Annastacia just got herself the Pfizer jab, despite being over 50, because "I have to go to the olympics".
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Originally Posted by Fonz121
(Post 11058115)
Annastacia just got herself the Pfizer jab, despite being over 50, because "I have to go to the olympics".
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Originally Posted by 601
(Post 11057761)
The Feds are responsible for quarantine, no argument.
But the States are responsible for health directions within States. The Feds have no say over the States CMOs. The States and NT did freely sign up to manage the quarantine facilities. Why do the Vic, SA and WA keep COVID positive people in medi-hotels instead of a COVID ward in a hospital as I believe happens in Qld? If positives detected in HQ are not then heled in HQ, then the HQ cannot leak. Politics/Party aside, every government has stuff ups but this Fed Govt (i.e. the PM) spouts any BS to get out from under, laced with weasel words such as cohort, going forward, seeking to do something, in the such and such space, then does nothing, then when it turns to crap, blames someone else. If I remember correctly, the evacuees from Wuhan initially, were taken to Xmas Island and quarantined - how many of them spread Covid into the community. I heard MANY stories at the time of people arriving at international terminals throughout the country no checks whatsoever were undertaken - airports are a Commonwealth responsibility. HQ was only ever intended as a stop-gap. Sure, several states have had some cock ups, Victoria isn't alone, WA had something similar but were lucky that it didn't lead to a second wave. All in all though, overall, even with lock-downs, we're in a far better place than most other countries (except perhaps NZ). |
Originally Posted by Fonz121
(Post 11058115)
Annastacia just got herself the Pfizer jab, despite being over 50, because "I have to go to the olympics".
But hey dont let the facts get in the way of your rant |
Originally Posted by rattman
(Post 11058151)
Everyone going to olympics is getting pfizer unless they have already had the the first AZ shot. Its 12 weeks between the AZ shots and only 6 between pfizer
But hey dont let the facts get in the way of your rant |
Originally Posted by rattman
(Post 11058151)
Everyone going to olympics is getting pfizer unless they have already had the the first AZ shot. Its 12 weeks between the AZ shots and only 6 between pfizer
But hey dont let the facts get in the way of your rant |
Originally Posted by rattman
(Post 11058151)
Everyone going to olympics is getting pfizer unless they have already had the the first AZ shot. Its 12 weeks between the AZ shots and only 6 between pfizer
But hey dont let the facts get in the way of your rant Why's she even going to the Olympics? Potential Brisbane bid announcement? Hardly a reason to leave the country in this supposed state of emergency she has us in. Hell, crew can't even get back from Melbourne right now without being forced into two weeks quarantine thanks to her. |
Originally Posted by Fonz121
(Post 11058157)
Oh please... she quite clearly hasn't wanted to get the AZ jab from the get go. First she used the excuse that she's waiting for the flu jab, and now that's changed to "...in the event..." that she goes to the Olympics. If she didn't have that little excuse I'm sure she would have held off until the Pfizer supply was adequate enough for the over 50's in Oct.
Why's she even going to the Olympics? Potential Brisbane bid announcement? Hardly a reason to leave the country in this supposed state of emergency she has us in. Hell, crew can't even get back from Melbourne right now without being forced into two weeks quarantine thanks to her. |
Originally Posted by 1A_Please
(Post 11058166)
Her excuses are pathetic. She could have had the A-Z vaccine 10 weeks ago and still have had the flu vax in the meantime. Now she brings up a dog bite and that she may have to go to Olympics which sounds like rubbish. The PM is not going and neither should she.
Be reasonable...:yuk: Ditto re the absolute BS reasons why she and the chihuahua couldn't have started their vaccinations earlier. Absolute wank. |
Originally Posted by 1A_Please
(Post 11058166)
Her excuses are pathetic. She could have had the A-Z vaccine 10 weeks ago and still have had the flu vax in the meantime. Now she brings up a dog bite and that she may have to go to Olympics which sounds like rubbish. The PM is not going and neither should she.
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Seems like this super super contagious Indian variant, yes I will still call it the Indian variant of the WuHu lab flu is not really that contagious. And is mostly confined to the north west of Melbourne despite some pseudo demographer telling us all that things spread more in Melbourne than Sydney due to its typography despite providing no evidence at all. Apparently Sydney Siders all stay within shouting distance of their homes or something because we aren’t able to cross rivers or the harbour. Another expert trying to keep his name out there no doubt as his corporate speaking gigs must have dried up.
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Originally Posted by Foxxster
(Post 11058226)
Seems like this super super contagious Indian variant, yes I will still call it the Indian variant of the WuHu lab flu is not really that contagious. And is mostly confined to the north west of Melbourne despite some pseudo demographer telling us all that things spread more in Melbourne than Sydney due to its typography despite providing no evidence at all. Apparently Sydney Siders all stay within shouting distance of their homes or something because we aren’t able to cross rivers or the harbour. Another expert trying to keep his name out there no doubt as his corporate speaking gigs must have dried up.
https://youtu.be/PBCY6i4ZUd4 |
Originally Posted by Foxxster
(Post 11058226)
Seems like this super super contagious Indian variant, yes I will still call it the Indian variant of the WuHu lab flu is not really that contagious. And is mostly confined to the north west of Melbourne despite some pseudo demographer telling us all that things spread more in Melbourne than Sydney due to its typography despite providing no evidence at all. Apparently Sydney Siders all stay within shouting distance of their homes or something because we aren’t able to cross rivers or the harbour. Another expert trying to keep his name out there no doubt as his corporate speaking gigs must have dried up.
https://youtu.be/PBCY6i4ZUd4 |
Originally Posted by 1A_Please
(Post 11058166)
Her excuses are pathetic. She could have had the A-Z vaccine 10 weeks ago and still have had the flu vax in the meantime. Now she brings up a dog bite and that she may have to go to Olympics which sounds like rubbish. The PM is not going and neither should she.
She is wasting more money that she doesnt have & when she comes back(hopefully she wont) she will be using up a place in a quarantine facility(i presume she will abide by her own rules for returning overseas residents). Her example of leadership is disgusting. |
Originally Posted by Fonz121
(Post 11058157)
Oh please... she quite clearly hasn't wanted to get the AZ jab from the get go. First she used the excuse that she's waiting for the flu jab, and now that's changed to "...in the event..." that she goes to the Olympics. If she didn't have that little excuse I'm sure she would have held off until the Pfizer supply was adequate enough for the over 50's in Oct.
Why's she even going to the Olympics? Potential Brisbane bid announcement? Hardly a reason to leave the country in this supposed state of emergency she has us in. Hell, crew can't even get back from Melbourne right now without being forced into two weeks quarantine thanks to her. |
Originally Posted by Tucknroll
(Post 11058363)
Before having a go at experts, you may want to check your own typography.
topography.. and he is no expert. Experts provide evidence to support what they think. So it is not just what they think. He provides nothing. No analysis of any of the outbreaks in Melbourne to back his thinking. as do average commute times and lengths for Melbourne and Sydney which are almost identical. So all those rivers and harbours etc don’t seem to affect our ability to commute equally long distances as people in Melbourne. |
Originally Posted by Foxxster
(Post 11058545)
as do average commute times and lengths for Melbourne and Sydney which are almost identical. So all those rivers and harbours etc don’t seem to affect our ability to commute equally long distances as people in Melbourne. |
Originally Posted by 1A_Please
(Post 11058166)
Her excuses are pathetic. She could have had the A-Z vaccine 10 weeks ago and still have had the flu vax in the meantime. Now she brings up a dog bite and that she may have to go to Olympics which sounds like rubbish. The PM is not going and neither should she.
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Originally Posted by compressor stall
(Post 11058546)
Commute time does not equal commute distance.
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Originally Posted by Foxxster
(Post 11058547)
isn’t it odd that these Labor premiers are so easily able to lie. It’s almost default behaviour. Andrews lies in that enquiry about hotel quarantine even when there is evidence of emails being sent to him he apparently never got them. Now the chook lies about the vaccine showing wonderful leadership. I hope nobody is wondering why many over 50 are reluctant to get vaccinated with AstraZeneca. They have every right to be given the chooks obvious reluctance.
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Originally Posted by AerialPerspective
(Post 11058577)
I’m not defending what she did but I think the reason was more about the fact with Pfizer one is fully vaccinated after 21 days whereas with AZ it’s 12 weeks. You completely failed to mention that little fact.
please tell us when the nsw premier received her first AstraZeneca vaccine. In fact she received her SECOND one last week. you forgot to mention that little fact. |
Originally Posted by Foxxster
(Post 11058545)
very good.
topography.. and he is no expert. Experts provide evidence to support what they think. |
Could’ve sworn that I’ve seen bridges in Sydney.:confused:
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Originally Posted by AerialPerspective
(Post 11058577)
I’m not defending what she did but I think the reason was more about the fact with Pfizer one is fully vaccinated after 21 days whereas with AZ it’s 12 weeks. You completely failed to mention that little fact.
It was never the originally announced inter-shot interval. If she could use her position to wrangle a Pfizer shot while not entitled to it then she could just as easily have wrangled a 2nd A-Z shot at a much reduced interval so she could attend the "barren Olympics"
Originally Posted by www.who.int
............Therefore an interval of 21–28 days (3–4 weeks) between doses is recommended by WHO. Depending on the vaccine, the interval may be extended for up to 42 days – or even up to 12 weeks for some vaccines – on the basis of current evidence.
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I don't think the major issue is that she got the Pfizer shot.
The major issue is she took the Pfizer shot that should have gone to someone in the higher risk category. For that she should lose her job. |
Originally Posted by ozbiggles
(Post 11059088)
I don't think the major issue is that she got the Pfizer shot.
The major issue is she took the Pfizer shot that should have gone to someone in the higher risk category. For that she should lose her job. |
Originally Posted by WingNut60
(Post 11059099)
The major issue is she took the Pfizer shot that should have gone to someone in the higher risk category AND SET AN ABSOLUTELY DEPLORABLE EXAMPLE.
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I’m not defending what she did but I think the reason was more about the fact with Pfizer one is fully vaccinated after 21 days whereas with AZ it’s 12 weeks. You completely failed to mention that little fact. |
Originally Posted by WingNut60
(Post 11059099)
The major issue is she took the Pfizer shot that should have gone to someone in the higher risk category AND SET AN ABSOLUTELY DEPLORABLE EXAMPLE.
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Originally Posted by Ladloy
(Post 11059122)
so did scomo..
he set an example,,led from the front in being vaccinated at the first opportunity. He was vaccinated on Sunday 21 February. Australia has doubled its coronavirus vaccine stocks after hundreds of thousands of doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine were flown into Sydney on Sunday. The federal government says it hopes the new vaccine will be going into people's arms from Monday, March 8. What happened on Sunday?Three hundred thousand doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca jab arrived from overseas on a plane which landed at Sydney airport.https://www.pm.gov.au/media/300000-a...rive-australia |
News just in, a woman has tested positive after arriving in QLD from VIC after spending a few days in country NSW.
If NSW had closed their border like every other state this wouldn't have happened. Now potentially looking at more border closures across the country. |
So you are blaming NSW for a Victorian entering QLD via NSW. You are right, lets not blame the individuals who knowing broke the law to do this. Let all the states have armed guards on all the border points at unlimited cost to police this. I'm not sure what was driving your point other than ignorance. Airports are easy, thousands of ground based entry points are not.
And No. I'm not a blues supporter. |
Originally Posted by ozbiggles
(Post 11059143)
So you are blaming NSW for a Victorian entering QLD via NSW. You are right, lets not blame the individuals who knowing broke the law to do this. Let all the states have armed guards on all the border points at unlimited cost to police this. I'm not sure what was driving your point other than ignorance. Airports are easy, thousands of ground based entry points are not.
And No. I'm not a blues supporter. VIC has two land borders, SA had implemented a hard border with police check points at its border crossings, NSW has not and this is the consequence of trusting people to stay home. I hope throw the book at them. |
I agree throw the book at them. It is a lot easier to monitor the border between SA and VIC compared to VIC and NSW. There are 4 major crossing points between SA and VIC, multiply that by 25 for VIC and NSW. It is about the same multiplication factor for back roads.
Hopefully they will be made to pay, but it won't be enough. |
Originally Posted by jrfsp
(Post 11059139)
News just in, a woman has tested positive after arriving in QLD from VIC after spending a few days in country NSW.
If NSW had closed their border like every other state this wouldn't have happened. Now potentially looking at more border closures across the country. and people don’t want jail as a possible penalty for breaking quarantine or lockdown. I would be very happy for her to receive at least five years. Given the last Melbourne lockdown cost around a billion dollars. Given the possibility of her infecting others who could have ended up dead or with ongoing health issues from long covid. but we all know at most they will receive a fine, perhaps a few thousand dollars at the very most. Pathetic |
Originally Posted by ozbiggles
(Post 11059146)
I agree throw the book at them. It is a lot easier to monitor the border between SA and VIC compared to VIC and NSW. There are 4 major crossing points between SA and VIC, multiply that by 25 for VIC and NSW. It is about the same multiplication factor for back roads.
Hopefully they will be made to pay, but it won't be enough. I hope they jail them, but chance would be a fine thing. |
Originally Posted by jrfsp
(Post 11059148)
Yes the NSW border is about 4 times the length which a huge number of crossing and police resourcing would be huge,
Just use the military with loaded firearms |
Originally Posted by Foxxster
(Post 11059129)
scomo only took it (Pfizer) because that was all that was available at the time. He also took it before the blood clotting issue with the AstraZeneca vaccine became apparent.
he set an example,,led from the front in being vaccinated at the first opportunity. He was vaccinated on Sunday 21 February. Australia has doubled its coronavirus vaccine stocks after hundreds of thousands of doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine were flown into Sydney on Sunday. The federal government says it hopes the new vaccine will be going into people's arms from Monday, March 8. What happened on Sunday?Three hundred thousand doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca jab arrived from overseas on a plane which landed at Sydney airport.https://www.pm.gov.au/media/300000-a...rive-australia https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...-variant-study |
I hate Morrison with a passion (his politics anyway), but I think he did the right thing as far as vaccines go. He was in a world where Pfizer and AZ were roughly equals and all we had on hand was Pfizer. He took the Pfizer vaccine to set an example about getting the vaccine in general.
Annastacia on the other hand..... Very disappointing leadership. |
Originally Posted by ozbiggles
(Post 11059143)
So you are blaming NSW for a Victorian entering QLD via NSW. You are right, lets not blame the individuals who knowing broke the law to do this. Let all the states have armed guards on all the border points at unlimited cost to police this. I'm not sure what was driving your point other than ignorance. Airports are easy, thousands of ground based entry points are not.
And No. I'm not a blues supporter. No denying that governments have stuffed up but how selfish & self centred are these offenders that continually believe they are outside rules put in place. Many will now use the human rights excuse & any other movement they can latch onto to tell us they dont have to comply. As you say,how can every border be 100% covered by armed guards! Absolutely blame the government for their stuff ups but why go soft on these morons who believe they are outside any rule or restriction put in place. I would guess shes an anti vaxxer too. |
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