All borders to reopen.

[SOPS]

239 new cases in NSW. Gladys really has to stop people moving around.And I mean stop them.

[Agent_86]

Originally Posted by SHVC

Also strong word over 200 will be announced for NSW today

239 with only 81 not active in the community during their infectious period....

[Ladloy]

Onya Gladys. Gold Standard!

[Green.Dot]

Sadly it’s a bit like watching the Titanic start to take on water.

A vaccine equals a life jacket right now. Grab one while you can!

[WingNut60]

Originally Posted by Agent_86

239 with only 81 not active in the community during their infectious period....

I wonder how many of those emanated from last weekends rally?
The timing is about right.

[PoppaJo]

Whilst it’s still a drop on the ocean compared to some other countries surging at the moment, it’s seems to be well seeded now that they will soon join those others in the 1000s.

Singapore was heading in the same direction as Sydney however they have now turned the corner and started the downward trend for the past week.

[SOPS]

Originally Posted by WingNut60

I wonder how many of those emanated from last weekends rally?
The timing is about right.

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That’s a good point.

[KRviator]

Originally Posted by WingNut60

I wonder how many of those emanated from last weekends rally?
The timing is about right.

True, though it'll be interesting to observe how many at the protest didn't get it, if any. ISTR the same was said about the Melbourne protest, yet very few, if any, cases were eventually traced back to it.

I'm wondering how many of these "out 'n' about while infectious" cases speak a language other than English at home....And in turn, whether they think the rules don't apply to them.

[SHVC]

Originally Posted by WingNut60

I wonder how many of those emanated from last weekends rally?
The timing is about right.

it has only been 5 days, wouldn't 10-14 be more likely a time frame to link Saturdays madness to cases?

[MickG0105]

Originally Posted by SHVC

it has only been 5 days, wouldn't 10-14 be more likely a time frame to link Saturdays madness to cases?

Exposure to positive PCR result for delta is 3-5 days, with the peak at nearly 4 days. Much faster than the earlier variants.

[WingNut60]

Is there no irony in attending a rally to protest whatever the hell they were protesting about and to then go and get tested?

[minigundiplomat]

Originally Posted by KRviator

I'm wondering how many of these "out 'n' about while infectious" cases speak a language other than English at home....And in turn, whether they think the rules don't apply to them.

I was about to debunk that by pointing out Melbourne’s Western suburbs faced the same language challenges during last years great Victorian ‘lockathon’ but then I seem to recall 40 of them gathered for a family dinner.

[SOPS]

Originally Posted by KRviator

True, though it'll be interesting to observe how many at the protest didn't get it, if any. ISTR the same was said about the Melbourne protest, yet very few, if any, cases were eventually traced back to it.

I'm wondering how many of these "out 'n' about while infectious" cases speak a language other than English at home....And in turn, whether they think the rules don't apply to them.

I have been wondering the same thing. I bet there are quite a few who think the rules don’t apply to them…. They only listen to a higher authority.

[SHVC]

I very much doubt anyone who attended on Saturday would of been tested.

[Foxxster]

Originally Posted by KRviator

As of this morning the UK has 88.1% of all adults with their first vaccination and 71.1% have had both - but they opened up with (I think) 80 & 66%-ish. Source

I would be very surprised to see Australia, not just NSW, get close to 80% in any reasonable timeframe, both due to vaccine hesitancy and Scotty's mishandling of the rollout.

Ah ha. Well I guess it does depend on what measure is used. It makes sense to only use the adult population as these vaccines haven’t yet been approved for children, although I think Pfizer had been approved for 12 up now here and also just approved in the uk for 12+. Not sure about other countries. But then again children are obviously part of the population so we really need both measures but be clear as to what is being used. I hope Gladys was talking about the adult population.


Lockdowns are set to be become "a thing of the past" with Australia on track to have a high percentage of the population vaccinated by Christmas, Scott Morrison has said.

The Prime Minister said with the nation now administering more than one million COVID-19 vaccine doses a week, he believes by the end of the year "everyone who has had the opportunity for a vaccine will have had it".

"I would expect by Christmas that we would be seeing a very different Australia to what we are seeing now," Mr Morrison said on Wednesday.

"What we are seeing overseas is once countries reach that much higher vaccination rate, that gives their governments a lot more options in the suppression limitations they have to use to deal with the virus.

"Lockdowns become a thing of the past when you are at that level.

[MickG0105]

Originally Posted by SHVC

I very much doubt anyone who attended on Saturday would of been tested.

If they were getting crook enough, they may not have had a choice.

[Torukmacto]

Like the mother of the 2 removalists many will avoid doing anything . Too scared to get taken away from their family and communities . Especially minorities with language barriers . Goverments all around the world are dealing with this issue .

[Lead Balloon]

Originally Posted by MickG0105

$450 billion, $600 billion - call it $525 as an estimate with ±15 percent error bars. Is the spend more than the value of statistical life figure? Yes, most assuredly. Is it 'orders of magnitude higher'? No, most assuredly not.
<snip>.

I've not used the phrase "orders of magnitude higher". And so what if the spend is not of that magnitude?

You're supposed to be a numbers and facts person. The fact is that, on your numbers, the ever-increasing costs of the response are already greater than the statistical costs of the estimated lives saved. Leave the value judgment as to what to do or not to do about that to others.

[Angle of Attack]

I saw a good article the other day were an epidemiologist likened the Vaccine hesitancy, snobbery against AZ as,

”It’s like a Captain has announced the plane is going to crash into the water, and some of the passengers are arguing over what brand of life jacket they will fit”

I thought it was a good analogy anyway…..

[SOPS]

And what were we saying about protesters and Covid Tests……..???????


https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw...2c65e28e223cf0