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Fonz121 7th Jun 2021 01:29

Annastacia just got herself the Pfizer jab, despite being over 50, because "I have to go to the olympics".

C441 7th Jun 2021 02:10


Originally Posted by Fonz121 (Post 11058115)
Annastacia just got herself the Pfizer jab, despite being over 50, because "I have to go to the olympics".

And the Chief Health Officer? I wonder too where the Premier will do her post-Olympics Quarantine ?

AerialPerspective 7th Jun 2021 02:49


Originally Posted by 601 (Post 11057761)
The Feds are responsible for quarantine, no argument.
But the States are responsible for health directions within States. The Feds have no say over the States CMOs.
The States and NT did freely sign up to manage the quarantine facilities.
Why do the Vic, SA and WA keep COVID positive people in medi-hotels instead of a COVID ward in a hospital as I believe happens in Qld?
If positives detected in HQ are not then heled in HQ, then the HQ cannot leak.

Good point but I suspect it was more a case of the Commonwealth saying "We're not doing so you'll have to" - it's no different in terms of dodging their responsibility as in "I don't hold a hose" and "We didn't do anything because the States never asked us for help" (he says, as half the bloody country is on fire).

Politics/Party aside, every government has stuff ups but this Fed Govt (i.e. the PM) spouts any BS to get out from under, laced with weasel words such as cohort, going forward, seeking to do something, in the such and such space, then does nothing, then when it turns to crap, blames someone else.

If I remember correctly, the evacuees from Wuhan initially, were taken to Xmas Island and quarantined - how many of them spread Covid into the community. I heard MANY stories at the time of people arriving at international terminals throughout the country no checks whatsoever were undertaken - airports are a Commonwealth responsibility. HQ was only ever intended as a stop-gap. Sure, several states have had some cock ups, Victoria isn't alone, WA had something similar but were lucky that it didn't lead to a second wave.

All in all though, overall, even with lock-downs, we're in a far better place than most other countries (except perhaps NZ).

rattman 7th Jun 2021 05:26


Originally Posted by Fonz121 (Post 11058115)
Annastacia just got herself the Pfizer jab, despite being over 50, because "I have to go to the olympics".

Everyone going to olympics is getting pfizer unless they have already had the the first AZ shot. Its 12 weeks between the AZ shots and only 6 between pfizer

But hey dont let the facts get in the way of your rant

1A_Please 7th Jun 2021 05:38


Originally Posted by rattman (Post 11058151)
Everyone going to olympics is getting pfizer unless they have already had the the first AZ shot. Its 12 weeks between the AZ shots and only 6 between pfizer

But hey dont let the facts get in the way of your rant

She could have had the first A-Z shot weeks ago. Her arguments why she didn't do not hold water. Her example to the people of Qld is terrible.

turbantime 7th Jun 2021 06:23


Originally Posted by rattman (Post 11058151)
Everyone going to olympics is getting pfizer unless they have already had the the first AZ shot. Its 12 weeks between the AZ shots and only 6 between pfizer

But hey dont let the facts get in the way of your rant

Pfizer is 3 weeks between doses.

Fonz121 7th Jun 2021 06:25


Originally Posted by rattman (Post 11058151)
Everyone going to olympics is getting pfizer unless they have already had the the first AZ shot. Its 12 weeks between the AZ shots and only 6 between pfizer

But hey dont let the facts get in the way of your rant

Oh please... she quite clearly hasn't wanted to get the AZ jab from the get go. First she used the excuse that she's waiting for the flu jab, and now that's changed to "...in the event..." that she goes to the Olympics. If she didn't have that little excuse I'm sure she would have held off until the Pfizer supply was adequate enough for the over 50's in Oct.

Why's she even going to the Olympics? Potential Brisbane bid announcement? Hardly a reason to leave the country in this supposed state of emergency she has us in. Hell, crew can't even get back from Melbourne right now without being forced into two weeks quarantine thanks to her.

1A_Please 7th Jun 2021 07:07


Originally Posted by Fonz121 (Post 11058157)
Oh please... she quite clearly hasn't wanted to get the AZ jab from the get go. First she used the excuse that she's waiting for the flu jab, and now that's changed to "...in the event..." that she goes to the Olympics. If she didn't have that little excuse I'm sure she would have held off until the Pfizer supply was adequate enough for the over 50's in Oct.

Why's she even going to the Olympics? Potential Brisbane bid announcement? Hardly a reason to leave the country in this supposed state of emergency she has us in. Hell, crew can't even get back from Melbourne right now without being forced into two weeks quarantine thanks to her.

Her excuses are pathetic. She could have had the A-Z vaccine 10 weeks ago and still have had the flu vax in the meantime. Now she brings up a dog bite and that she may have to go to Olympics which sounds like rubbish. The PM is not going and neither should she.

LapSap 7th Jun 2021 07:21


Originally Posted by 1A_Please (Post 11058166)
Her excuses are pathetic. She could have had the A-Z vaccine 10 weeks ago and still have had the flu vax in the meantime. Now she brings up a dog bite and that she may have to go to Olympics which sounds like rubbish. The PM is not going and neither should she.

Hey, common. How else is she supposed to announce the squandering of a few Billion on something we don't want, while the Health Dept is reportedly 600 Million in the red and going backwards, unless she goes on the junket?
Be reasonable...:yuk:

Ditto re the absolute BS reasons why she and the chihuahua couldn't have started their vaccinations earlier. Absolute wank.

rattman 7th Jun 2021 07:30


Originally Posted by 1A_Please (Post 11058166)
Her excuses are pathetic. She could have had the A-Z vaccine 10 weeks ago and still have had the flu vax in the meantime. Now she brings up a dog bite and that she may have to go to Olympics which sounds like rubbish. The PM is not going and neither should she.

Maybe you should be looking at your govt how they have managed to **** up their quarantine hotels 3 times. Funny that you are having a go at another government. but your pathetic excuse of a government keeps ******* up and expects everyone else to bail them out

Foxxster 7th Jun 2021 09:08

Seems like this super super contagious Indian variant, yes I will still call it the Indian variant of the WuHu lab flu is not really that contagious. And is mostly confined to the north west of Melbourne despite some pseudo demographer telling us all that things spread more in Melbourne than Sydney due to its typography despite providing no evidence at all. Apparently Sydney Siders all stay within shouting distance of their homes or something because we aren’t able to cross rivers or the harbour. Another expert trying to keep his name out there no doubt as his corporate speaking gigs must have dried up.


Ladloy 7th Jun 2021 10:55


Originally Posted by Foxxster (Post 11058226)
Seems like this super super contagious Indian variant, yes I will still call it the Indian variant of the WuHu lab flu is not really that contagious. And is mostly confined to the north west of Melbourne despite some pseudo demographer telling us all that things spread more in Melbourne than Sydney due to its typography despite providing no evidence at all. Apparently Sydney Siders all stay within shouting distance of their homes or something because we aren’t able to cross rivers or the harbour. Another expert trying to keep his name out there no doubt as his corporate speaking gigs must have dried up.

https://youtu.be/PBCY6i4ZUd4

lol sky news

Tucknroll 7th Jun 2021 13:03


Originally Posted by Foxxster (Post 11058226)
Seems like this super super contagious Indian variant, yes I will still call it the Indian variant of the WuHu lab flu is not really that contagious. And is mostly confined to the north west of Melbourne despite some pseudo demographer telling us all that things spread more in Melbourne than Sydney due to its typography despite providing no evidence at all. Apparently Sydney Siders all stay within shouting distance of their homes or something because we aren’t able to cross rivers or the harbour. Another expert trying to keep his name out there no doubt as his corporate speaking gigs must have dried up.

https://youtu.be/PBCY6i4ZUd4

Before having a go at experts, you may want to check your own typography.

blubak 7th Jun 2021 21:46


Originally Posted by 1A_Please (Post 11058166)
Her excuses are pathetic. She could have had the A-Z vaccine 10 weeks ago and still have had the flu vax in the meantime. Now she brings up a dog bite and that she may have to go to Olympics which sounds like rubbish. The PM is not going and neither should she.

100% correct,what influence will she have over there?? NONE.
She is wasting more money that she doesnt have & when she comes back(hopefully she wont) she will be using up a place in a quarantine facility(i presume she will abide by her own rules for returning overseas residents).
Her example of leadership is disgusting.

Dannyboy39 7th Jun 2021 22:23


Originally Posted by Fonz121 (Post 11058157)
Oh please... she quite clearly hasn't wanted to get the AZ jab from the get go. First she used the excuse that she's waiting for the flu jab, and now that's changed to "...in the event..." that she goes to the Olympics. If she didn't have that little excuse I'm sure she would have held off until the Pfizer supply was adequate enough for the over 50's in Oct.

Why's she even going to the Olympics? Potential Brisbane bid announcement? Hardly a reason to leave the country in this supposed state of emergency she has us in. Hell, crew can't even get back from Melbourne right now without being forced into two weeks quarantine thanks to her.

Is she going to quarantine for 2 weeks? Or is she going to use the diplomatic exemptions every country has? Politicians the only group in the world who have no problems with travel right now.

Foxxster 7th Jun 2021 22:30


Originally Posted by Tucknroll (Post 11058363)
Before having a go at experts, you may want to check your own typography.

very good.

topography.. and he is no expert. Experts provide evidence to support what they think. So it is not just what they think. He provides nothing. No analysis of any of the outbreaks in Melbourne to back his thinking.

as do average commute times and lengths for Melbourne and Sydney which are almost identical. So all those rivers and harbours etc don’t seem to affect our ability to commute equally long distances as people in Melbourne.

compressor stall 7th Jun 2021 22:33


Originally Posted by Foxxster (Post 11058545)

as do average commute times and lengths for Melbourne and Sydney which are almost identical. So all those rivers and harbours etc don’t seem to affect our ability to commute equally long distances as people in Melbourne.

Commute time does not equal commute distance.

Foxxster 7th Jun 2021 22:33


Originally Posted by 1A_Please (Post 11058166)
Her excuses are pathetic. She could have had the A-Z vaccine 10 weeks ago and still have had the flu vax in the meantime. Now she brings up a dog bite and that she may have to go to Olympics which sounds like rubbish. The PM is not going and neither should she.

isn’t it odd that these Labor premiers are so easily able to lie. It’s almost default behaviour. Andrews lies in that enquiry about hotel quarantine even when there is evidence of emails being sent to him he apparently never got them. Now the chook lies about the vaccine showing wonderful leadership. I hope nobody is wondering why many over 50 are reluctant to get vaccinated with AstraZeneca. They have every right to be given the chooks obvious reluctance.

Foxxster 7th Jun 2021 22:34


Originally Posted by compressor stall (Post 11058546)
Commute time does not equal commute distance.

commute time AND LENGHT.

AerialPerspective 8th Jun 2021 01:23


Originally Posted by Foxxster (Post 11058547)
isn’t it odd that these Labor premiers are so easily able to lie. It’s almost default behaviour. Andrews lies in that enquiry about hotel quarantine even when there is evidence of emails being sent to him he apparently never got them. Now the chook lies about the vaccine showing wonderful leadership. I hope nobody is wondering why many over 50 are reluctant to get vaccinated with AstraZeneca. They have every right to be given the chooks obvious reluctance.

I’m not defending what she did but I think the reason was more about the fact with Pfizer one is fully vaccinated after 21 days whereas with AZ it’s 12 weeks. You completely failed to mention that little fact.

Foxxster 8th Jun 2021 02:21


Originally Posted by AerialPerspective (Post 11058577)
I’m not defending what she did but I think the reason was more about the fact with Pfizer one is fully vaccinated after 21 days whereas with AZ it’s 12 weeks. You completely failed to mention that little fact.

didn’t need to be mentioned.

please tell us when the nsw premier received her first AstraZeneca vaccine. In fact she received her SECOND one last week.



you forgot to mention that little fact.

Chronic Snoozer 8th Jun 2021 08:59


Originally Posted by Foxxster (Post 11058545)
very good.

topography.. and he is no expert. Experts provide evidence to support what they think.

Expert. Ex = has been. xpert (spurt) = drip under pressure.

Buster Hyman 8th Jun 2021 12:46

Could’ve sworn that I’ve seen bridges in Sydney.:confused:

WingNut60 8th Jun 2021 23:34


Originally Posted by AerialPerspective (Post 11058577)
I’m not defending what she did but I think the reason was more about the fact with Pfizer one is fully vaccinated after 21 days whereas with AZ it’s 12 weeks. You completely failed to mention that little fact.

The 12 weeks represents a strategy to optimise coverage in a large population.
It was never the originally announced inter-shot interval.

If she could use her position to wrangle a Pfizer shot while not entitled to it then she could just as easily have wrangled a 2nd A-Z shot at a much reduced interval so she could attend the "barren Olympics"


Originally Posted by www.who.int
............Therefore an interval of 21–28 days (3–4 weeks) between doses is recommended by WHO. Depending on the vaccine, the interval may be extended for up to 42 days – or even up to 12 weeks for some vaccines – on the basis of current evidence.


ozbiggles 9th Jun 2021 01:44

I don't think the major issue is that she got the Pfizer shot.

The major issue is she took the Pfizer shot that should have gone to someone in the higher risk category.

For that she should lose her job.

WingNut60 9th Jun 2021 02:27


Originally Posted by ozbiggles (Post 11059088)
I don't think the major issue is that she got the Pfizer shot.

The major issue is she took the Pfizer shot that should have gone to someone in the higher risk category.

For that she should lose her job.

The major issue is she took the Pfizer shot that should have gone to someone in the higher risk category AND SET AN ABSOLUTELY DEPLORABLE EXAMPLE.

1A_Please 9th Jun 2021 02:40


Originally Posted by WingNut60 (Post 11059099)
The major issue is she took the Pfizer shot that should have gone to someone in the higher risk category AND SET AN ABSOLUTELY DEPLORABLE EXAMPLE.

Correct and the fact she didn't understand this beforehand shows how out of touch she obviously is.

601 9th Jun 2021 04:33


I’m not defending what she did but I think the reason was more about the fact with Pfizer one is fully vaccinated after 21 days whereas with AZ it’s 12 weeks. You completely failed to mention that little fact.
Apparently all the "Front Line" which including politicians in Qld were offered the jab weeks ago. That included the Lord Mayor of Brisbane who took up the offer.

Ladloy 9th Jun 2021 04:36


Originally Posted by WingNut60 (Post 11059099)
The major issue is she took the Pfizer shot that should have gone to someone in the higher risk category AND SET AN ABSOLUTELY DEPLORABLE EXAMPLE.

so did scomo..

Foxxster 9th Jun 2021 04:54


Originally Posted by Ladloy (Post 11059122)
so did scomo..

scomo only took it (Pfizer) because that was all that was available at the time. He also took it before the blood clotting issue with the AstraZeneca vaccine became apparent.

he set an example,,led from the front in being vaccinated at the first opportunity. He was vaccinated on Sunday 21 February.

Australia has doubled its coronavirus vaccine stocks after hundreds of thousands of doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine were flown into Sydney on Sunday.

The federal government says it hopes the new vaccine will be going into people's arms from Monday, March 8.

What happened on Sunday?

Three hundred thousand doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca jab arrived from overseas on a plane which landed at Sydney airport.

https://www.pm.gov.au/media/300000-a...rive-australia

jrfsp 9th Jun 2021 05:32

News just in, a woman has tested positive after arriving in QLD from VIC after spending a few days in country NSW.

If NSW had closed their border like every other state this wouldn't have happened. Now potentially looking at more border closures across the country.


ozbiggles 9th Jun 2021 05:49

So you are blaming NSW for a Victorian entering QLD via NSW. You are right, lets not blame the individuals who knowing broke the law to do this. Let all the states have armed guards on all the border points at unlimited cost to police this. I'm not sure what was driving your point other than ignorance. Airports are easy, thousands of ground based entry points are not.

And No. I'm not a blues supporter.

jrfsp 9th Jun 2021 05:55


Originally Posted by ozbiggles (Post 11059143)
So you are blaming NSW for a Victorian entering QLD via NSW. You are right, lets not blame the individuals who knowing broke the law to do this. Let all the states have armed guards on all the border points at unlimited cost to police this. I'm not sure what was driving your point other than ignorance. Airports are easy, thousands of ground based entry points are not.

And No. I'm not a blues supporter.

Im not blaming NSW, but unfortunately people cant be trusted to do the right thing.

VIC has two land borders, SA had implemented a hard border with police check points at its border crossings, NSW has not and this is the consequence of trusting people to stay home. I hope throw the book at them.

ozbiggles 9th Jun 2021 06:02

I agree throw the book at them. It is a lot easier to monitor the border between SA and VIC compared to VIC and NSW. There are 4 major crossing points between SA and VIC, multiply that by 25 for VIC and NSW. It is about the same multiplication factor for back roads.

Hopefully they will be made to pay, but it won't be enough.

Foxxster 9th Jun 2021 06:03


Originally Posted by jrfsp (Post 11059139)
News just in, a woman has tested positive after arriving in QLD from VIC after spending a few days in country NSW.

If NSW had closed their border like every other state this wouldn't have happened. Now potentially looking at more border closures across the country.


and people don’t want jail as a possible penalty for breaking quarantine or lockdown.

I would be very happy for her to receive at least five years. Given the last Melbourne lockdown cost around a billion dollars. Given the possibility of her infecting others who could have ended up dead or with ongoing health issues from long covid.

but we all know at most they will receive a fine, perhaps a few thousand dollars at the very most. Pathetic

jrfsp 9th Jun 2021 06:08


Originally Posted by ozbiggles (Post 11059146)
I agree throw the book at them. It is a lot easier to monitor the border between SA and VIC compared to VIC and NSW. There are 4 major crossing points between SA and VIC, multiply that by 25 for VIC and NSW. It is about the same multiplication factor for back roads.

Hopefully they will be made to pay, but it won't be enough.

Yes the NSW border is about 4 times the length which a huge number of crossing and police resourcing would be huge, but im guessing it was done last year? Its just so frustrating that domestic travel constantly seems to be taking two steps forward and one step back - i was ranting.

I hope they jail them, but chance would be a fine thing.

Chris2303 9th Jun 2021 06:34


Originally Posted by jrfsp (Post 11059148)
Yes the NSW border is about 4 times the length which a huge number of crossing and police resourcing would be huge,

Why use Police?

Just use the military with loaded firearms

Ladloy 9th Jun 2021 08:34


Originally Posted by Foxxster (Post 11059129)
scomo only took it (Pfizer) because that was all that was available at the time. He also took it before the blood clotting issue with the AstraZeneca vaccine became apparent.

he set an example,,led from the front in being vaccinated at the first opportunity. He was vaccinated on Sunday 21 February.

Australia has doubled its coronavirus vaccine stocks after hundreds of thousands of doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine were flown into Sydney on Sunday.

The federal government says it hopes the new vaccine will be going into people's arms from Monday, March 8.

What happened on Sunday?

Three hundred thousand doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca jab arrived from overseas on a plane which landed at Sydney airport.

https://www.pm.gov.au/media/300000-a...rive-australia

He jumped the queue and took it from frontline medical and quarantine workers. This was also at the same time AZ's effectiveness was being questioned

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...-variant-study

Fonz121 9th Jun 2021 11:40

I hate Morrison with a passion (his politics anyway), but I think he did the right thing as far as vaccines go. He was in a world where Pfizer and AZ were roughly equals and all we had on hand was Pfizer. He took the Pfizer vaccine to set an example about getting the vaccine in general.

Annastacia on the other hand..... Very disappointing leadership.

blubak 9th Jun 2021 22:35


Originally Posted by ozbiggles (Post 11059143)
So you are blaming NSW for a Victorian entering QLD via NSW. You are right, lets not blame the individuals who knowing broke the law to do this. Let all the states have armed guards on all the border points at unlimited cost to police this. I'm not sure what was driving your point other than ignorance. Airports are easy, thousands of ground based entry points are not.

And No. I'm not a blues supporter.

These people that continually think the law doesnt apply to them need to take a hard look at themselves.
No denying that governments have stuffed up but how selfish & self centred are these offenders that continually believe they are outside rules put in place.
Many will now use the human rights excuse & any other movement they can latch onto to tell us they dont have to comply.
As you say,how can every border be 100% covered by armed guards!
Absolutely blame the government for their stuff ups but why go soft on these morons who believe they are outside any rule or restriction put in place.
I would guess shes an anti vaxxer too.


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