results in much needed financial improvement then so be it.

blubak 30th Oct 2020 04:54


Originally Posted by wheels_down (Post 10914775)
Is it just me or does he seem a tad out of his depth?

I had no idea the state was so far under water in debt. I guess one thing about Deb, is the state will be run via Scomo, however if that results in much needed financial improvement then so be it.

I think hes a bit of a mummys boy,precious little person.
Its interesting to look at luxury escapes right now,90% of the deals are for queensland locations,shows you how desperate the tourism operators are for business up there.
Im sure though queen p & her tag along peanut would be happy to tell you what a great job they are doing for ALL queenslanders.

DanV2 30th Oct 2020 06:36

In addition to Queensland opening up to the rest of NSW except Sydney.

WA will be opening up to QLD, SA, NT, TAS, ACT from November 14
NSW & VIC travellers or WA residents returning from NSW/VIC will still have to quarantine in WA.

So overall, the border situation after November 14 will basically be only "locked to Victorians" from most states. Still locked to Greater Syd (Qld) and all of NSW (WA).

https://www.businessnewsaus.com.au/a...-november.html

wheels_down 30th Oct 2020 06:43

The majority of crews in this country are Melbourne or Sydney based, and even those in Brisbane/Perth/Adelaide cycle aircraft via those two cities so really does not do much getting people back at work.

You can see why Alan is pissed as it still does not enable him to move much yet. In his book we are still playing around the edges.

Jetstar and Virgin have what, a 1/4 of crews based in Vic?


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