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jrfsp 24th Feb 2021 11:11


Originally Posted by Angle of Attack (Post 10996735)
Closing Credits of “Get Smart” Roll!

Boom Qld border shut tonight to NZ, they had 2 more high school kids in Auckland test positive who were in managed isolation. I’m expecting 2 more years of this crap, it will get better slowly but it will still be crap. International? I’m thinking late 2022 by the way these clowns are operating.

Who cares, its a non reciprocal agreement with NZ anyway. We're almost at the point of unrestricted domestic travel - how stupid would it be if we let covid enter from NZ, can you imagine the consequence - lockdowns, public uproar etc. The risk seems tiny, but is it worth the risk when we have waited so long to get to this point, especially when its a non-reciprocal bubble.

Angle of Attack 24th Feb 2021 13:28

Public uproar? I’ll tell you a little secret buddy, every single outbreak since a year ago has been linked to shitty hotel quarantine. The only interstate infection was to NSW while VIC was having hundreds of cases per day.
Let that sink in for a while, while you are dreaming, unrestricted domestic travel will get destroyed just when it seems it’s all ok, I’ll give it another 2 years until they sort it. 2 more cases in managed isolation in Auckland? You have to be shitting me, this is ridiculous.

Angle of Attack 24th Feb 2021 13:31

Again I will repeat the only interstate infection has been from VIC to NSW when they had hundreds of cases per day, yeah there was a couple of chicks that travelled to QLD but only caused a few cases. Oh I just realised you live in WA, forget all I said, just live in your isolation, that’s much better!

Angle of Attack 24th Feb 2021 13:34

The risk is so tiny that the wings will detach from the aircraft when we fly them so let’s negate that risk? You sand gropers are so fing stupid you don’t even realise it

Angle of Attack 24th Feb 2021 13:48

If you think domestic borders are now in a nirvana good on you, they will be slammed shut multiple times for the rest of this year. Until people actually rise up and tell these idiots nothing will change.

jrfsp 24th Feb 2021 14:31

Why don’t you pop a couple of valium and get yourself off to bed, must be late over there —wouldn’t want you bursting a blood vessel over that keyboard

McLimit 24th Feb 2021 15:38

AoA, valium has popped up as a tool quite a few times on this thread, maybe it's a western stater thing? Maybe that's what they're on?

Hasn't seemed to have calmed their state of paranoia though?

Chronic Snoozer 24th Feb 2021 21:41


Originally Posted by Angle of Attack (Post 10996845)
If you think domestic borders are now in a nirvana good on you, they will be slammed shut multiple times for the rest of this year. Until people actually rise up and tell these idiots nothing will change.

They’re just following the health advice of the CMOs.

SHVC 24th Feb 2021 21:55

Queen P in the North is requesting an urgent national cabinet meeting because a Dr broke the rules now the roll out is being hampered. The way she is carrying on it is further killing public confidence when the Federal Gov is at no fault here.
every medical practitioner is aware that the course must be completed to administer the vaccine.

Australopithecus 24th Feb 2021 22:23

An article in The Atlantic discusses the American perspective on when the pandemic can be declared over. There are a few similarities but of course there is a wide gulf between them and how the states and people here view risks and responsibilities.

The article mentions that once covid deaths approximate the annual flu toll might be an appropriate milestone to re-open society and borders. That seems to be a measured view, given that Covid-19 will be with us forever.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...c-over/618122/

Australopithecus 24th Feb 2021 22:29


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 10997120)
Queen P in the North is requesting an urgent national cabinet meeting because a Dr broke the rules now the roll out is being hampered. The way she is carrying on it is further killing public confidence when the Federal Gov is at no fault here.
every medical practitioner is aware that the course must be completed to administer the vaccine.

Have you ever heard of a health care protocol that allows injections without two party patient ID and dose confirmation? That doctor bypassed the mandatory training too, all of which points to a larger individual problem as opposed to something systemic.

SHVC 24th Feb 2021 22:47

My wife is a Dr, she has not done the course and is well aware she can not administer the vaccine. This Dr should of know also. this Dr was employed by the very health agency providing the course.

Foxxster 25th Feb 2021 01:54

Oh dear, I wonder if Mr Joyce has seen this.

Summer holidays hang in the balance after the World Health Organisation urged against using vaccine passports to facilitate international travel.

It said proof of a jab should not be required because there remain 'critical unknowns regarding the efficacy of vaccination in reducing transmission'.

The WHO added that inoculated passengers should not be able to sidestep existing travel restrictions designed to reduce Covid.
Setting out the WHO stance, the interim position paper states: 'At the present time, it is WHO's position that national authorities and conveyance operators should not introduce requirements of proof of COVID-19 vaccination for international travel as a condition for departure or entry.'It is a fresh blow for both holidaymakers and tourism bosses hoping vaccine passports will pave the way for overseas trips.

That people should be mandated to have a vaccine to enjoy greater freedom is a politically divisive issue being fought out in national capitals.

The WHO's paper also says: 'National authorities should choose public health interventions that least infringe on individual freedom of movement.'


Australopithecus 25th Feb 2021 02:05

I don’t quite understand the WHO: they were about six weeks late declaring the pandemic. They have engaged in appeasement with China regarding origins and reporting. Now they are engaged in hand-wringing over some “right” that is certainly not a given, nor does it acknowledge any nation's absolute right to decide conditions of entry.

There is no way that this policy is going to fly.

Foxxster 25th Feb 2021 02:10


Originally Posted by Australopithecus (Post 10997200)
I don’t quite understand the WHO: they were about six weeks late declaring the pandemic. They have engaged in appeasement with China regarding origins and reporting. Now they are engaged in hand-wringing over some “right” that is certainly not a given, nor does it acknowledge any nation's absolute right to decide conditions of entry.

There is no way that this policy is going to fly.

oh to call them grossly incompetent is being far to kind. They are the WuHan Health Organisation, the head bought and paid for by China.

yes, see attached as per their press releases. They, like many / most UN organisations are not fit for purpose.


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SOPS 25th Feb 2021 04:02

When this all started, I started a thread ‘ Is the WHO fit for purpose?’. I don’t think it is. It’s been led by China from the start.

WingNut60 25th Feb 2021 08:39


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 10997120)
Queen P in the North is requesting an urgent national cabinet meeting because a Dr broke the rules now the roll out is being hampered. The way she is carrying on it is further killing public confidence when the Federal Gov is at no fault here.
every medical practitioner is aware that the course must be completed to administer the vaccine.

Not quite correct, apparently. The vaccination program in aged care facilities including the necessary training is a federal government-managed initiative.

“Vaccination for residents and staff will be made available through residential aged care facilities where they live or work, and it will be administered through an in-reach workforce provider,” Minister Hunt said.
“Healthcare Australia will be providing the vaccination workforce in New South Wales and Queensland, and Aspen Medical will be responsible for the other states and territories.

Angle of Attack 25th Feb 2021 09:08

Never heard of Valium, well I’ve heard of it but never taken it. Pfizer, AstraZeneca and presumably Moderna Vaccines have shown 100% efficacy in preventing serious disease and hospitalisation with COVID19. Now with a vaccinated population that pretty much makes Covid19 less dangerous than the common flu. In a good year high hundreds die in a bad year high thousands die from flu in Aus, Is McClown still going to close the borders if there is an outbreak of COVID? I think this is the question going into the future, politicians have made out this COVID is like AIDS times 10 when it isn’t. Shut the borders for Flu? Because the Flu was pretty much non existent last year it will come back with vengeance this year or next.

McLimit 25th Feb 2021 09:11

He will close it for 1 case the arseclown.

SHVC 25th Feb 2021 09:14


Originally Posted by WingNut60 (Post 10997329)
Not quite correct, apparently. The vaccination program in aged care facilities including the necessary training is a federal government-managed initiative.

I meant the fed gov is not responsible for rogue Drs. This Dr would of know they were not qualified.


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