All borders to reopen.
Did you get a kick out of those who lost everything from the bushfires, Your position is no different, it's the same argument.
Not even close, Xeptu!
The bushfires were a natural disaster. COVID could also be described as a national disaster. Maybe. However, the issue being discussed here is not COVID itself, but the Government response to COVID, and that is what most of have an issue with. Bushfires you can defend against, you know your enemy, you can, if you deem it necessary, prepare your property. If you choose not to do so, and you lose your house, then I'm sorry, but perhaps building among the gum trees with minimal protection wasn't the right idea in the first place but that's as far as it goes for me. If you've done everything right, got a dam or tank, diesel firefighter pump, PPE and hose reels about your house and you still lose it, then you should be supported.
The difference is one of personal responsibility and ability of the individual to control the outcome. With COVID, we have none of that.
Do I want to catch it? Not at all. But I would rather take the chance of catching it, but wear PPE, wash my hands, not pick my nose etc, and have a fully functioning country and economy than what we have now - Governments at each others throats, a budget deficit that will take generations to pay off and tens of thousands of people unemployed.
The bushfires were a natural disaster. COVID could also be described as a national disaster. Maybe. However, the issue being discussed here is not COVID itself, but the Government response to COVID, and that is what most of have an issue with. Bushfires you can defend against, you know your enemy, you can, if you deem it necessary, prepare your property. If you choose not to do so, and you lose your house, then I'm sorry, but perhaps building among the gum trees with minimal protection wasn't the right idea in the first place but that's as far as it goes for me. If you've done everything right, got a dam or tank, diesel firefighter pump, PPE and hose reels about your house and you still lose it, then you should be supported.
The difference is one of personal responsibility and ability of the individual to control the outcome. With COVID, we have none of that.
Do I want to catch it? Not at all. But I would rather take the chance of catching it, but wear PPE, wash my hands, not pick my nose etc, and have a fully functioning country and economy than what we have now - Governments at each others throats, a budget deficit that will take generations to pay off and tens of thousands of people unemployed.
Xeptu is safely ensconced in his cave, so screw everyone else. I’d rather take my chances with coronavirus than be living in my car relying on food stamps within 12 months. And at the current rate, the latter is a much more likely occurrence.
Statements clearly made by someone who has never lived in the regions, you don't have any of that in a bushfire either and the outcome is the same, arguably less for you, you still have your house. So when the fires were finally out, where were you, did you join us installing water tanks and demountable accomodation, or was it just thoughts and prayers.
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But that comment makes a lot of sense you have had misery recently I feel for you. But don’t sit there behind your keyboard wishing it on others and be happy that others are being destroyed.
I'm actually offended, where on earth do you get the notion I wish it on others. I have always my entire life done what is in the best interest of the greater majority. Your problem is not recognising you are not in that majority.
The way out of this will be a national road map, but that would take a competent Federal government. Apart from putting us into debt giving pay rises to some casual and part time workers our current government has been quite clueless on how to guide us through this crisis. They've been more than happy to follow the Premiers and Arden's lead, and cowardly hide behind Clive Palmer. They refused to debate Australia's first recession in 3 decades yesterday in Parliament. So it's no surprise some Premiers feel they have to take the initiative on their own.
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This has been the problem since day one. No-one has ever bothered to either set or state the criteria for border openings. It’s an ad-hoc, scattergun process, varying between each state and territory, rather than a national approach in the national interest.
Having said that, Queensland’s CHO stated today they want to see 28 days with no community transmission in NSW before considering opening the border. As Gladys said, we may never see that. If there’s no vaccine, or it’s not completely effective, based on their own criteria, Queensland may stay closed to southern states in perpetuity.
It’s a frankly ridiculous state of affairs and our political leaders should hang their collective heads in shame at their inability to plan a way forward in the best interests of ALL Australians. If they want to stay shut then so be it but find a nationally agreed position, state what it is, and prepare Australians for what is to come.
If there has ever been a stronger scenario in the last 120 years arguing for the abolition of the states entirely, I fail to see it.
Having said that, Queensland’s CHO stated today they want to see 28 days with no community transmission in NSW before considering opening the border. As Gladys said, we may never see that. If there’s no vaccine, or it’s not completely effective, based on their own criteria, Queensland may stay closed to southern states in perpetuity.
It’s a frankly ridiculous state of affairs and our political leaders should hang their collective heads in shame at their inability to plan a way forward in the best interests of ALL Australians. If they want to stay shut then so be it but find a nationally agreed position, state what it is, and prepare Australians for what is to come.
If there has ever been a stronger scenario in the last 120 years arguing for the abolition of the states entirely, I fail to see it.
This is the biggest over reaction in history. Efforts are not directed in the right areas.
target protection for the elderly and vulnerable. The rest of us should be getting on with life with the appropriate precautions. Palaszczuk and McGowan have no idea what it means to be Australian. Remove all government subsidies, have them find their own medical care. Perhaps that will remind them. +1 on the flood levy.
My dad lives in QLD. Been a labor voter all his life. Wouldn’t spit on Palaszczuk he says. Both parents moving out of QLD ASAP. Disgusted with the place.
target protection for the elderly and vulnerable. The rest of us should be getting on with life with the appropriate precautions. Palaszczuk and McGowan have no idea what it means to be Australian. Remove all government subsidies, have them find their own medical care. Perhaps that will remind them. +1 on the flood levy.
My dad lives in QLD. Been a labor voter all his life. Wouldn’t spit on Palaszczuk he says. Both parents moving out of QLD ASAP. Disgusted with the place.
The problem is Anastasia is too unpredictable. We can’t be opening and closing. NSW might maintain 10 cases a day for a month then all of a sudden record 20 and she locks them out again. You then don’t get that border open for months. Madness.
I actually pity AJ and all his employees who have to put up with this BS. By all means vote her out folks.
I actually pity AJ and all his employees who have to put up with this BS. By all means vote her out folks.
That picture of her holding the footy is an absolute embarrasment & shows (as usual) its all about her.
I havent heard her bleating about how much its costing her bankrupt state to host the afl gf & how much revenue will come from 30,000 fans.
This statement comes up often - but NEVER has anyone supplied any information on how or how long details. I am very interested to hear more about protecting the vulnerable (that group includes the elderly by the way).
Me too, along with the benefits to an unaffected state opening its border and allowing the virus in.
My question to you is: What happens if (when) that is not achieved?
Quarantine shenanigans
You can't make this stuff up. There is some blue ribbon hypocrisy going on here. Nothing to do with an election I'm sure.
You can't make this stuff up. There is some blue ribbon hypocrisy going on here. Nothing to do with an election I'm sure.
If one case emerges then it is restart of quarantine for all.