Just see what is happening in the southern states of the US. It will be the same in QLD.

You mean Her Excellency, the Governor of Queensland.

“awash with covid” really!! Bloody he’ll mate NSW and VIC have been open for a while now and we are not “awash with covid” the fact is, numbers are still declining. NSW and VIC Ppl are not super spreaders so don’t look each individual thinking they are Covid is barley mentioned here now we have moved on. I didn’t even realize WA is still closed untill old mate made some noise to try and make himself relevant but, no one in this state cares anymore.

sure Sydney is doing fine. Just head into regional areas such as Queanbeyan, south coast and Albury. The numbers are astronomically high on a per capita basis. Higher than Sydney's case and death rate during peak delta and no one seems to care.

Precise areas and numbers, please.

I think you mean affected. Different meaning if you're 'effected' e.g. "the process was effected by the pressing of the button" as opposed to "the entire state was affected by the pandemic".

This is the other blown out issue, attributing every cause death to "delta" sure they may have had covid when they passed, did it actually kill them, not in all cases. A good flu will kill an elderly person or immune compromised individual. Its time to move on and get on with life there is an economic storm coming which will have much more drastic effects than covid. If certain states want to stay locked away and come up with numbers that are not achievable for opening good on them leave them be.
The WHO need to down grade as its circulating relativity constant with in the world population.

Albury - 737 active cases and 9 deaths Since early October from Murrumbidgee health district
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- Going by this the cases would equate to 69278 active and 846 deaths in Sydney. In the space of 5 weeks. That's ONLY half of the twin city. From all reports from friends who live there in the medical field, the only hospital in Albury is full and unfit for covid patients. They have been moved to the cancer ward because it's the only place with up to date positive pressure facilities. Sydney and Melbourne won't take the patients either.

Southern health is south coast, Yass and Queanbeyan, reporting 424 cases since June, no report on deaths as I expect some are added to ACT numbers. Equivalent of 8500 sydney cases.

I'm not arguing for lockdowns or border closures, I'm just showing the facts that are hidden in the 'declining' numbers. It's all sunshine and rainbows in Sydney currently but some regional areas are hurting by decisions made 8 hours away. Per capita, regional areas are struggling and are more awash with covid than Sydney ever was.

Then we’ll shortly see if your ‘astronomic’ numbers lead to catastrophic results.

You're missing my point, but anyway.

What's your point? Do you want to live under a rock for the rest of your life?

Exactly the opposite and I said that. I'm saying everyone is living under a rock with their ignorance that Sydney's numbers going down means it's a great success for the state.


My point is people think that opening up is great and everything is fine, but as usual, the Premier for Sydney, PM for Sydney and the Premier for Melbourne have forgotten about the regional areas which are under immense pressure by the crippled health system. There is next to no reporting on the issues facing regional areas because the numbers don't look alarming, but by a per capita standard they are much much worse than anything seen in Australia.

You are bundling together three areas - "regional areas such as Queanbeyan, south coast and Albury" - that have markedly different COVID-19 outcomes.

If you look at NSW Health's Locally acquired COVID-19 cases for the last four weeks up to 8pm 6 November 2021 you see the following:

Queanbeyan-Palerang Regional local government area, population 62,500 (0.8 percent of the total NSW population) had 1.1 percent of the cases (78 out of 6,979 cases); an over-representation of some 37.5 percent.

Illawarra Shoalhaven local health district, population 387,600 (4.7 percent) had 4.7 percent of the cases (328); no over-representation.

Southern NSW local health district, population about 220,000 (2.7 percent) had 1.6 percent of the cases (112); an under-representation of about 40 percent.

Murrumbidgee local health district (includes Albury), population 242,840 (3.0 percent) had 9.7 percent of the cases (678); an over-representation of some 225 percent.

Albury local government area, population 54,350 (0.7 percent) had 8 percent of the cases (556); an over-representation of some 1,000 percent.

Very clearly, Albury should be a concern but that concern needs to be tempered against the relatively small population.

Noting that we are dealing with four weeks worth of data, the aggregated cases per capita for the various areas/districts are:

• Queanbeyan-Palerang Regional LGA - 1.25 cases/1,000 population
• Illawarra Shoalhaven LHD - 0.85 cases/1,000 population
• Southern NSW LHD - 0.51 cases/1,000 population
• Murrumbidgee LHD - 2.8 cases/1,000 population
• Albury LGA - 10.23 cases/1,000 population

At the peak of outbreak we were seeing 4 week aggregated cases per capita in excess of 11-12 cases/1,000 population in Western amd South Western Sydney. And those districts had populations some twenty times larger than Albury's.

Much of the Queanbeyan-Palerang and Yass LGAs were in the Canberra bubble and IMO should be considered along with the ACT figures as they were free to travel in and out of the ACT without restriction.

Also the huge matter of population density. You have to be in close contact to transmit/contract covid, which requires high population densities or large congregations on regular basis. The factors for transmission to get out of control in country Australia is just not there with simple precautions. Melbourne suffers greatly from high density and centralised gatherings, meaning covid spreads like a grassfire at the end of summer. Sydney has high density but much more segregated population with several main population centers separated by topography, that don't interact like in Melbourne. A bit like Geelong has weathered the storm fairly well due to it being remote from Melbourne both physically and to a point socially.

Country Australia is also very different in how society interacts compared to say the USA, which have more social interactions that promote the spread.

How are we looking for hitting the predicted death toll numbers of about a month ago? After opening up?

I’m waiting also. Cases are dropping ICU, hospitalizations and ventilator cases also falling. Seems NT are still playing silly buggers also doing lockdowns without even a case all because a person went somewhere. These states and territories are out of control.

I saw something about a Darwin lockdown I just assumed it was an old article from months ago. How very wrong I was.

This is quite embarrassing on the global stage. Those American shock jocks, feel free to rip us another one again, we deserve it.

Who knows what Anna’s plans are next month when it arrives. I can see myself stood down in the near future while the (most) rest of the country, and the world, gets on with it.

Anna - backed by the Health Advice gave us a figure of hundreds in the firsts months of "opening up' - My memory is 300.

We need to fact check some of the claims (based on "Best Medical Advice") - thank Christ they do not do fuel plans!

Pretty soon, in Victoria, there'll be none of this 'Medical advice' nonsense! It'll be based on the whim of some dopey Minister! :ugh: