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Old 31st Aug 2020, 00:51
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Originally Posted by goodonyamate
Nothing has changed for the moron xeptu. Probably gets government money in the bank every fortnight so doesn’t care.

You do know that WA stands for Western AUSTRALIA right? You want to go it alone, then you should lose all privileges and rights that come with being Australian. Because at the moment, you aren’t.
How about you pull your head in, stop your whining and fix the problem in your own state, That way the borders can be opened and you won't need to whine about the unaffected states counter measures to your problem.
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 00:53
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Originally Posted by Square Bear
According to Federal Treasury data, five local governments — Exmouth, Shark Bay, Dundas, Augusta-Margaret River and Denmark — had 50 per cent or more businesses apply for the payment.

That was the highest number of all the States and Territories.

Closing the borders totally is a good idea,.....as long as you don’t live in those local Govt areas I suppose.
Do you have a link to that data? I suspect the 50% may have come from JK applications in April/May, when even intrastate travel was restricted prior to Easter. After those restrictions were lifted it seems intrastate tourism is booming and places like Exmouth and Broome are doing quite well.

It wouldn’t be much of a stretch to say WA would have the lowest Jobkeeper uptake rate now of any state, and Victoria the highest.

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Old 31st Aug 2020, 01:27
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Those businesses employ very few people, it's not a major drain. It's not like a manufacturing plant that employs hundreds.

As for our military, well special ops and half the navy is based here, just saying
Be interesting to actually hear what the owners of these businesses think about it not being a major drain & also the people who work in them.
Wont be a concern of course to a premier still sitting in his luxury residence,still raking in his normal salary & eligible for a life long taxpayer funded pension.
I doubt many small business owners are happy to be told theyre not important.
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 01:32
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Originally Posted by goodonyamate
unaffected because you dont pull your weight.
Never have. My head is out because dumbasses like you are actively promoting and encouraging idiots like Palaszczuk and McGowan to continue with CCP like measures. You’ve basically given the finger to the rest of Australia.
unaffected...so you’d have no idea of the effect this is having on people. You just sit there sucking up taxpayer money.

dont even get me started about the sh$t you go an about on the QF thread. No knowledge, no idea, just an armchair expert with nothing better to do. Use your retirement to go and sail a boat or something. The aviation world doesn’t need your constant gloating and negativity.

4 cases in NSW today. All traced. What do you define as ‘under control’...zero transmission for 2 cycles? Not going to happen. Look at NZ, QLD, even your own WA. Tracing, targeted lockdowns/isolation and testing is the best way.

still a good chance Palmer will win...the high court considers the economic and social impacts, rather than just the health ones. Even the federal court deemed some states as ‘low risk’. There is no reason at all not to be open to those states.
Whatever! If it makes you feel better making it personal, you fill your boots. I really don't mind.
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 01:33
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Originally Posted by Xeptu
How about you pull your head in, stop your whining and fix the problem in your own state, That way the borders can be opened and you won't need to whine about the unaffected states counter measures to your problem.
Perhaps Victoria could withhold it's GST collection to do that, especially if Chairman Dan's little CCP deal gets the chop. Be interesting if a Border closure also affected the flow of cash...
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 01:39
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Originally Posted by Xeptu
Whatever! If it makes you feel better making it personal, you fill your boots. I really don't mind.
no it doesn’t. Does it make you feel better getting on here and telling everyone we have no idea what’s coming and we’ll be lucky if we aren’t made redundant etc etc? You do t think that’s personal? So get off your high horse. You’ve been making it personal all along.
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 01:42
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Originally Posted by goodonyamate
no it doesn’t. Does it make you feel better getting on here and telling everyone we have no idea what’s coming and we’ll be lucky if we aren’t made redundant etc etc? You do t think that’s personal? So get off your high horse. You’ve been making it personal all along.
Wrong Thread, different purpose and in any case what you read isn't necessarily what was meant.
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 01:45
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Originally Posted by goodonyamate
unaffected because you dont pull your weight.
Never have...You just sit there sucking up taxpayer money.
That statement is so typical of the ill-informed nonsense espoused by the 'wise men of the East'. Perhaps you could tell us which State contributes the most to Australia's export economy? I'll give you a little hint; it's not NSW or Victoria...
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 01:56
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That statement is so typical of the ill-informed nonsense espoused by the 'wise men of the East'. Perhaps you could tell us which State contributes the most to Australia's export economy? I'll give you a little hint; it's not NSW or Victoria...
my comment was in relation to the repatriation of Australians. Should have specified.
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 02:01
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Originally Posted by BuzzBox
That statement is so typical of the ill-informed nonsense espoused by the 'wise men of the East'. Perhaps you could tell us which State contributes the most to Australia's export economy? I'll give you a little hint; it's not NSW or Victoria...
And there it is. Australia's export economy. Not Western Australia's economy. Australia's economy. All fine and good to be part of the Federation when they want it to be, but the instant something doesn't go their way, "Phuck you Jack, I'm alright!"
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 02:04
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Originally Posted by KRviator
And there it is. Australia's export economy. Not Western Australia's economy. Australia's economy. All fine and good to be part of the Federation when they want it to be, but the instant something doesn't go their way, "Phuck you Jack, I'm alright!"

Spot on. AUSTRALIA.

there is no reason WA, SA, TAS, NT can’t have full and free movement. Too soon to call on NSW and QLD. Vic...obvious.
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 02:05
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Originally Posted by goodonyamate
my comment was in relation to the repatriation of Australians. Should have specified.
Nope, after careful review of your previous few posts, it pretty much looks directed at me personally.
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 02:14
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Originally Posted by goodonyamate
unaffected because you dont pull your weight.
Never have. My head is out because dumbasses like you are actively promoting and encouraging idiots like Palaszczuk and McGowan to continue with CCP like measures. You’ve basically given the finger to the rest of Australia.
All the way through these borders restrictions of the last few months I’ve noticed how all those who oppose the restrictions limit their anger to the premiers of WA and Qld, but ignore the premiers of SA and Tasmania who have instituted similar or even tougher restrictions (Tasmania closed completely until December 1).

Makes me think a lot of the anger is based on political ideology.
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 02:28
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We will find out October 31st what the residents of the sunshine state really think! Anastasia Cairns stunt this morning of 11 million for projects, just might not be enough when it was reported that QLD tourism industry slated to loose 2.2B by end of the year.
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 02:30
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Originally Posted by dr dre
All the way through these borders restrictions of the last few months I’ve noticed how all those who oppose the restrictions limit their anger to the premiers of WA and Qld, but ignore the premiers of SA and Tasmania who have instituted similar or even tougher restrictions (Tasmania closed completely until December 1).

Makes me think a lot of the anger is based on political ideology.
they are equally as guilty. However, They have not put an endless timeline on their closures. McGowan has, and Palaszczuk also has. Statements like ‘in line with medical advice’ are meaningless, as the medical advice differs between federal and state level.

I still maintain it’s too early to call on QLD, NSW and VIC. The rest of the states and territories should be open to each other. Locking out people from other states with zero or very few cases is nothing more than political.
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 02:32
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
We will find out October 31st what the residents of the sunshine state really think! Anastasia Cairns stunt this morning of 11 million for projects, just might not be enough when it was reported that QLD tourism industry slated to loose 2.2B by end of the year.
just curious, do you think the opposition should it win government, open the borders, is this an opposition election platform.
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 02:33
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Originally Posted by dr dre
All the way through these borders restrictions of the last few months I’ve noticed how all those who oppose the restrictions limit their anger to the premiers of WA and Qld, but ignore the premiers of SA and Tasmania who have instituted similar or even tougher restrictions (Tasmania closed completely until December 1).

Makes me think a lot of the anger is based on political ideology.
QLD, SA and NT have pretty similar restrictions.

Tasmania are continuing "travel restrictions" until Dec 1.

Non-Tasmanian residents, who are not classified as Essential Travellers, are required to quarantine in government-designated accommodation.

https://coronavirus.tas.gov.au/trave...ng-to-tasmania

I think this is a summary of travel in Australia. But my be errors pretty hard to work out* If you live in WA you can travel without quarantine/isolation to every state and territory except Tasmania that requires quarantine on entry . But not return to WA.


* If you live in SA you can travel without quarantine/isolation to NT, QLD.

Quarantine/isolation on return from Victoria, NSW and ACT.

Quarantine on entry into Tasmania.


* If you live in NT travel without quarantine/isolation to SA, QLD, NSW (except greater Sydney) and ACT.

Quarantine on arrival to Tasmania and on return from Greater Sydney and Victoria.


* If you live in QLD travel without quarantine/isolation to SA and NT.

Quarantine on arrival to Tasmania and on return from NSW, ACT and Victoria.


* If you live in NSW travel without quarantine/isolation to ACT.

Quarantine on arrival to Tasmania, SA and QLD and on return from , ACT and Victoria.
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 03:11
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Originally Posted by Xeptu
Well actually no we won't. The economy in our state is pretty much back to normal. Our covid wards are empty and our reserve staff waiting to be called are still waiting, hopefully we won't need to call upon them. The only ones on jobkeeper are about half the state based airline staff and a significant number of the tourism industry. Otherwise you would'nt know there's a crisis going on. It's really important to us to keep covid out here, we can't depend upon any other state for our essential services, nor can we access them. We are pretty much self contained. We produce everything we need locally To allow covid in would collapse our health system and most likely our essential services as well. we really don't want to end up like Victoria and possibly NSW as well.
The only thing we can't do is travel outside of our state, unless you want to mandatory quarantine at your own expense when you return. We can wait. It's not a big ask. when the quick test arrives we will review our position.
As long as you realize it cuts both ways... Its not just up to you.
Don't be surprised when YOU are ready to travel, that the option may not be open to you.
I'll vote for that.
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 03:17
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Originally Posted by Bend alot
QLD, SA and NT have pretty similar restrictions.

Tasmania are continuing "travel restrictions" until Dec 1.

Non-Tasmanian residents, who are not classified as Essential Travellers, are required to quarantine in government-designated accommodation.

https://coronavirus.tas.gov.au/trave...ng-to-tasmania

I think this is a summary of travel in Australia. But my be errors pretty hard to work out* If you live in WA you can travel without quarantine/isolation to every state and territory except Tasmania that requires quarantine on entry . But not return to WA.


* If you live in SA you can travel without quarantine/isolation to NT, QLD.

Quarantine/isolation on return from Victoria, NSW and ACT.

Quarantine on entry into Tasmania.


* If you live in NT travel without quarantine/isolation to SA, QLD, NSW (except greater Sydney) and ACT.

Quarantine on arrival to Tasmania and on return from Greater Sydney and Victoria.


* If you live in QLD travel without quarantine/isolation to SA and NT.

Quarantine on arrival to Tasmania and on return from NSW, ACT and Victoria.


* If you live in NSW travel without quarantine/isolation to ACT.

Quarantine on arrival to Tasmania, SA and QLD and on return from , ACT and Victoria.
We'll take anyone down here in Vic - no conditions attached!
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 03:27
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Originally Posted by LapSap
As long as you realize it cuts both ways... Its not just up to you.
Don't be surprised when YOU are ready to travel, that the option may not be open to you.
I'll vote for that.
I personally won't be travelling interstate for any reason before the borders are open, I understand and accept that. If I "MUST" travel interstate then I agree to accept those conditions and requirements expected of me and anyone else, both arriving in another state and upon my return. Is that what you meant.
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