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I think we just got a glimpse of how Qantas IR operates with INOAC’s question. Don’t concede a single point, no matter how facepalm obvious it is, and place a burden on the opposing side to have to explain it. Anything not to negotiate.
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GMFO was asked by what title he would like to be referred.....his answer was 'Captain'
He is not a Captain of any NAA aircraft and that is not his title.
What a sham.
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Where are you following along Buttscratcher?
I would like to have a read or a watch of the proceedings.
PS what is GMFO ( general manager flying operations?) and what is their Command experience? If they are legitimately an ATPL holder then I guess they can get away with Captain? Personally I wouldn’t give two hoots about the title and whether or not it was used if I was in a court setting but I can see an argument for it creating a constant recognition of someone’s training and the responsibilities they carry.
I would like to have a read or a watch of the proceedings.
PS what is GMFO ( general manager flying operations?) and what is their Command experience? If they are legitimately an ATPL holder then I guess they can get away with Captain? Personally I wouldn’t give two hoots about the title and whether or not it was used if I was in a court setting but I can see an argument for it creating a constant recognition of someone’s training and the responsibilities they carry.
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Hey, INOAC how did it feel seeing the no vote swing another 20 percent against your BS views?
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So do we have to call him Captain INOAC?
Anyhoo, since this is a rumour, on a rumour forum, I'll quickly ask if anyone knows about the NJS A220 pending increase?
$250 Y1 CAPT
up to $270 Y9 CAPT.
Apparently won't be signed off until the NAA deal is done.
Anyhoo, since this is a rumour, on a rumour forum, I'll quickly ask if anyone knows about the NJS A220 pending increase?
$250 Y1 CAPT
up to $270 Y9 CAPT.
Apparently won't be signed off until the NAA deal is done.
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Thats about 200k more than Qantas believe they should be paying.
I’m not an AIPA member so maybe ask someone who is, people have posted info from AIPA newsletters here and would have a better idea than me.
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penalties of up to $18,780 and the union $93,900.
Several AIPA members are also AFAP members and they are allowed to participate in PIA.
AIPA recommending members engage in unprotected action would hardly be in the members best interest.
The AIPA negotiators did not believe PIA would lead to a better EA outcome. It is not possible at this stage to determine who is correct. So far, the AFAP PIA has not achieved its presumed purpose of extracting a superior EA offer from the company. Hopefully this will change and the pilots will achieve the improved conditions they deserve.
The AIPA negotiators did not believe PIA would lead to a better EA outcome.
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AIPA had not undertaken a PIA ballot, so advising its members to take any form of industrial action would have been unprotected. The members would have been liable for
penalties of up to $18,780 and the union $93,900.
Several AIPA members are also AFAP members and they are allowed to participate in PIA.
AIPA recommending members engage in unprotected action would hardly be in the members best interest.
The AIPA negotiators did not believe PIA would lead to a better EA outcome. It is not possible at this stage to determine who is correct. So far, the AFAP PIA has not achieved its presumed purpose of extracting a superior EA offer from the company. Hopefully this will change and the pilots will achieve the improved conditions they deserve.
penalties of up to $18,780 and the union $93,900.
Several AIPA members are also AFAP members and they are allowed to participate in PIA.
AIPA recommending members engage in unprotected action would hardly be in the members best interest.
The AIPA negotiators did not believe PIA would lead to a better EA outcome. It is not possible at this stage to determine who is correct. So far, the AFAP PIA has not achieved its presumed purpose of extracting a superior EA offer from the company. Hopefully this will change and the pilots will achieve the improved conditions they deserve.
PIA has demonstrated Pilot Unity, resolve & extracted a price from QF who are intent on waging industrial warfare on its workforce.
We will all know soon enough the outcome and can then judge the results.
The Pilot cohort has already achieved a moral victory. This has moved beyond what QF IR can control. Even if QF “wins” this battle, at what cost to the ongoing operation?
We will all know soon enough the outcome and can then judge the results.
The Pilot cohort has already achieved a moral victory. This has moved beyond what QF IR can control. Even if QF “wins” this battle, at what cost to the ongoing operation?
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All of which could have been achieved by holding your ground at the negotiating table and voting down the deals.
Rumour is Network losing work that they may not get back.
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If that is true then thanks to Qantas IR/NS etc they would have lost far more money from losing a fifo contract than it would have cost to just pay Network pilots what they deserve.
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