All borders to reopen.

[Xeptu]

Originally Posted by LapSap

As long as you realize it cuts both ways... Its not just up to you.
Don't be surprised when YOU are ready to travel, that the option may not be open to you.
I'll vote for that.

I personally won't be travelling interstate for any reason before the borders are open, I understand and accept that. If I "MUST" travel interstate then I agree to accept those conditions and requirements expected of me and anyone else, both arriving in another state and upon my return. Is that what you meant.

[LapSap]

Originally Posted by Xeptu

I personally won't be travelling interstate for any reason before the borders are open, I understand and accept that. If I "MUST" travel interstate then I agree to accept those conditions and requirements expected of me and anyone else, both arriving in another state and upon my return. Is that what you meant.

No, no, no.
You are much too presumptuous.
I mean regardless you “MUST” travel interstate, you won’t mind the rest of us saying, “sorry pal, you’re not going anywhere for the foreseeable- or indeed unforeseeable future.”?

Care to elaborate on what you would classify as “MUST”?

[Xeptu]

Originally Posted by LapSap

No, no, no.
You are much too presumptuous.
I mean regardless you “MUST” travel interstate, you won’t mind the rest of us saying, “sorry pal, you’re not going anywhere for the foreseeable- or indeed unforeseeable future.”?

I'm sorry, if you want a meaningful response you'll have to be clearer on what you mean by this statement.

[Xeptu]

Originally Posted by LapSap

Care to elaborate on what you would classify as “MUST”?

Whilst a State of Emergency exists, I would define "MUST" as to render assistance to another State or Party in need of assistance.

[Square Bear]

Dr De, as requested....

admittedly an ABC report, most others are behind a paywall, and I wasn’t going to Treasury to find the direct reference for you. ABC NEWS REPORT

Seems to me that some states (NSW about the only exception) are using the pandemic to either hide inefficiencies or promote agendas,

...take QLD, the Premier in her daily live news report says that the State has one Covid case today...and the press and citizen are hyperventilating, up iin arms..but no-one questions the fact that the State debt is close to a 100 Billion dollars in debt...DEFLECTION...QLD has destroyed its financial, but nothing to see here.

The WA Premier sticks to his guns about closing the borders to keep the disease out, but not that long ago he was spruiking that Interstate FIFO could bring their families over, settle in WA and financial assistance would be given.

Purpose to convince those from the Eastern States that even though you will live a zillion miles from your family and friends, WA is a great place to live. AGENDA....WA does not have to rely on FIFO.

And using a giant State Origin mentality to peruse those aims.

SAD really.

[KRviator]

Originally Posted by Square Bear

The WA Premier sticks to his guns about closing the borders to keep the disease out, but not that long ago he was spruiking that Interstate FIFO could bring their families over, settle in WA and financial assistance would be given. Purpose to convince those from the Eastern States that even though you will live a zillion miles from your family and friends, WA is a great place to live. AGENDA....WA does not have to rely on FIFO..

We briefly considered that "offer" - my employer did up a whole pack with draft figures etc - and we both wholeheartedly rejected it outright. We would be, literally, several tens of thousands of dollars worse off if we were to relocate to WA, and that is with the relocation assistance on offer. And that's not counting the hundreds of thousands of QF FF points we'd lose over years to come as well from not going back east. Oh, there's also the annoying little problem of being the other side of the country from everyone we know and care about. Having to find new paediatricians and other specialists but according to McGowan "Come to WA, here's $20K!".

What that idiot doesn't realise about interstate FIFO is this: If enough WA residents did the bloody work, the big miners wouldn't NEED interstate FIFO! The simple fact is, they can't or won't do it, particularly in more highly specialised roles, which is why not only the big players, but even contractors will offer FIFO roles with fully-paid-for flights back to Sydney, Brisbane, etc. Kind of makes me wonder if that was the reason they excluded both FIFO Specialists and non-specialists from the Closing the Border direction amendment that was signed back in July...

[Ragnor]

There should be uproar across the NT about this. Borders closed means borders are closed.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp....ticle/12608080

[C441]

Here in Queensland I’m waiting for Annastacia to close the border between the suburbs south and west of Brisbane and those to the north and east using the same rationale that has been used to close the NSW/Qld border. Premier, if you let any of those contagious Covid clowns over to this side of the river we won’t vote for you!

[Turnleft080]

Originally Posted by C441

Here in Queensland I’m waiting for Annastacia to close the border between the suburbs south and west of Brisbane and those to the north and east using the same rationale that has been used to close the NSW/Qld border. Premier, if you let any of those contagious Covid clowns over to this side of the river we won’t vote for you!

Struth, I thought Marg Thatcher was bad.

[Bend alot]

Originally Posted by Ragnor

There should be uproar across the NT about this. Borders closed means borders are closed.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp....ticle/12608080

NT border is not closed!

Scomo has closed international borders - NT is happy for visitors/workers from low COVID areas, as are some other states.

The link seems the Vanuatu government does not want it's citizens to leave its country mostly.

[Bend alot]

Originally Posted by C441

Here in Queensland I’m waiting for Annastacia to close the border between the suburbs south and west of Brisbane and those to the north and east using the same rationale that has been used to close the NSW/Qld border. Premier, if you let any of those contagious Covid clowns over to this side of the river we won’t vote for you!

Containment lines is not a bad idea - best sort the LINES before it is required - so they are known.

[currawong]

Originally Posted by Square Bear

Dr De, as requested....

admittedly an ABC report, most others are behind a paywall, and I wasn’t going to Treasury to find the direct reference for you. ABC NEW REPORT

Seems to me that some states (NSW about the only exception) are using the pandemic to either hide inefficiencies or promote agendas,

...take QLD, the Premier in her daily live news report says that the State has one Covid case today...and the press and citizen are hyperventilating, up iin arms..but no-one questions the fact that the State debt is close to a 100 Billion dollars in debt...DEFLECTION...QLD has destroyed its financial, but nothing to see here.

The WA Premier sticks to his guns about closing the borders to keep the disease out, but not that long ago he was spruiking that Interstate FIFO could bring their families over, settle in WA and financial assistance would be given.

Purpose to convince those from the Eastern States that even though you will live a zillion miles from your family and friends, WA is a great place to live. AGENDA....WA does not have to rely on FIFO.

And using a giant State Origin mentality to peruse those aims.

SAD really.

Might want to fix that link up....

[baylover]

Relax, we are Australians, we will recover.

[White Knight]

Originally Posted by TurnLeft080

Struth, I thought Marg Thatcher was bad.

She was never bad matey. But she was hard as nails and did what needed doing - with the unions, Scargill, the Argies in '82, helping to end the Cold War (it was the Soviets who christened her the Iron Lady after all) with Reagan and Gorbachov just for starters! Best PM we've ever had in the UK...

[Ragnor]

Originally Posted by baylover

Relax, we are Australians, we will recover.

There is absolutely no doubt we will recover, I fear that the damage we are doing to our nation and its citizens are far worse than the virus itself.. That's my issue with the border closures they're not required and have certainly divided our nation. I thought we were Australian guess we are not.

[blubak]

Originally Posted by Ragnor

We will find out October 31st what the residents of the sunshine state really think! Anastasia Cairns stunt this morning of 11 million for projects, just might not be enough when it was reported that QLD tourism industry slated to loose 2.2B by end of the year.

Thats all she can afford,hope all the tourism operators vote for her.

[601]

fruit pickers from Vanuatu to travel to the Northern Territory

Are these pickers coming into Oz so that the our unemployed do not miss out on their mango smoothie while eating their smashed avocado in the big smoke?

[Ragnor]

International borders are closed which me and no pickers even if Vanuatu allow them to. We can’t have our smashed mango and eat it also.

[zanthrus]

I am just ignoring the whole lot and travelling as required for work anywhere they send me.

[Green.Dot]

I wonder if any Victorian based airlines/aviation businesses might jump in on this class action?

DA and his incompetent Govt has cost many many jobs and loss of earnings for businesses both in Vic and elsewhere.

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/vi...233952091.html