Australia has huge amounts of AZ in reserve, that is not an issue, so much so Morrison has given away 5 million doses to the Pacific. It's also made in Melbourne now. The article is a disingenuous propaganda piece trying to defer blame from the government, from what it says only 2 million doses have been delivered yet 6+ million doses have been administered (TGA). You have to remember that ANYONE over 18 years old can get the AZ if they sign a waiver, this has been the case now for a number of months. The lack of information and scaremongering was before AZ was even available, as the issues arose during testing.

Pfizer delays for Australia is purely that the Morrison Gov put all its eggs in one basket, AZ, and then too late placed backup orders of Pf. This means Australia was way down the waiting list of nations, things have changed recently due to 'deals' being signed, which are in confidence for what reason? Micallef had a funny answer, suggesting we had also placed an overpriced order for more useless helicopters from the US to secure the deal, sadly he's probably more correct than just being funny.

the article was written in April. The blood clot issue didn’t occur until March. Other issue around efficacy were present earlier.

Sweden suspended AZ use in March due the number of clotting events, which had been steadily occurring since start of use in December 2020, and had occurred in trials. At the same time advice from other European countries changed to restrict its use to over 65. The drama around the clotting and TTS had been going on since the drugs introduction in late 2020.

Then why put the question to me?! I think "it's so telling" that you put the question to me not once, but twice, second time suggesting that I was dodging it.

Anyone who completed Year 6 Social Studies would be familiar enough with the Australian political system to know that all this talk about the Commonwealth using nationhood power, S 96 and vertical fiscal imbalance to do an end run on the Constitution and seize a State power is just rank nonsense. It has the tenor of an eight year old enumerating the reasons why unicorns do too exist!

We'll tender that as Exhibit A. Absolutely mind boggling that you apparently believe that.

So, how precisely does the Commonwealth acquire control of health, prevent the states from issuing public health orders, finance S 96 grants if not by legislation? Military fiat? Führerbefehle? Magic wand?

Tender Exhibit B.

Spending bills cannot originate in the Senate. The Constitution is manifestly clear on this.

It's the first sentence! But yeah, what would the "numbers" guy know about politics?

Yes, sure, why not. I suppose that there's an alternate reality somewhere out there where the Federal government seized health powers from the states without any push back from any of the parliament, the states or the courts; managed to change funding allocations and to fund S 96 grants without having to rely on legislation; etc, etc. It is not this reality.

The problem is that no matter how many times you stamp your foot and say that unicorns are real, in this reality, they're not.

None of us here are experts, certainly not me. This reads personal, is there something I should know about behind that.

What a bloody disgrace.

that idiot Queensland chief medical officer aka the quack is at it again. Asked about AstraZeneca at this mornings press conference she again doubled down on her 18 year olds should not get AstraZeneca. Asked what age it was ok for she said 60.

So we have the chook as premier, the goose as deputy premier and the quack as chief medical officer. F*ckers one and all.

When I had the AZ, both times my Doc suggested I took 2x Aspirin a day for 2 days before and 2 weeks afterwards. Made me feel easier even if it didn't do anything real.

When did Ana get back from Tokyo? July 25th wasn’t it?

When is her 14 day quarantine over then based on that date? August 8.

When has the QLD lockdown been extended to? August 8.


hmmmmmmmmmm

Barnaby Joyce, just announced Pilots and Cabin crew up to 50% of the Airlines workforce will be able to now claim the $750 a week regardless
of where they live, aka they dont have to reside in Sydney or Brisbane, as long as they have lost work.

Obviously been lobbied by the Airlines as they probably now realise this Clu$ter won’t end this year, and Standowns will be required….

Useful document available here from the Commonwealth Department of Health about the relative risks of AZ.

I'm fully vaxxed with AZ and perfectly fine. But urge any of you with doubts to seek informed medical advice from your GP. Not from a pilot forum, Facebook, Murdoch press or SkyNews.

Allows them to enact stand downs unilaterally now. Here we go again…

That does not sound good.

Sorry but my rant filter was off and this got through. What exactly is the "bloody disgrace"? Do you disagree with Dr. Young's advice? If so, on what grounds? Do you have qualifications more suitable than Dr. Young's with which to judge the situation and determine the safe age parameters for injection of the experimental AZ therapy? Are you a quack? Let's hear it.

I understood Dr. Young's advice was in keeping with the latest ATAGI advice:

Sounds like good advice to me. What's the real motivation for your dissatisfaction, Foxxster?

Oh.

Informed. Yes, I see the problem. You think it's a disgrace that we don't have informed consent here in Australia. I completely agree.

Xeptu - Nothing personal, sorry if you felt that. Just trying to point out that your stats were not valid.

itsnotthatbloodyhard
[QUOTE][But chance of a fatal clot from AZ is more like 1 in 1000 000./QUOTE]

Xeptu didn't say "Fatal", and then what is the stat for a fatal lightning strike? Anyhow, it is an irrelevant stat, because if I don't go out side during a lightning storm the chance of getting fatally struck is 0. However if I choose to be injected with Astra ..............

Might be time to put on the tin foil hat. Think she gets out on the 9th. You actually spend 15 days in quarantine as the day you arrive is day 0. It 14 complete days

It's got nothing to do with "feel" If you're going to "Name" someone and use statements like "No Idea" It's Personal.

The only time I would support that is when an opinion is clearly not supported by anyone.

[QUOTE=Capn Rex Havoc;11088491]Xeptu - Nothing personal, sorry if you felt that. Just trying to point out that your stats were not valid.

itsnotthatbloodyhard
You are correct. It’s your choice. Choose to be a part of the solution or choose to not get vaccinated and be more likely get infected, more likely to infect others, and almost certainly ensure that the borders stay closed longer and more pilots lose their jobs.

You’re right - it’s your choice. But if you choose to not get vaccinated please don’t complain about border closures.

..who needs the gestapo to take away our freedom to protest when we have our fellow citizens doing the job for them.

according to the CDC, being vaccinated improves neither of those things for you.

https://apnews.com/article/science-h...5ca012b5ef84d1

You are being deliberately obtuse. The current reports from the CDC all emphasise the importance of being vaccinated. The vaccine is for me, the mask is for you. Don’t count on my ongoing dedication to your safety if you can’t be bothered to save yourself.

I can't believe there so many idiots flying aircraft, must be the 6 or so quarts of oil i tip into each engine every few days messing up your brains. If you pilots are so scared of statistics yous better stay at home.