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Old 22nd Jan 2023, 05:45
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I don't know where you got your numbers from, but I believe they're out by a long way. For the 1st April 2022 Old is recorded as 740 CV deaths and WA 52, from this website: https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-deaths/wa

You can check on all states.
52 your joking same web site you refer states just in Jan 2023 WA deaths @60.

Even from today going back to 1 April WA has 849 C deaths V QLD 1834

Given the population they are 50 apart and it swings both ways - the 20% higher boost rate and higher fully stabbed rate has shown no real benefit.

Try excel for addition.

WA from your link.

DATE DEATHS 20 Jan 23 21 13 Jan 23 24 06 Jan 23 15 30 Dec 22 4 23 Dec 22 30 16 Dec 22 15 09 Dec 22 28 02 Dec 22 14

151 far greater than your claim of 52.
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You obviously have no clue what science is, whenever you say science you should use inverted commas. Science isn't about DYOR on Youtube, Telegram, QAnon etc, it's about the quality of the organisation presenting the work, not some dumb@rse comedian on whatever the site is or the fringe of scientific consensus.

Btw, you should also look into "peer review", maybe speak to someone who's completed a high end degree what real peer review is. Over the last few decades "peer review" sites have proliferated because of the drive for academics having to publish to gain recognition.
https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom...ll-save-lives/
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You also have to look into how the peer review was done. Turns out they sometimes just use the data of said experiment, rather than how it was conducted etc. Depends who is paying for the peer review.
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WTH!

Originally Posted by Bend alot
52 your joking same web site you refer states just in Jan 2023 WA deaths @60.

Even from today going back to 1 April WA has 849 C deaths V QLD 1834

Given the population they are 50 apart and it swings both ways - the 20% higher boost rate and higher fully stabbed rate has shown no real benefit.

Try excel for addition.

WA from your link.

DATE DEATHS 20 Jan 23 21 13 Jan 23 24 06 Jan 23 15 30 Dec 22 4 23 Dec 22 30 16 Dec 22 15 09 Dec 22 28 02 Dec 22 14

151 far greater than your claim of 52.
I don't know what you're reading and I don't need Excel as there's no adding to actual do, the figures are all there for you. Total Deaths in WA to the 20th Jan 2023 is 901, that's the number under the column titled "Deaths", next column isn't titled, it's a red triangle pointing up if the weekly death total is greater than the last week, a black dot if zero and a black triangle pointing down if reduced and the third column is titled "Net" and its the deaths for that week. Add the 21from the 20th June 2022 line to the 13th Jan 2023 880 deaths figure and you get 901 for the 20th June 2023. Back on the 1st April 2022 tot deaths were 52 and 740 in Old. QLD pops 1.9 x WA's, so multiply 52 x 1.9 = 99. So if WA had the same pop as Qld our total deaths be 99!

Based on the 20th jan 2023, WA total deaths is 901, Qld's 2,574. Multiply 901 x 1.9 = 1712 which would be WA's total deaths if corrected to Qld's population. Per head of pop deaths are as follows: WA is 1 death per 3091, QLD is 1 death per 2067. These are based on ABS state pop data 30th June 2022: https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/pe...ation/jun-2022

WA Total Deaths: https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-deaths/wa
Qld Total deaths: https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-deaths/qld

WA's deaths accelerated after we opened up and starting "living" with covid.
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Old 22nd Jan 2023, 09:01
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Cool it is like total hrs mate - WA opened late (to save lives).

You have 200 hrs now since your PPL - you had 300 before that.

Your total is now 500 hrs - only the 200 is what I am interested in.

I am only talking from opening up time - not total time in service.

Had WA opened the same day as QLD (as they should have) you would then clearly see.
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Originally Posted by exfocx
I don't know what you're reading and I don't need Excel as there's no adding to actual do, the figures are all there for you. Total Deaths in WA to the 20th Jan 2023 is 901, that's the number under the column titled "Deaths", next column isn't titled, it's a red triangle pointing up if the weekly death total is greater than the last week, a black dot if zero and a black triangle pointing down if reduced and the third column is titled "Net" and its the deaths for that week. Add the 21from the 20th June 2022 line to the 13th Jan 2023 880 deaths figure and you get 901 for the 20th June 2023. Back on the 1st April 2022 tot deaths were 52 and 740 in Old. QLD pops 1.9 x WA's, so multiply 52 x 1.9 = 99. So if WA had the same pop as Qld our total deaths be 99!

Based on the 20th jan 2023, WA total deaths is 901, Qld's 2,574. Multiply 901 x 1.9 = 1712 which would be WA's total deaths if corrected to Qld's population. Per head of pop deaths are as follows: WA is 1 death per 3091, QLD is 1 death per 2067. These are based on ABS state pop data 30th June 2022: https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/pe...ation/jun-2022

WA Total Deaths: https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-deaths/wa
Qld Total deaths: https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-deaths/qld

WA's deaths accelerated after we opened up and starting "living" with covid.
Simply question - How many lives were saved in WA compared QLD?
As of 1 Jan 2023.
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You obviously have no clue what science is, whenever you say science you should use inverted commas. Science isn't about DYOR on Youtube, Telegram, QAnon etc, it's about the quality of the organisation presenting the work, not some dumb@rse comedian on whatever the site is or the fringe of scientific consensus.

Btw, you should also look into "peer review", maybe speak to someone who's completed a high end degree what real peer review is. Over the last few decades "peer review" sites have proliferated because of the drive for academics having to publish to gain recognition.
Ah you're a cack! Most reputable organisations have youtube channels, hate to break it to you, but it's a heavily censored platform favouring your mates mainly. There ya go again, you can't disagree with someone without accusing them of being conspiracy theory nut-jobs. Have never visited a QAnon site, sorry to disappoint you, have never used telegram, not on any groups, sorry to disappoint you again. Dumbarse comedian eh, probably has a couple more brain cells than you possess but that's beside the point, where were we? Peer review that's right!

By the way, what's a high end degree? Can't say I've heard of one of them. Is the high end bit where they teach them 'real peer review?'
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Context????

I notice there is no accreditation of the writer of that piece by Peter Doshi. Below are some responses to his work. I'd also say have a look at the rest of their site on covid instead of cherry picking pieces you come across from google searches. Btw, he appears to have a history of being anti vaxx, and an American to boot. And he got want he wanted, hit after hit of anti vaxx sites quoting him.

Btw, he's on the journalism staff: https://www.bmj.com/about-bmj/editorial-staff


https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/wha...ed-to-the-bmj/

https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/...or-at-the-bmj/
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Pot calls kettle black!

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Ah you're a cack! Most reputable organisations have youtube channels, hate to break it to you, but it's a heavily censored platform favouring your mates mainly. There ya go again, you can't disagree with someone without accusing them of being conspiracy theory nut-jobs. Have never visited a QAnon site, sorry to disappoint you, have never used telegram, not on any groups, sorry to disappoint you again. Dumbarse comedian eh, probably has a couple more brain cells than you possess but that's beside the point, where were we? Peer review that's right!

By the way, what's a high end degree? Can't say I've heard of one of them. Is the high end bit where they teach them 'real peer review?'
lololol people who use conspiracy theory websites as evidence get called that for a reason. You accuse me of accusing people I disagree with as CTs, then you go into an ad hominem attack, well done! I would like to point out to you, as it seems to have bypassed you, that Youtube isn't a HEAVILY censored site.

I understand why using 'high end degree' would confuse you as you think the sh!t you read and put here as evidence is legitimate. You lack even the basic understanding of going about evaluating the "science" and "evidence" you read.
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woo-hoo, keep goin' champ, you're on a roll

You didn't tell us what a 'high end degree' is............
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You certainly do bend a lot!

Originally Posted by Bend alot
Cool it is like total hrs mate - WA opened late (to save lives).

You have 200 hrs now since your PPL - you had 300 before that.

Your total is now 500 hrs - only the 200 is what I am interested in.

I am only talking from opening up time - not total time in service.

Had WA opened the same day as QLD (as they should have) you would then clearly see.
As of the 20th June 2023 WA had 1 death per 3091 people, Qld had 1 death per 2067, or if you prefer deaths per 1000. Total deaths x 1000 / pop. WA = 0.323 deaths per 1000, Qld = 0.484 deaths per 1000, so Qld's death rate is over 1/3 more per 1000 people! Doesn't matter you try and run it, Qld is way behind.

Edit:
Okay, on googling opening dates, WA opened around 5/3/22, Qld 13/12/21 and you were correct, deaths were 7 Vs 11, which makes your position even more damning as Qld's position re deaths is worse!

WA deaths from the 1st April 22 were 849, Qld deaths were 1834.

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Dumb as, Champ!

Originally Posted by tossbag
woo-hoo, keep goin' champ, you're on a roll

You didn't tell us what a 'high end degree' is............
Physics, Medicine, Maths, Dentistry, Chemistry, Biochemistry, Data Science etc

Responding that way you have shows you have no argument.

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So, the listed degrees, have they been peer reviewed as high end? Or is that a bull**** term you made up?
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"Youtube isn't a HEAVILY censored site." Now that's funny.

Ask Dr (yes I know he's a nurse) John Campbell about YT rules.
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"Youtube isn't a HEAVILY censored site." Now that's funny.

Ask Dr (yes I know he's a nurse) John Campbell about YT rules.
Dr John's Phd is in nurse education, plenty of the "stuff" he's put up has been refuted more times than you can poke a stick at it.

So it shows it isn't a completely unregulated site, that you can't post complete bs, so what! Russel brand is proof it isn't heavily regulated.
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So, the listed degrees, have they been peer reviewed as high end? Or is that a bull**** term you made up?

You're a waste of space!
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You're a waste of space!
why r u so angry Exofcx ? seriuos question .

as has been pointed out the mandate 's are over , everyone ' s had the bug , we can all go to the pub again . yet you are still bent out of shape - why is this ?

Is it because you regret your decision to take the jab ? be honest.

this whole anger thing by the jabber 's facsinate 's me.
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Originally Posted by FatPilot
why r u so angry Exofcx ? seriuos question .

as has been pointed out the mandate 's are over , everyone ' s had the bug , we can all go to the pub again . yet you are still bent out of shape - why is this ?

Is it because you regret your decision to take the jab ? be honest.

this whole anger thing by the jabber 's facsinate 's me.
Why are you so obsessed Fat Pilot? The mandates are over, everyone’s jabbed or had the big bad bug or both yet you’re still here yapping on. Why are you so bent out of shape?

Maybe you should take some time away from the old Pprune and get some lessons outlining punctuation, spelling and grammar. You make us pilots look bad when you post that garbage.

Jokes on me though you’re not even a pilot
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You're a waste of space!
Mate, I couldn't give a tinkers cuss what you think or say about me. It's a forum that has the gravitas of facebook. ​​​​​​​
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Originally Posted by FatPilot
why r u so angry Exofcx ? seriuos question .

as has been pointed out the mandate 's are over , everyone ' s had the bug , we can all go to the pub again . yet you are still bent out of shape - why is this ?

Is it because you regret your decision to take the jab ? be honest.

this whole anger thing by the jabber 's facsinate 's me.
What annoys me? Simple, anti-vaxx bs science and the continual denial of actual science, conspiracy theories and the continual twisting of data and facts out of context are what annoy me.
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