"... a growing body of evidence suggests that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines also reduce asymptomatic infection and transmission. Substantial reductions in SARS-CoV-2 infections (both symptomatic and asymptomatic) will reduce overall levels of disease, and therefore, viral transmission in the United States. However, investigations are ongoing to assess further the impact of COVID-19 vaccination on transmission." CDC Science Brief: COVID-19 Vaccines and Vaccination

​​​​​​"... In April, Public Health England reported results of a large study of COVID-19 transmission involving more than 365,000 households with a mix of vaccinated and unvaccinated members. It found immunisation with either the Pfizer or AstraZeneca vaccine reduced the chance of onward virus transmission by 40–60%." Royal Australian College of General Practitioners, Mounting evidence suggests COVID vaccines do reduce transmission

Just because people who have been vaccinated are returning positive test results (breakthrough infections) does not mean that vaccination is doing zero to stop transmission. The incidence of breakthrough infections tells you nothing about onward transmission.

Interesting read. Also, all the trick drivers in protest today in sydney this afternoon of loosing pay and work. Now some workers outside aviation and tourism are affected they can have a taste of what we have been experiencing. Hopefully more get vaccinated out of it.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp....17-p58ail.html

MickG0105: Bravo, but your ever patient and courteous explanations do rather remind me of Brad Raffensperger trying to explain vote integrity to Donald Trump.

105 cases tomorrow according to Mr TikTok.

Those poor truck drivers losing 2 weeks worth of work… my heart bleeds.

My heart does not!

If my short term memory serves me correctly,wasnt it truck drivers that caused a lot of this particularly a few who had a work permit but decided they didnt like the rules.
Also,heard some yelling & shouting relating to human rights coming from a group in 1 of the 3 locked down LGA's in sydney.
Fair chance the rules dont suit them either & as you say it will give them a taste of what many aviation workers are still going through.

16 in vic today,all linked to current outbreak.
Just on the nsw issue,i read Gladys said she didnt enforce a stricter lockdown sooner because she didnt have health advice to do it,thats a worry!

Why? At least that is consistent with what she has been saying all along.

Canadian friend of mine just landed in Canada from Asia where he was fully vaccinated then tested at airport on arrival and walking the streets a few hours later , no quarantine for returning nationals who are vaccinated. He was not vaccinated in Canada . Seeing his elderly mother and some business the back to Asia . No fuss no mass hysteria no threats just common sense from a country who are living with it and getting on with life . Australia will get there in time .

Spot on brother. Any chance of Tattslotto numbers.

Not me. Check this funny blokes social channels at about 10pm and you can miss the circus the following day at 11am.

It will be interesting to see what happens during Eid al Adha in Sydney, due to start tomorrow but depending on the sighting of the moon. Some people take God’s laws more seriously than e.g. Gladys’s laws.

(Cue Mick to manage the message on Islamic rules and traditions during Eid al Adha and their relationship with man-made laws…)

Looks like we’re in this mess for longer

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-...n=abc_news_web

Gladys having Armenian heritage, why not it's a claytons lockdown anyway start cooking those kababs, inshallah.

Probably what’s she’s after…. Free publicity!!

Nothing to see here…. Move on

Flying in from Asia to, let's say, Vancouver.
1761 deaths so far.

Yep, any Australian city could have that too.
If it was really that important that someone should have the right to enter without quarantine.

And you failed to mention that this arrangement has only been in place since 05 July.

Not interested in number of cases. Number of hospital admissions and deaths are the important numbers. Both of which are down substantially in relation to the number of cases. And the uk is around 53% fully vaccinated. So the number admitted to hospital and the number of deaths will fall even further for a given number of cases once that % gets to the required number of about 70%.

we won’t be there until at least December, more like February next year.

Netherlands is only about 43% fully vaccinated.

Yes, a real worry. When the talking head that you've appointed to give you the advice that you appointed her to give fails to give you that advice.

the areas under most restrictions in western Sydney contains the same area that had the highest recruitment for ISIS, was where the people that protested in Sydney holding up behead all infidels signs, oh that was their 5 year old children holding up those signs, and who have already held a protest yesterday against the latest measures.

Now most people living there are not like that, but there are at least several hundred who are. At least.

Yet another Australian media scare mongering campaign almost purely focussing on case numbers. I don’t think now is the time to let COVID run its course in Aus with our currently pitiful vaccination stats but I certainly think the UK is justified in its actions.

Toronto is where he is . Many older people die and some have coronavirus it’s sad but a fact of life . Vaccinations and some basic precautions will improve chances .

She's a Christian, Armenian Apostolic, but sure, a bit of thread drift into religion will doubtless lift the tone.

Indeed. And the one true religion - Pastafarianism - provides the explanation for and solution to Covid-19. Blessed be the Quob!

Yep, first state to adopt christianity in year 301AD. They also have traditions to celebrate throughout the year.
Back to the topic, as the above news item mentioned, the English are opening up at 53% vaxed. Australia are at 13%. So 40% to go.
Thats if our fantastic health advisers are in line with the British experts.

Was a serious question and non the wiser.

not sure the exact nature of your question however if you work in one of the infected, sorry affected areas in western Sydney currently under house arrest then you can still enter the danger zone and work and return home as usual.

which yes, sounds completely ridiculous but there you are. If that doesn’t answer your question, please be more specific.

I see that various politicians are hyperventilating about deporting Katie Hopkins after her (taking the p**s) comments from Hotel quarantine…. That exactly what she wants…free publicity!

Move on…nothing to see here. Ignore.

More importantly I was interested to see that apparently the NSW Govt has made an exception to caps on entry from overseas for “Big Brother” Contestants to Australia… good to see the famous Australian double standards are still diligently being applied! Oh dear.

I remember an old rationalisation that was sort of folklore in Thailand that allowed devout Buddhists to eat fish.
The rationalisation was, that they would have drowned anyway.

The assertion that it's "only older people and they would have died anyway" reminds me of that rationisation.
It flies in the face of common morality but, hey, if it suits your argument.........................

One thing is certain, that without massively increased vaccination rates, either in Toronto or Sydney, infection rates, hospitalisations and additional deaths will not be improved by loosening travel restrictions.

And for the record, while case rates in Ontario are reasonably stable at the moment, of the additional 176 cases on Friday, just 21 were over the age of 60.
33 were school-aged. Of which, 15 were aged between 4 and 8 years old.

I did expect the answer to be ridiculous - thanks for confirmation.

Not me, this was one Scott Morrison in March last year. Nothing has changed except he was being pessimistic. About 1 in 10 might get something a bit more severe than the flu and about 1 in 500 might end up in hospital. The vast majority will not even get it. Don't take my word for it, just watch the stats that the ABC is giving us. Over 1000 "cases" in NSW so far, the majority of which had to have the test just to find out they are in fact "a case". After a positive test they are sent home to isolate. Oh, and we have had a death, a lady in her '90s. There is an enormous difference between a "case" and someone sick with covid.

For this we are expected to take a vaccine that is not a vaccine but a new MRA, never tried before experiment that will only protect us from others that have had the same "vaccine".

Let's open up all the borders and end the lockdowns now please.

none of this is accurate.

I don’t know why people keep quoting such low numbers for the UK..they have huge numbers of vaccinated

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55274833



still on a massive cases spike (even though cases don’t, and never have, actually meant anything)

Potentially highly sensationalist garbage, however Seven News this evening at 830pm a story on FedEx Flight 77

I wonder what her advice will be after she sees the footage of bondi today,hundreds walking around,very few masks,surfboards being carried around,got to get out in the sun i guess,why would you bother staying home??
Admittedly melb weather was cool today but when i walked to my local park there were people out however i would say mask wearing was at least 98%,i just wonder why its so hard in nsw for people to get the message.

Non of any of this is accurate. The truth is, nobody knows what the truth is. I certainly don't, I post opinion! Feel free to disagree.

As of right now 1 in 17 cases are in hospital and that's early figures as there's a lag in hospitalitions. 18 in ICU, 7 on ventilators (flip a coin on survival if you get to the ventilator). As for saying people are taking the test without expecting a positive result, I'm sure by week two it's not just a 'case'. The wprst part of the disease is in the second or third week, while most getting tested are early into their dirst week.

Long term, persistent symptoms known as Long covid are found in 1 in 5 cases. Serious heart issues and lung issues are to be expected by long covid. Give me the jab and I'll be happy to end lockdowns and open borders.

According to the Kairouz Probability Theorem we have a total of 109 cases tomorrow

In that case, Gladys, don't bother with tomorrow's presser, just use today's and dubb 105 to 109.

With 109 cases consistently being around the 100 for a week now Melbourne on a knifes edge. This will only take 60 days to get under control and be allowed to travel again. Two biggest city’s out now Aiviation back to a stand still almost.