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Taggert 25th Oct 2021 07:36


Originally Posted by logansi (Post 11131817)
Exactly this. I've mostly supported Dan through the pandemic and always said to friends that, that would change if he didn't open up once the best available protection was available to all. People who criticise him and use childish names have been fed lies that this wasn't always the plan, be it Victoria or NSW the long-term plan was the same, the only real difference being that sadly Victoria ended up having the outbreak last year NSW didn't. I will never understand how people, including some here are praising NSW but still chanting "chairman dan", Victoria is literally doing everything NSW is doing, opening borders, almost all rules gone.

Talk about Stockholm Syndrome!

Telfer86 25th Oct 2021 09:20

Interesting article in todays age/smh , "Can you come home , what happens if you get COVID overseas"

You won't have travel insurance if you travel to any country on DFAT "do not travel" list & that is all countries except NZ

How interesting is it then to see the PM at the QF Love In last week , pumping up the volume, telling everyone how wonderful if all is
& of course lots of "look at me" time with QF people. When his Governments official advice is "do not travel"

If you contract Covid in the USA & need hospitalisation you won't receive treatment unless you hand over a very large amount of cash upfront circa $50K - or no treatment for you

Contact Aust Embassy all you like , they will not assist you financially & will point out that you ignored Fed Govt travel advice & the fact that the PM attended
a QF OS travel promotion is meaningless

You may well find yourself in over your head if you wish to go yodelling in the Swiss Alps over summertime or duck over to Cali to get that selfie with MIckie & Minnie

The Airline staff will all get VIP medical/swift evacuations - not available to Joe Average

You go down hard with Covid OS , you are on your own Feds won't touch you, QF will sell you a biz class fare to RIo but they sure aren't going to put their hand in their pocket to get you out of there if you get Covid

Green.Dot 25th Oct 2021 11:57

Telfer, despite all the doom and gloom you paint one thing is for sure- people are ready to live (and travel) again. Maybe it has something to do with the science/proof we see of people being double vaccinated. Not even you will be able to scare the travellers away with your endless negative rambles!

Transition Layer 25th Oct 2021 12:14

Telfer, hopefully this puts you at ease. God knows you need some cheering up!

https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...ravel-warnings

Gnadenburg 25th Oct 2021 22:00

Yep onward and upward. It needs to become fashionable to push aside those still thriving in the wallows of COVID regressiveness and disproportionate caution. There were folks on this thread just months ago, predicting a dire collapse of the NSW medical system and telling us how they were not sending "their" nurses and health workers into the pandemic inferno. Time's up- it's actually now time to build the economy and opportunities for younger generations.

Dannyboy39 26th Oct 2021 06:13

So Dan Andrews last week: unvaccinated tennis players wouldn’t get a visa for Australia.

Today: they can come in unvaccinated but with hard quarantine.

Once again, sports people and celebrities get their own way.

logansi 26th Oct 2021 07:37


Originally Posted by Dannyboy39 (Post 11132340)
So Dan Andrews last week: unvaccinated tennis players wouldn’t get a visa for Australia.

Today: they can come in unvaccinated but with hard quarantine.

Once again, sports people and celebrities get their own way.

No Tennis Australia is saying they can come but the Federal governments saying they won't get a Visa.

601 26th Oct 2021 07:45


No Tennis Australia is saying they can come but the Federal governments saying they won't get a Visa.
Isn't that how ride share entrenched its model in Oz.

Ladloy 26th Oct 2021 08:06


Originally Posted by Gnadenburg (Post 11132244)
Yep onward and upward. It needs to become fashionable to push aside those still thriving in the wallows of COVID regressiveness and disproportionate caution. There were folks on this thread just months ago, predicting a dire collapse of the NSW medical system and telling us how they were not sending "their" nurses and health workers into the pandemic inferno. Time's up- it's actually now time to build the economy and opportunities for younger generations.

not with this government

GoldCoastTobacconist 26th Oct 2021 11:31

SA open Nov 23.

When will NT and TAS open?

As one open WA closes. West Australians seeing Maui and New York in their feed while they can go to Margaret River and Broome (again).

MMs time is coming.

A320 Flyer 26th Oct 2021 12:06


Originally Posted by 43Inches (Post 11130932)
Not quite sure where this free money is coming from, oh that's right the gov is giving back WA citizens 40 cents in every dollar they pay in taxes.... The rest goes to subsidizing QLD, SA and the NT. Why QLD needs subsidising when they have wondrous COAL who knows... Oh that's right no one needs that stuff anymore so we sell it at close to cost to make it seem like there's an industry and take money from WAs profitable iron ore and gold production to prop up our economy.

”they pay in taxes”…… you mean GST? WA residents don’t pay for all that iron ore do they????

galdian 26th Oct 2021 12:55

To a degree I think you just have to ignore WA, things will change only when interested parties indicate their concerns/problems to MM and he finally decides to "pivot", draw your own timeline.

Some of that maybe - second hand - but a friend from east coast wanted some travel, initially booked Porn* early April to Bali, now early Feb and required covid insurance for $80.00 available on arrival, imagine have to be supported/underwritten by the Indonesian government.
As with all insurance "read the fine print" but believe that's what's available.

Along with the WA mining companies staff shortages there'd be more than a few locals wondering why east coast can fly to Bali - but WA can't.

Icarus2001 26th Oct 2021 13:11


Isn't that how ride share entrenched its model in Oz.
Good point. That subject deserves a thread of its own. Move in to a country, blatantly break the law and then demand the law is changed. They bloody got away with it.

ChrisJ800 26th Oct 2021 19:38


Originally Posted by GoldCoastTobacconist (Post 11132503)
SA open Nov 23.

When will NT and TAS open?

As one open WA closes. West Australians seeing Maui and New York in their feed while they can go to Margaret River and Broome (again).

MMs time is coming.

Tas opens Dec 15th

chookcooker 26th Oct 2021 21:04

So pretty much the whole country excepts NT and WA by 20/12, with NT joining approx end of Jan. WA ? Who knows, who cares.

WingNut60 26th Oct 2021 21:42


Originally Posted by A320 Flyer (Post 11132519)
”they pay in taxes”…… you mean GST? WA residents don’t pay for all that iron ore do they????

Why would they pay for it? They own it.

ScepticalOptomist 26th Oct 2021 21:46


Originally Posted by WingNut60 (Post 11132756)
Why would they pay for it? They own it.

Hahaha, that made me snort my coffee!

I love your ignorant bliss WingNut!!

WingNut60 26th Oct 2021 21:58


Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist (Post 11132758)
Hahaha, that made me snort my coffee!

I love your ignorant bliss WingNut!!

OK. Actually owned by the Crown, but the only body empowered to collect royalties on behalf of "the community" is the Western Australian government.
And there is no requirement to share that with any other state.

No GST involved.

43Inches 26th Oct 2021 22:00

The ride share economy is a classic example of the government just waiting for something to break the strangle hold of a powerful institution, taxi companies. They had created a monster they couldn't touch by law by artificially restricting cab numbers and making licence plates worth hundreds of thousands of dollars when the issue fee is a few hundred. Add to that a taxi directorate that was a law unto itself. The situation could have been fixed years ago with unlimited licences available and proper rules and conditions for drivers which would have self stabilised the industry. Instead the money involved led to a corrupt system where drivers made no more than basic wage and plate owners played ponzi scheme with cars. Now you have an unlimited amount of cars with unlimited drivers with no minimum conditions which will just end up eventually in a mess once the novelty runs out.

43Inches 26th Oct 2021 22:03


And there is no requirement to share that with any other state.
Why should a state have to share it's royalties?

Most states have mineral resources they can take advantage of, why is NT, SA and QLD which are mineral rich unable to take advantage of these deposits like WA? Are they all just stupid except for WA?

I get pissed off my tax goes to subsidise Joyces and Palmers crap in QLD.


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