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Old 17th Jan 2023, 11:14
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Dear God (if you believe in one of them), you're actually holding the WHO up as experts? One of the most corrupt organisations on the planet. They are part of the UN after all, another paragon of truth and virtue.
Against anonymous posters on a non-medical professional forum giving their unsubstantiated 2c worth? Every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
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Old 17th Jan 2023, 11:15
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I dont give a ****

Best thing I ever did was leave the industry. The looming mandate for me was the FINAL insult.
I make 20% more money now working half the hours I did in the industry. I also have no stress and much less responsibility.
But the best thing is I didnt change my values to comply with peer pressure or the like.
Not having a Mrs who wanted a new kitchen or snotty kids in private schools made my decision much easier.
I enjoy watching people argue and deny what they said and did now. Many people like me wont forget and we have it all on record.

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Old 17th Jan 2023, 11:48
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But for some reason none of you can see the lies, deceit and manipulation that went along with this scam of a virus and the vaccination. Fourth and fifth boosters, really??????

Time after time after time, claims were made about the efficacy of this vaccine, the longer time goes on the more problems have surfaced. But those of you blinded by your trust in corrupt organisations will not allow yourselves to objectively review the EVIDENCE.
Well, c’mon then. Who’s telling about “the problems”? Who’s telling you about “the scam”? Where did you find out about the “lies, deceit and manipulation”?

Where do you get your info? Could you link a few of these websites please?
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Old 17th Jan 2023, 12:38
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Originally Posted by doublemamba
Best thing I ever did was leave the industry. The looming mandate for me was the FINAL insult.
I make 20% more money now working half the hours I did in the industry. I also have no stress and much less responsibility.
But the best thing is I didnt change my values to comply with peer pressure or the like.
Not having a Mrs who wanted a new kitchen or snotty kids in private schools made my decision much easier.
I enjoy watching people argue and deny what they said and did now. Many people like me wont forget and we have it all on record.
Well as you are no longer in the industry then you do NOT BELONG on this website.Piss off, go away and do not clutter this website with your bitter and twistered crap.
You are no longer a professional pilot so fade into obscurity and get along with your seemingly delightful existence.
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Old 17th Jan 2023, 12:50
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Good that you left the industry as my pay has doubled while Hoods like you left….Winning!
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Old 17th Jan 2023, 22:06
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https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/t...uietly-tacitly

I have an open mind and look forward to been shown why he is wrong. Just saying he is a right wing nut case won’t cut the mustard I’m afraid.
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Old 17th Jan 2023, 22:16
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Originally Posted by dragon man
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/t...uietly-tacitly

I have an open mind and look forward to been shown why he is wrong. Just saying he is a right wing nut case won’t cut the mustard I’m afraid.
What an absolute crock of **** LOL. All speculation as usual with no scientific proof.



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Old 17th Jan 2023, 23:52
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Prolonged PR is generally first degree heart block. It's incredibly common going back forever. The widened criteria come with a caveat of, if less than 0.3sec and asymptomatic then ok, if over 0.3 then diagnose further.

I honestly don't see why there is a problem in letting someone who has a common abnormality that is fully compensated and asymptomatic fly an aeroplane.
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Old 17th Jan 2023, 23:52
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Prolonged PR is generally first degree heart block. It's incredibly common going back forever. The widened criteria come with a caveat of, if less than 0.3sec and asymptomatic then ok, if over 0.3 then diagnose further.

I honestly don't see why there is a problem in letting someone who has a common abnormality that is fully compensated and asymptomatic fly an aeroplane.
COVID or vaccines don't even come into it, this is just straight cardiology
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Old 17th Jan 2023, 23:59
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Against anonymous posters on a non-medical professional forum giving their unsubstantiated 2c worth? Every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
Good for you, genuinely happy for you. You keep doing you.
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 00:01
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Well, c’mon then. Who’s telling about “the problems”? Who’s telling you about “the scam”? Where did you find out about the “lies, deceit and manipulation”?

Where do you get your info? Could you link a few of these websites please?
​​​​​​​There are plenty of peer reviewed articles and information out there. In other words, DYOR.
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 00:21
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Originally Posted by dragon man
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/t...uietly-tacitly

I have an open mind and look forward to been shown why he is wrong. Just saying he is a right wing nut case won’t cut the mustard I’m afraid.
All professional airline pilots in Australia have been vaccinated, most of them in early 2021. As most are above 30 requiring a routine ECG every two years (and yearly above 40) I’d estimate about 75-80% of pilots in this country have had at least 1 ECG post vaccination. I haven’t remotely heard of anyone having an ECG problem after their vaccine. Yes that dude is a nut case - appears he is denigrating vaccines to promote his own quack treatments like Hydroxychloroquine.

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There are plenty of peer reviewed articles and information out there. In other words, DYOR.
The overwhelming body of scientific and medical expertise vs a fringe of random quacks. Quacks whom you still refuse to identify or reveal where you get your information from. At least the poster above revealed they where they were getting info from, and like I said, it turned out to be another HCQ myth spreading quack.

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Old 18th Jan 2023, 04:19
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Originally Posted by dr dre

…I’d estimate about 75-80% of pilots in this country have had at least 1 ECG post vaccination.


I haven’t remotely heard of anyone having an ECG problem after their vaccine.


Interesting.

So no Australian airline pilots have had ECG ‘problems’ in the last two years ?

Perhaps the ATSB needs to look into these vaccines, they are apparently a miracle cure..
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 04:26
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Originally Posted by Bend alot
I assume this one at 1:30ish is no expert due that silly thing around his neck!

They all said it!

They were all wrong!

Jack said it best, in An officer and a gentleman!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEUkuv18oXc

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Before the ‘go-back’ ability’s we now have via YouTube etc we most certainly would never have seen that clip replayed by the commercial media..

60 minutes obviously think their audience are morons. Apparently the only way to tell that the person being interviewed is a ‘doctor’ is to hang that thingy around his neck..
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 05:25
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Originally Posted by dr dre



The overwhelming body of scientific and medical expertise vs a fringe of random quacks. Quacks whom you still refuse to identify or reveal where you get your information from.
No government or Chief Health Officer has shown any of this evidence for the actions they took - QLD Police Commissioner was TOLD to supply such evidence by a Judge, but fail to supply anything at all (she forgot).

You still do not believe the "extreamly" high efficacy claims by the Big Pharma are actual and not manipulated numbers do you?

"If a vaccine has high efficacy, a lot fewer people in the group who received the vaccine got sick than the people in the group who received the placebo."
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 05:32
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Originally Posted by Flying Binghi
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Before the ‘go-back’ ability’s we now have via YouTube etc we most certainly would never have seen that clip replayed by the commercial media..

60 minutes obviously think their audience are morons. Apparently the only way to tell that the person being interviewed is a ‘doctor’ is to hang that thingy around his neck..
That "doctor" is where the government got their "expert" information from!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is the point AND every media group was play that same stuff and you all went and got jabbed so you could - Go back to work, Get back to the new normal, Not die, not pass it on to your grand parents, Travel, Go to bars, Go to the Gym and much more - Most did not do it for medical reasons, but to get back to normal.
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 08:24
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The overwhelming body of scientific and medical expertise vs a fringe of random quacks.
How arrogant are you to say that a medical professional that has differing research results to what you blindly want to follow is a quack. Arrogant and supremely stupid to think you can blindly trust your pre-defined source. People like you don't deserve democracy and those who gave it to you. Why don't you go live in China where your blind trust in government will reward you with like minds.

What does it say to you when a person of Fauci's credentials tells you that taking a vaccination will prevent you getting a virus when it is patently wrong, either he's a liar or incredibly incompetent. It is on record. But you want a source? It's there, can't be erased, you work out the 'source.' You work it out, you appear to have an abundance of time. I don't.

​​​​​​​Quacks whom you still refuse to identify or reveal where you get your information from.
Grow up. It's out there. Just because evidence that counters yours is not as prolific doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

​​​​​​​At least the poster above revealed they where they were getting info from, and like I said, it turned out to be another HCQ myth spreading quack.
​​​​​​​Whatever mate.
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 16:32
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Originally Posted by tossbag
Grow up. It's out there. Just because evidence that counters yours is not as prolific doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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Where? People are always thumping their chests and screaming “it’s out there!!!” but where? More links to nut jobs who write articles on pure speculation like the one posted above? Where are the peer reviewed studies that support the evidence?

Im not on a particular side of this argument either. I took the jabs to keep my job as most did and now that everything is back to normal in my life I don’t see why a very small but vocal minority are still screaming at the clouds about it all.
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 19:23
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I don’t see why a very small but vocal minority are still screaming at the clouds about it all.
Let me explain it to you again:

2 weeks to flatten the curve .... BS of the highest order
Trust the science .... rigged science that allowed no debate when debate is the foundation of science
Censorship ..... anyone who had an opposing view was systematically banned from every platform
One jab is all you will need. .... now up to 4 with a 5th coming
Herd immunity .... surely you remember that puppy that didn't develop?
Masks .... how strapping an old petri dish of expired moisture would protect us and others
Aged care .... how isolating the elderly and locking them indoors somehow improved their quality of life

I could keep going. It seems some of you have very short memories though. Let me. sum it up:

There was very little science and a whole heap of BS from people who should have known better.
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 21:21
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Im not on a particular side of this argument either. I took the jabs to keep my job as most did and now that everything is back to normal in my life I don’t see why…
Just roll over and forget, eh.. Go back to watching the nightly news. They will keep you informed…



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