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Old 17th Jan 2023, 00:40
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Nothing I read indicated it would stop transmission. It was only ever sold to me as reducing severity of symptoms which it did .
Then you've either got a poor memory or you're not digging deep enough. All of the elites promised that it would prevent transmission. If you don't care that you're lied to continually for the 'greater good' no probs.
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Old 17th Jan 2023, 00:56
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All of the elites promised that it would prevent transmission. .
Absolutely not. A lot of experts expressed hope that vaccines would reduce transmission, which they probably do by reducing viral load and shortening the infectious period. But expert advice has never promised that vaccination would prevent transmission.
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Old 17th Jan 2023, 00:59
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When you get vaccinated, you not only protect your own health and that of the family but also you contribute to the community health by preventing the spread of the virus throughout the community,” Fauci said. “In other words, you become a dead end to the virus. And when there are a lot of dead ends around, the virus is not going to go anywhere. And that’s when you get a point that you have a markedly diminished rate of infection in the community.”
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Old 17th Jan 2023, 01:01
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Wrong, Fauci stated it would stop transmission, Sutton stated it would stop transmission. When it was found not to, the narrative changed to 'it will reduce severity'
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Old 17th Jan 2023, 03:02
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I didn't get it thinking I couldn't get the virus, because no-one said it meant you couldn't get the virus. It has done exactly what it promised to do.
you must not have been paying attention because EVERYONE was saying it meant you couldnt get the virus , and you wouldn't transmitt the virus. anyone who said the opposite was canceled to appease the likes of you .

if you were in a coma for a couple of years and then only got your shots inn the last 6 months when the experts began to change the reality your statement might make sense .

here is a YouTube video full of important people saying the jab stops you getting it and spreading it and only the unvaxed will get it . you can find many more of other experts saying all the same thing . Hard to understand why you think this never happened.

you probably don't like YouTube because it's " full of nut cases" . Or maybe it's a edit job. But try to suspend your disbelief and try to ignore the dramatic music , its there to highlight the iriny

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Old 17th Jan 2023, 05:17
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Absolutely not. A lot of experts expressed hope that vaccines would reduce transmission, which they probably do by reducing viral load and shortening the infectious period. But expert advice has never promised that vaccination would prevent transmission.
I assume this one at 1:30ish is no expert due that silly thing around his neck!

They all said it!

They were all wrong!

Jack said it best, in An officer and a gentleman!

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Old 17th Jan 2023, 07:08
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So, you fools that believe everything you are told by the elites, you feel a little stupid? No, you'll just make up some bull**** excuse for being stupid enough to believe the liars science.
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Old 17th Jan 2023, 07:57
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https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org...d/arrhythmias/

ECG PR interval has been increased from 200ms to 300ms by the FAA for pilot medicals.

An interval greater than 200ms indicates damage, one of the known causes being myocarditis.
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Old 17th Jan 2023, 08:44
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To communicate the importance of being vaccinated, the message has to be clear and concise. Vaccination provides protection, so get vaccinated. You can argue all you like whether you want that protection or not, but arguing that we were being lied to is fruitless. The WHO states that

When someone is vaccinated, they are very likely to be protected against the targeted disease. But not everyone can be vaccinated. People with underlying health conditions that weaken their immune systems (such as cancer or HIV) or who have severe allergies to some vaccine components may not be able to get vaccinated with certain vaccines. These people can still be protected if they live in and amongst others who are vaccinated. When a lot of people in a community are vaccinated the pathogen has a hard time circulating because most of the people it encounters are immune. So the more that others are vaccinated, the less likely people who are unable to be protected by vaccines are at risk of even being exposed to the harmful pathogens. This is called herd immunity.

This is especially important for those people who not only can’t be vaccinated but may be more susceptible to the diseases we vaccinate against. No single vaccine provides 100% protection, and herd immunity does not provide full protection to those who cannot safely be vaccinated. But with herd immunity, these people will have substantial protection, thanks to those around them being vaccinated.

Vaccinating not only protects yourself, but also protects those in the community who are unable to be vaccinated. If you are able to, get vaccinated.

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No amount of baying about the 'elites' will change the advice from the WHO which is pretty easy to understand, even for pilots. But as always the following caveat applies - a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.

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Old 17th Jan 2023, 09:05
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Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer
To communicate the importance of being vaccinated, the message has to clear and concise. Vaccination provides protection, so get vaccinated. You can argue all you like whether you want that protection or not, but arguing that we were being lied to is fruitless. The WHO states that



No amount of baying about the 'elites' will change the advice from the WHO which is pretty easy to understand, even for pilots. But as always the following caveat applies - a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.
As per your paste- How?

Vaccinating not only protects yourself, but also protects those in the community who are unable to be vaccinated.
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Old 17th Jan 2023, 09:17
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Dear God (if you believe in one of them), you're actually holding the WHO up as experts? One of the most corrupt organisations on the planet. They are part of the UN after all, another paragon of truth and virtue.
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Old 17th Jan 2023, 09:20
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Nothing I read indicated it would stop transmission. It was only ever sold to me as reducing severity of symptoms which it did .
How do you know it reduced the symptoms? You have as much evidence for that as an unvaccinated person who suffered from minimal symptoms stating that the vaccine is unnecessary.
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Old 17th Jan 2023, 09:49
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Dear God (if you believe in one of them), you're actually holding the WHO up as experts? One of the most corrupt organisations on the planet. They are part of the UN after all, another paragon of truth and virtue.
Tell you what, reveal what “experts” you think give the “truth” about the Covid vaccine, and I bet I can find incompetence, lies, rubbish, quackery or misleading info til the cows come home…..
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Anti-vax fest in this topic!

Like Joe Blow and Karen, sitting in 32A &B, not understanding why the crew is taking a Wx deviation. Because looking out from their side window: "I see only blue sky!" And then debating it with flight attendants or passengers sitting next to them

All in all if you guys still didn't figured out after 3 years, nothing will...
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Old 17th Jan 2023, 10:20
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Tell you what, reveal what “experts” you think give the “truth” about the Covid vaccine, and I bet I can find incompetence, lies, rubbish, quackery or misleading info til the cows come home…..
Indeed Dr. Dre! At least you are now admitting that lies, rubbish, quackery or misleading information was promulgated by both sides. I would say that the side that lied the most was the same side that prevented, censored, coerced and controlled the narrative and was the beneficiary of obscene big pharma profits.

I mean, I could go back through your posts and others and find gems like:

"Trust the science" - sorry, science has always welcomed open and frank debate, but not in this case.
"One vaccine is all you will need" - now up to four or five
"The vaccine will stop transmission" - sure thing, that has happened (not)
"75% vaccinated will bring about herd immunity " Pardon? Pure garbage.

If you remember anything you will remember the "herd immunity" thing was the "in science". Bandied about daily for months even. REMEMBER??? Till it was not. What happened to it? Pure BS from the start.

Look, I don't give a rats ar$e about any of this stuff nor do I care either way about a vaccine that likely causes little harm. I do care that we were so stupid collectively that we have forgotten the lies, deception and sheer bloody mindedness bandied about by the chief proponents of this event though.
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Old 17th Jan 2023, 10:28
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Originally Posted by KAPAC
. It was only ever sold to me as reducing severity of symptoms which it did .
not sure how you can possibly know that .
All the unjabbed I know reported something like a mild cold .
all the jabbed i know were in bed suffering but thought it would ve been much worse if they didn t have the shot .
i guess you ' ll never really know .

this jab formula also seems to include a memory modifier to erase the mountains of endless crap spouted by the experts in the early daze .
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not sure how you can possibly know that .
All the unjabbed I know reported something like a mild cold .
all the jabbed i know were in bed suffering but thought it would ve been much worse if they didn t have the shot .
i guess you ' ll never really know .

this jab formula also seems to include a memory modifier to erase the mountains of endless crap spouted by the experts in the early daze .
I looked up "anecdotal evidence"- there was a picture of you...
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Old 17th Jan 2023, 10:50
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Tell you what, reveal what “experts” you think give the “truth” about the Covid vaccine, and I bet I can find incompetence, lies, rubbish, quackery or misleading info til the cows come home…..
For the one hundred and ten thousanth time.............I am not anti-vax, for about the 10th time on this forum, I had the corona vax, I believe in vaccination. But for some reason none of you can see the lies, deceit and manipulation that went along with this scam of a virus and the vaccination. Fourth and fifth boosters, really??????

Time after time after time, claims were made about the efficacy of this vaccine, the longer time goes on the more problems have surfaced. But those of you blinded by your trust in corrupt organisations will not allow yourselves to objectively review the EVIDENCE.
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Old 17th Jan 2023, 10:53
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Indeed Dr. Dre! At least you are now admitting that lies, rubbish, quackery or misleading information was promulgated by both sides.
No, I’m not saying that, but as usual anti vaxxers love to make up things that please them.

Some are saying the WHO (and I guess all the official Australian medical groups) are corrupt and lying with their vaccine advice.

I just want to know from these people who is “exposing the truth” about vaccines? Because over the course of the pandemic whenever they reveal their sources they’re usually nutters, like this post made “exposing the truth” about vaccines, which was from a fanatical religious website that promoted Chemtrail conspiracies.

This is the level of idiocy the anti vax mob come up with, whenever they bother to say where they get their info from.
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Well let’s just say in hindsight Australia’s handling of the Corona was a complete Clusterf*ck , that’s a given. Every single country will settle with a similar death rate over the years, no one can be better than another. China is finding that first hand now. I can’t believe people are still arguing for and against vaccination, FFS vaccination is what separated the west from the rest, and that is now showing in backward ghettos such as China these days. Everyone knows Chinas vaccines are crap, but no one actually says it! China will be the worst COVID disaster country on the planet, that’s a given!
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