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Originally Posted by logansi (Post 11129986)

The beginning of the recovering starts now, it will be long and bumpy but the worst of the aviation decimation is over.

As long as we get boosters well underway before next winter. UK dragging its feet at the moment heading into winter has many nervous.

Qantas staff to return to work before Christmas as nationwide restart of international travel begins

Fantastic news for Qantas staff. Now the pressure is well and truly on the recalcitrant State Premiers to open up. I think Anna Stay-away will fold pretty quickly, not sure about what's his name in the west.

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Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11129990)

As long as we get boosters well underway before next winter. UK dragging its feet at the moment heading into winter has many nervous.

Yep - I imagine many of us are now beyond the 6 month mark since our second dose. I'm ready for mine, though I say that mindful that we also need to assist our northern neighbours and Pacific cousins with initial vaccinations if we have any hope of warding off the next (worse?) strain. And Australia has elected to cease AstraZeneca production - beggars belief.
News in the paper today says we've also got a large stock of Moderna about to expire - seriously, we couldn't organise a r00t in a brothel with a fist-full of fifties.

NSW is seeing a small steady increase in number, the important one that matter are falling tho. Hospital admission down by 22 today, ventilator consistently falling down further 2 today I U has been falling but remains the same today at 124 this is fantastic news that the vaccines are working. Lord daddy will be hating this.

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Originally Posted by josephfeatherweight (Post 11130285)

The booster issue isn't really a government issue. Pfizer and Moderna have been difficult with submitting the paperwork. Its likely they want more money even if we only paid for the doses.

Tasmania open to everyone, without quarantine from December 15 (presumably, Dec 15 2021...)

Queensland has already stated December 17
NSW, ACT & Vic are already open, only leaving SA & the NT to disclose their dates.

Wes-Tyrannical Australia might be better off speculating what year they are considering reopening, given their health advice seems so starkly different to every other jurisdiction on the planet....

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All vaccinated interstate and international arrivals can enter Tasmania without a need for quarantine from December 15, as long as they have returned a negative COVID-19 test, the state government has announced. When 80 per cent of the Tasmanian population over 16 years is fully vaccinated, interstate and international travellers can enter the state from a high-risk area if they undertake hotel quarantine or qualify for "risk-based" home quarantine.

From December 15, with a 90 per cent vaccination rate of those aged over 12, anyone can enter Tasmania without a need for quarantine as long as they are fully vaccinated. Interstate and international arrivals will need to provide a negative COVID-19 test within 72 hours of travel, but returning Tasmanians will not need a test if they are returning from a trip shorter than seven days. Mr Gutwein said the reopening date of December 15 was a firm one.

"We are not going to turn back from that date," he said. "I'm signalling to every eligible Tasmanian over the age of 12, if you are not vaccinated, get it done, and get it done as soon as you can. "Don't wait until December 14."

'COVID will come to Tasmania, make no mistake' Mr Gutwein said he was confident the vaccination targets would be met if people continued to turn up. He said Tasmania's older and more vulnerable population had influenced the Government's reopening plan. "We know once our borders are relaxed, COVID will come to Tasmania, make no mistake of that," Mr Gutwein said.

The Premier also said the mandatory face mask rule still in place despite the end of the three-day snap lockdown in southern Tasmania would end immediately. That rule had been scheduled to end at 6pm today, but the Premier said it could end early with no new cases. There are still some circumstances where masks are required, including events like the Royal Hobart Show and Salamanca Market. Visitor restrictions for aged care and hospitals will end at 6pm as planned.

Modelling informing reopening plan
Mr Gutwein said modelling from the Kirby Institute was helping inform Tasmania's reopening plan. "This modelling is Tasmanian-centric, updated for the aged specific population of Tasmania and hospital capacity of our state and specific Tasmanian targets for vaccination," he said. "While they do not predict the future, they do help inform plans based on different scenarios." The modelling runs over 200 days and will begin on December 1, and assumes 10 infected cases on day one. The model assumes that during the outbreak, 90 per cent of 12-15 year olds would be vaccinated by mid-January, but Mr Gutwein said he expected Tasmania would reach 90 per cent among that age group sooner. "We expect less impact than what the modelling shows," he said. Mr Gutwein said he expected a plan to vaccinate the 5 to 11-year-old age group would be approved in coming weeks.
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Interesting rules in Tasmania , no test for locals going interstate , at least they are opening
The case numbers in Victoria are a problem , record case numbers 2300 , record deaths & 100 or so on ventilators & rising
Vic Govt are off the charts with their boasting & self-congratulations about what a Jolly Good Show it has all been

Andrews said today "I'm Bloody Proud" - what's he talking about here ?

The concern I have is that if Vic numbers blast through 3000 , 5000 daily - the other States will review their position

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Originally Posted by Telfer86 (Post 11130371)

what other choice does he have really? ppl don't like lock down, ppl don't like to wear mask, many ppl got the 'not my family in the hospital, who cares' attitude....

honestly, I couldn't tell the diff today heading out, looks to me the same amount of cars on the street as the last 3-4 weeks

The VIC lockdown was effectively over a couple of months back. Just now you can go into bars and restaurants and get your haircut.

Yes, this last lockdown in MEL had a distinct "Boy who cried Wolf" feel to it.

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Originally Posted by Telfer86 (Post 11130371)

Ah yes, let’s all hide inside of our homes for the rest of our lives and quiver in fear.

Jane was right, people will die, but it’s a fact of life.

Let’s get on with it and stop counting.

WA will not open anytime soon more than likely April 2022 Lord Daddy is given December 1st and 31st depending which group industry you work in as a deadline for first dose of vaccine. This just proves he is still trying to make noice to keep himself relevant. Stay closed WA please.

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Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11130740)

This just proves he is still trying to make noice to keep himself relevant. Stay closed WA please.

Nah he has his eye on the Federal election and helping Labor as much as possible. Worked for him at the state level.

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Originally Posted by morno (Post 11130595)

Ah yes, let’s all hide inside of our homes for the rest of our lives and quiver in fear.

Jane was right, people will die, but it’s a fact of life.

Let’s get on with it and stop counting.

Why can't we both open up and also care about the death rate? The modelling that every state uses still has contavt traving, home isolation, RAT in businesses. It's simply not a case of ignoring it, but living with it and still making small sacrifices for the hospital system and our compromised loved ones.

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Nah he has his eye on the Federal election and helping Labor as much as possible. Worked for him at the state level.

Might want to be careful as it could implode on him when WA folk see everyone else going to Bali but they are still locked in. Since there is no State election due the voters may take it out on the Federal Labor.

The April date is coincidental with the May dead line for a federal election. It’s rumored Sco Mo is going to call it when getting back from the Glasgow summit. Imagine doing the election in January whilst WA is shut and eastern states are traveling freely around the world. Labor will loose WA big time.

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Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11130848)

right now West Australians couldn't give a flying **** about borders, but will be interesting. Scomo calling it post Glasgow is risky.

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Originally Posted by Ladloy (Post 11130851)

right now West Australians couldn't give a flying **** about borders, but will be interesting. Scomo calling it post Glasgow is risky.

WA is what, 10% of the Australian population? Let them stay closed, the bogans amongst them will miss Bali soon enough and demand change. McGowan will do as he’s directed by public sentiment.

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Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11130740)

So if the deadline is Dec 31st where’d you pull April from?

What I can’t understand is why all these people that live east of our border are obsessed with what we do in WA.

You are all open, enjoy it. Leave us alone. We enjoy what we have her. And you might be shocked .. but WA is not full of bogans.